Redguard Window Iron Lattice shines through structures

Lugaldu · January 15

Not sure if this was mentioned before, but the Redguard Window, Iron Lattice can ruin the mood in the house... when it shines through the floor down into the basement.

Meh, now it's ruining my pool area in Forgemaster Falls.

freespirit · January 15

It's so sad, such a pretty window but the reflection's can drive you nuts.

I think nearly all these type of windows in the game have the same issue.

I know the Vampiric Stained Glass does exactly the samr in Ebonheart Chateaux. When placed on the back wall opposite the entrance the reflections shine in the basement below, quite a feat through solid stone!! 😯

spartaxoxo · January 15

Is the light from this window always on or is it affected by the weather?

DragonRacer · January 15

Stained Glass of Lunar Phases antiquity window does the same. I put it in an upstairs room in Linchal Manor. You walk in and see that thing shining clear down onto the ground floor level flooring.

@spartaxoxo In my case, that window is affected by weather. Cloudy/rain makes it not shine through stone flooring to another floor level. However, upcoming March update has PTS patch notes saying windows will no longer be affected by weather so I guess it’ll shine 24/7 in the future.

spartaxoxo · January 15

Oh. That's disappointing since they are giving us a weather control. Ty for the information

Arunei · January 15

Lighting is always kind of bad in this game Housing-wise. It goes through walls and other solid objects like crazy. It doesn't make any sense and it's been like this ever since Housing was first introduced.

spartaxoxo · January 15

Arunei wrote: »

Lighting is always kind of bad in this game Housing-wise. It goes through walls and other solid objects like crazy. It doesn't make any sense and it's been like this ever since Housing was first introduced.

I believe based on old posts that this light bleeding issue happened around the stonethorn dlc. It hasn't been addressed or fixed since.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/377963/annoying-light-leaking-bug-light-going-through-walls

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/634197/why-do-lighting-effects-bleed

Fischblut wrote: »

It wasn't always like this, and I'm very sad to see that it wasn't fixed

Almost 3 years ago, during Stonethorn DLC PTS, something was silently done to lights in the whole game (and this includes housing). It ruined not only the look of environment, but also Worm Wizard personality and Shadow Rider Senche mount.

I thought that even original red light could be more subtle, but I love the fluffy sabre cat model anyway so I learned to love the light in it too:
vs
Ruined look, so nobody can admire the cute muzzle of this mount:

Originally, light source seems hidden inside something. In this case, the head of the mount:

vs
Nowadays, light source is proudly ignoring obstacles. Be it ground, wall or someone's body:

I didn't make photos of that personality from behind before the bug, but you can imagine that it wasn't shining through my character's back.

Bonfire's light source behind the wooden wall:

In original state, you can't see the awful glow of that bonfire even behind NPC's body, let alone behind the wooden wall:

Sorry, I don't have better picture cause I've never had any reason to take photo of the bonfire behind the wall... when it was working as intended

NPC's flaming staff inside the rock, very immersive:

Psijic portal behind the rock (ok, that is the only positive side of this bug, easy to see those portals ):

Wayshrine light source makes sure player can really see it, such a "mysterious" sight with a bright dot of light:

My full report on this bug with more pictures: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/561438/visual-bug-with-some-light-sources-6-months-and-still-not-fixed#latest

Personally, I lost hope that lights will be reverted to pre-Stonethorn state, but I will not forget how beautiful they used to look back then

SilverBride · January 15

Try turning the window around. I've done that with the Vampire window and it stopped it from shining into the room.

LalMirchi · January 15

SilverBride wrote: »

Try turning the window around. I've done that with the Vampire window and it stopped it from shining into the room.

Many thanks, gone into some houses and done that.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · January 15

Spin the window around to the other side and it won't shine through.

freespirit · January 15

Spinning it around can work when using windows in pre-built structures but only if the reflection doesn't find another area to shine on.

When building your own structures spinning it round does just change where the reflection shines, so not that helpful!!

NotaDaedraWorshipper · January 15

All player placed lights works like that in housing. Doesn't matter if it's a window with sun reflect effect or a lamp, they will shine through any material. They don't have shadows either.

The only lights that do are lights default to the house, such as sunlight.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

Lighting is always kind of bad in this game Housing-wise. It goes through walls and other solid objects like crazy. It doesn't make any sense and it's been like this ever since Housing was first introduced.

I believe based on old posts that this light bleeding issue happened around the stonethorn dlc. It hasn't been addressed or fixed since.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/377963/annoying-light-leaking-bug-light-going-through-walls

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/634197/why-do-lighting-effects-bleed

Fischblut wrote: »

It wasn't always like this, and I'm very sad to see that it wasn't fixed

Almost 3 years ago, during Stonethorn DLC PTS, something was silently done to lights in the whole game (and this includes housing). It ruined not only the look of environment, but also Worm Wizard personality and Shadow Rider Senche mount.

I thought that even original red light could be more subtle, but I love the fluffy sabre cat model anyway so I learned to love the light in it too:
vs
Ruined look, so nobody can admire the cute muzzle of this mount:

Originally, light source seems hidden inside something. In this case, the head of the mount:

vs
Nowadays, light source is proudly ignoring obstacles. Be it ground, wall or someone's body:

I didn't make photos of that personality from behind before the bug, but you can imagine that it wasn't shining through my character's back.

Bonfire's light source behind the wooden wall:

In original state, you can't see the awful glow of that bonfire even behind NPC's body, let alone behind the wooden wall:

Sorry, I don't have better picture cause I've never had any reason to take photo of the bonfire behind the wall... when it was working as intended

NPC's flaming staff inside the rock, very immersive:

Psijic portal behind the rock (ok, that is the only positive side of this bug, easy to see those portals ):

Wayshrine light source makes sure player can really see it, such a "mysterious" sight with a bright dot of light:

My full report on this bug with more pictures: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/561438/visual-bug-with-some-light-sources-6-months-and-still-not-fixed#latest

Personally, I lost hope that lights will be reverted to pre-Stonethorn state, but I will not forget how beautiful they used to look back then

Not related, this existed before this bug. It's the same "feature" that makes us able to place lights and such inside walls, floors etc and have them still shine through.

The bleeding light bug is annoying though, because it makes things worse and all lights in game, not just placed lights in houses.

spartaxoxo · January 15

freespirit wrote: »

Spinning it around can work when using windows in pre-built structures but only if the reflection doesn't find another area to shine on.

When building your own structures spinning it round does just change where the reflection shines, so not that helpful!!

Ah that's why this didn't work for me. Thanks for the information.

SilverBride · January 15

freespirit wrote: »

Spinning it around can work when using windows in pre-built structures but only if the reflection doesn't find another area to shine on.

When building your own structures spinning it round does just change where the reflection shines, so not that helpful!!

I didn't realize this. I've only built 2 structures from the ground up and only used windows in one of those, and I wanted them to shine inside.

Lugaldu · January 16

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Spin the window around to the other side and it won't shine through.

I thought about it after I had put the windows in place - it does "fix" the mood in the basement, but it also ruins the nice mood on the floor with the windows where the light shines so beautifully into the room. It's really a general problem with the light that will hopefully be fixed at some point.

davidtk · January 16

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Oh. That's disappointing since they are giving us a weather control. Ty for the information

It's always been that way, for all windows. At first I thought it was time-based. But it depends on the weather and if it's midnight. Because then the windows are turned off on any occasion. So it's good that we're getting a weather controller, because you can finally set up what you want properly.
So cloudy in almost all my houses