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Can't fight back bug....

Elvent
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I'm getting annoyed with this bug and some people say it's lag or some people say it's a stun...I can move around but I can't cast any spells, I can't do anything besides drink a health potion.

To prove it's not lag I can drink a health potion and it's instant and my health is back up. Can it really be a stun? It can last until I die, one "stun" went on for an entire MINUTE, there's no way that can be a stun.

Something is wrong here and it's getting annoying, I asked people in chat and some other people have experienced this, has anybody here?
  • TuterKing
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    Are the enemies also moving or is it just you? If its just you you are lagging most likely. I would maybe see if bumping down your graphics will make this stop, if it doesn't it is most likely a bug or just the sever is being a bit overwhelmed.

    Also that is not the stun. If your stun you wouldn't be able to move and it normally only lasts like a few seconds not minutes.
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  • Elvent
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    TuterKing wrote: »
    Are the enemies also moving or is it just you? If its just you you are lagging most likely. I would maybe see if bumping down your graphics will make this stop, if it doesn't it is most likely a bug or just the sever is being a bit overwhelmed.

    Also that is not the stun. If your stun you wouldn't be able to move and it normally only lasts like a few seconds not minutes.

    We're both moving, they slowly take down my health and I'll try to run away and they'll follow. They'll place an AoE and if I avoid the red on the ground I won't take the extra damage but if I do I do take the extra damage. I can use my roll just fine to avoid the red on the ground.

    I can release my spirit when I die instantly without a second of lag and I can resurrect instantly without a second of lag. I just don't see how this can happen the same way every time.

    But I can never fight back the entire time...I either have to try to run away and get out of combat or just stay there and die, I can't run away all the time because they put slows on me.

    I don't know but something doesn't seem right.
    Edited by Elvent on April 4, 2014 6:22AM
  • Loxy37
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    Only way I have found to remedy it is to use /reloadui. Its happened to me a few times.
  • Elvent
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    Loxy37 wrote: »
    Only way I have found to remedy it is to use /reloadui. Its happened to me a few times.

    Thanks, I will try this next time it happens...hopefully it is a bug and zenimax can fix it.

  • TuterKing
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    Ya that is a bug then, I'm sure it will be fixed eventually. You should also maybe report it when it happens next.
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  • lolage
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    Can confirm, had this happen a few times and if I stay alive long enough, after mindlessly slamming keys in a panic it "fixes" itself. always irritating though, hopefully someone can narrow the circumstances down.
  • Elvent
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    Yup just happened again and /reloadui fixed it...
  • FlameStar
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    I get this happen to me every now and again. But after I die it doesn't happen again for a lil while. Still annoying though.
  • Elvent
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    Still not fixed.
  • Sarenia
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    Does it happen when using specific skills?
    Against specific enemies?
    In a specific area?

    Details like this will help them fix the issue. Be extremely explicit in your support ticket. The more information developers can reference, the faster they can find the cause.
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  • HairOnFire
    I have this bug too. It helps when I press ESC (and go back into game with ESC again). But yeah thats annoying and pops up randomly in fights.
  • Kalashnik
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    HairOnFire wrote: »
    I have this bug too. It helps when I press ESC (and go back into game with ESC again). But yeah thats annoying and pops up randomly in fights.

    As he said double tap ESC helps me too..
  • Elvent
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    Sarenia wrote: »
    Does it happen when using specific skills?
    Against specific enemies?
    In a specific area?

    Details like this will help them fix the issue. Be extremely explicit in your support ticket. The more information developers can reference, the faster they can find the cause.

    No idea...it just randomly happens whenever I'm fighting, not all the time but has happened quite a bit recently.

    All I can say is I can't do anything besides rolling, drinking a health potion, or try to run away and get out of combat otherwise I can spam every attack and none do anything and just sit there and die, most times I can't get away because they put slows on me.

    Edited by Elvent on April 7, 2014 1:05AM
  • threesnap
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    Yea it has to be a bug, originally like you I was thinking it was lag. But the last time It happened to me. There were other people that came up and killed the monster that I couldn't attack. So it's diffidently not lag. It might have something to do with un-mounting, as it seams to happen after un-mounting and initiating combat.
  • Elvent
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    threesnap wrote: »
    Yea it has to be a bug, originally like you I was thinking it was lag. But the last time It happened to me. There were other people that came up and killed the monster that I couldn't attack. So it's diffidently not lag. It might have something to do with un-mounting, as it seams to happen after un-mounting and initiating combat.

    I don't know, I was in the ship yard where the enemys are working on ship repairs in the Alik'r Desert and I have been there for about 15 minutes without mounting at all and it just happened while I was fighting against 3 mobs and of course I died because I did not have enough time to /reloadui

    It can't be lag because everything else works in an instant, potions, chat, roll, /stuck, everything, it's just not possible to swing or cast. I hope zenimax will know this is a bug and isn't just some lag that only affects combat and nothing else...
    Edited by Elvent on April 7, 2014 1:13AM
  • jeremylthb14_ESO
    From what I have noticed, this seems to be most often caused by interrupting a channeled cast by blocking. It will prevent you from attacking, blocking, or casting almost permanently. Quickest fix I've found is to tab out and back in, but I play in Maximized so that's fairly quick for me.
  • Elvent
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    From what I have noticed, this seems to be most often caused by interrupting a channeled cast by blocking. It will prevent you from attacking, blocking, or casting almost permanently. Quickest fix I've found is to tab out and back in, but I play in Maximized so that's fairly quick for me.

    Haven't tried the alt tabbing out, that sounds quicker than /reloadui so I will try that next time.

    I still think this needs to be fixed though, shouldn't have to use these workarounds for a bug like this, I hate dying because repairs cost so much...keep dying to this bug is getting annoying lol.

    Just hope zenimax knows about it, I wouldn't mind seeing them say something about it so I could stop worrying they'll just think it's our fault and it's lag.
  • Zilas
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    Whenever this happens to me I just press escape and then go back to combat, takes like 2sec to fix it, still annoying.
  • Elvent
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    Zilas wrote: »
    Whenever this happens to me I just press escape and then go back to combat, takes like 2sec to fix it, still annoying.

    This sounds quicker than alt tab...guess I will try escape next time it happens LOL, so many workarounds for this bug. But thanks for the info, I guess escape will be the quickest workaround.
  • slander36
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    Couple things to add to this (in case support/devs see this thread). Do you play with multiple monitors?

    I play with multiple monitors, but ESO only on the center screen, not spread across all. I've had this happen to me many times, but it seems to only be in PvP. I think it might be tied to the free-pointer they added back in, as pressing Enter twice to get the cursor to pop up and go away got me out of it the times I've had the problem (similar reasoning behind why Esc would work, I believe). I think it may be related to death as well, as it usually happens around the time I've been battle-ressed by someone else. It's definitely not lag related, and I think it's the UI more than the game. There may be some faulty logic after res and some other events which cause the game to register as free-pointer mode instead of in-game.
  • Natjur
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    Its a listed bug were the server thinks your in 'mouse mode' (combat keys disabled) but your local client does not. Hit the esc key twice fixes it and normally it only happens when there is server lag
    Edited by Natjur on April 7, 2014 2:59AM
  • Elvent
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    slander36 wrote: »
    Couple things to add to this (in case support/devs see this thread). Do you play with multiple monitors?

    I play with multiple monitors, but ESO only on the center screen, not spread across all. I've had this happen to me many times, but it seems to only be in PvP. I think it might be tied to the free-pointer they added back in, as pressing Enter twice to get the cursor to pop up and go away got me out of it the times I've had the problem (similar reasoning behind why Esc would work, I believe). I think it may be related to death as well, as it usually happens around the time I've been battle-ressed by someone else. It's definitely not lag related, and I think it's the UI more than the game. There may be some faulty logic after res and some other events which cause the game to register as free-pointer mode instead of in-game.

    I don't play with multiple monitors, I guess it's possible to be related to death but can't say because I have went a long time without dying or resurrecting anybody and it still happens :(
    Natjur wrote: »
    Its a listed bug were the server thinks your in 'mouse mod' (combat keys disabled) but your local client does not. Hit the esc key twice fixes it and normally it only happens when there is server lag

    I'm not sure what you mean, I'm not big into computers or mouse mods, I don't think I use a mouse mod, or do I? lol

    Yes it just happened again and I hit esc once and it went away, so since it's a listed bug that means Zenimax knows about it? Will there be a chance it can be fixed or is it on my side where it's impossible?

  • Natjur
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    Sorry, 'Mouse Mode' when you hit the menu and your mouse becomes 'free movement', so you can click on menus etc but can't use any skills. The server thinks that is what your doing, but your local PC/client is not in this mode. You know that its NOT what your doing, but the server thinks you are doing that. So yes, they know about it and yes they will fix it but for now, just hit esc twice when it happens until its fixed.
  • DFDelta
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    Happens very often to me, usually when combat is initiated while I'm in the inventory/skill screen/map or other menues.

    Can be fixed quickly by opening any menue and closing it again.


    Still annoying though.
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  • Elvent
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    Natjur wrote: »
    Sorry, 'Mouse Mode' when you hit the menu and your mouse becomes 'free movement', so you can click on menus etc but can't use any skills. The server thinks that is what your doing, but your local PC/client is not in this mode. You know that its NOT what your doing, but the server thinks you are doing that. So yes, they know about it and yes they will fix it but for now, just hit esc twice when it happens until its fixed.

    Thanks! :D

  • Duckfather
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    If this happens, just hit the full stop key twice. This puts you into mouse mode and then back out again and you can do this very quickly without having your character spin around like they do by pressing escape.

    This happens to me quiet a bit and this seems the fastest way to solve it :-)
  • Holmes
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    Attempting to log out solved this issue for me on more than one occasion.
  • Bansheedragon
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    I had something like this happen to me as well.
    Difference is that it is sometimes happens when I'm knocked off my horse by a mob.
    I can move around, and my character is on what looks kinda like a permanent defensive mode.
    I cant attack or defend, only move around.
  • fiachsidhe
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    It's been happening to me since the first day of early beta. What an annoying, and frustrating bug.
    I can't attack, can't use skills, I can only block. and the wonderful thing is, I move extra slow, ensuring that I die from ever is getting a free meal on me.

    I just now had a skeleton slowly chasing me as I tried to get away, until he just killed me because the leashing in this game is utterly broken as well.
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  • Pixie123
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    Loxy37 wrote: »
    Only way I have found to remedy it is to use /reloadui. Its happened to me a few times.

    Yep i have this semi often. /reloadui mid fight fixes it for me too ;)

    Edited by Pixie123 on April 11, 2014 6:47AM
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