Daily Endeavors November 24

DocFrost72

"**Capture 1 Resource in Cyrodiil** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Complete 2 Black Sacraments** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Complete 2 Trials** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Craft 1 Death's Wind Item** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Place 4 Courtyard Furnishings** (15 Seals of Endeavor)

*Complete a maximum of 3*"

So, anyone else find the bolded ones a little extra for 15 Seals of Endeavor? I'll admit for some folks, 2 normal trials is a 10 minute adventure and I don't expect I'll have trouble getting my seals tomorrow. I just wonder at the (by my estimation) escalation of investment.

marcbf

Let's just say I won't be getting any seals today and leave it at that.

Ilumia

Wow, 2 trials with those options, they just know how to low-grade annoy their customers.

ChuckyPayne

I don't care about how many Seal of Endeavours I get for it. I complete the 3 easiest tasks every day and when I have enough I spend them.

They probably won't change this much, because you can exchange items from the store instead of real money.

In total, you earn ~ the same amount per month as if you were an ESO+ member, 1650 seals.

marcbf

ChuckyPayne wrote: »

I don't care about how many Seal of Endeavours I get for it. I complete the 3 easiest tasks every day and when I have enough I spend them.

They probably won't change this much, because you can exchange items from the store instead of real money.

In total, you earn ~ the same amount per month as if you were an ESO+ member, 1650 seals.

It's just that Seals are quite different from Crowns. They're more akin to Crown Gems in that you can get stuff from the crates, but that's it. You cannot spend your Seals on anything but crate items.

Hapexamendios

Guess I'll try to capture a resource.

vsrs_au

Looks like the value of endeavour seals is starting to match currencies in countries with hyperinflation. Are the endeavours this year actually chosen by humans? I'm beginning to think they're now chosen by an AI, because only an AI could make such odd choices.

SeaGtGruff

I couldn't do it on PC EU, since I didn't know about the endeavor until too late, but on PC NA I just accepted and performed a Black Sacrament before reset, but I won't turn it in until after reset. Then I'll see if that lets me do a second Black Sacrament for the endeavor.

Calastir

These should be weekly endeavors, not daily. And I don't have the time to do all today.

For the first time, I'll only be getting 2 out of 3.

colossalvoids

There's still a plenty of choice tbh, the issue is when there's not much of it. 2 of them are essentially "free" while the third one depends on what you find easier or enjoyable. The earlier you realise you don't enjoy doing 3/3 every single time the earlier you might get back to enjoying the game how it was before this aggressive FOMO.

Calastir

colossalvoids wrote: »

There's still a plenty of choice tbh, the issue is when there's not much of it. 2 of them are essentially "free" while the third one depends on what you find easier or enjoyable. The earlier you realise you don't enjoy doing 3/3 every single time the earlier you might get back to enjoying the game how it was before this aggressive FOMO.

It's not FOMO, it's that some things I want in the game can only be bought with seals of endeavor.

Frogmother

I logged in, read the daily endeavors, said "nope" and logged out.

MreeBiPolar

So endeavors are EXPLICITLY SAID to be something people do as part of their normal gameplay.

Here we have... 2 sacraments. Which are explicitly 1/day/character, NOT SHAREABLE unlike other dailies and require a significant storyline progression to unlock. This is ANYTHING but "normal gameplay"

@ZoS_Kevin -- this is most certainly another case where you need to hotswap an endeavor like it was done with "do 1 weekly".

LouisaB75

I saw that and was stunned. It is hard enough to get a trial group together for one trial, two is just ridiculous. I wonder if they are trying to keep the group finder active, but that is hit and miss for trials at the best of times.

I am going to be struggling to do anything other than the crafting and courtyard ones on my NA toon (where I only have one toon) unless I do some PvP, when I would rather be doing anything else.

On EU I suspect it will be the same, though I am in a PvP guild there so can at least try for three. But only one of my four toons on EU has unlocked the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild dailies so that is stuck too.

Lykeion

Lykeion wrote: »

ZOS is extending the time it takes to complete the endeavor, and it looks like for most of them they are just doubling the numbers without a thought. I don't want there to be a day when I need to complete 2 trials for 10 endeavor tokens

well here it comes...

Danikat

I've notice they often have more time consuming endeavours on the weekend. I guess they assume everyone is working Monday - Friday and has nothing better to do on the weekend.

For me it usually comes down to whether it's something I intended to do anyway or could do quickly in addition to what I want to do, and in this case it's neither. I'm not one of the people who can quickly blast through trials and I'm not interested in doing 2 in one day. I only have 1 character who can do black sacrements so that's not an option, and capturing resources in Cyrodiil is very hit or miss on how much time it takes and certainly not something I'd planned to do. That means it's one of the days I remind myself there's no bonus rewards for completing all 3 and 15 seals can't buy anything on it's own so it's not a big deal to skip it.

Admittedly it helps that since endeavours came in I've realised there's not that much in the crown crates I like (before then I never really looked because I wasn't going to get any of it anyway). So I don't feel any pressure to do them every day/week because I'm not going to use all the seals anyway.

Renato90085

only 2 black Sacraments so hard for me
other all can finished very quick than rnd

AcadianPaladin

*sigh* I ignore stuff is not not enjoyable so today is another 2/5 day.

Tranquilizer

Endeavours became more and more tedious over time. Because of that I decided not to buy any additional crowns anymore.

In the past years I bought 21k crowns extra every time they were going on sale, so usually 3 times a year. Now I'm just waiting for my eso plus crowns to pile up.

Being stingy goes both ways.

I_killed_Vivec

colossalvoids wrote: »

There's still a plenty of choice tbh, the issue is when there's not much of it. 2 of them are essentially "free" while the third one depends on what you find easier or enjoyable. The earlier you realise you don't enjoy doing 3/3 every single time the earlier you might get back to enjoying the game how it was before this aggressive FOMO.

And if being free of FOMO, by just deciding not to worry if you miss any endeavours, isn't enough of an incentive then consider the maths:

One endeavour for 15 seals.

Radiant Apex goes for 16, 000 seals.

Skipping one endeavour means you miss out on less than 0.01% of that gaudy mount.

To put it another way, saving for that radiant apex will take you the best part of a year. Missing out on all three dailies, or even a weekly, and it will still take you the best part of a year

Blood_again

I love the days when endeavors are being completed simply along with my planned activity.
While "2 trials" looks really harder than the rest, it is the only today's task that matches my plans.
I think 2 more will be Sacraments and furniture. Because sacraments are fun.

Really, the choice is not always about the difficulty. Sometimes the answer on "will I do it?" is rather "meh, I don't like it at the moment" just by mood.

Elsonso

DocFrost72 wrote: »

"**Capture 1 Resource in Cyrodiil** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Complete 2 Black Sacraments** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Complete 2 Trials** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Craft 1 Death's Wind Item** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Place 4 Courtyard Furnishings** (15 Seals of Endeavor)

*Complete a maximum of 3*"

So, anyone else find the bolded ones a little extra for 15 Seals of Endeavor? I'll admit for some folks, 2 normal trials is a 10 minute adventure and I don't expect I'll have trouble getting my seals tomorrow. I just wonder at the (by my estimation) escalation of investment.

Maybe they are feeling like Seals are too easy to come by, or maybe people have too many of them horded?

Syldras

Elsonso wrote: »

Maybe they are feeling like Seals are too easy to come by, or maybe people have too many of them horded?

I think someone just replaced all numbers with some slightly higher number, without even checking whether it makes sense, and that's it. Probably will continue like this as long as some people still participate.

dk_dunkirk

DocFrost72 wrote: »

"**Capture 1 Resource in Cyrodiil** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Complete 2 Black Sacraments** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Complete 2 Trials** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Craft 1 Death's Wind Item** (15 Seals of Endeavor)
**Place 4 Courtyard Furnishings** (15 Seals of Endeavor)

*Complete a maximum of 3*"

So, anyone else find the bolded ones a little extra for 15 Seals of Endeavor? I'll admit for some folks, 2 normal trials is a 10 minute adventure and I don't expect I'll have trouble getting my seals tomorrow. I just wonder at the (by my estimation) escalation of investment.

Yes, I'm sure that for the 100 or so people playing the game that can speed run a trial with 11 other similarly-geared, skilled, and minded people in just 5 minutes, they love this daily. For the other 99.99% of the player base, that's about a 2-hour task, and ZOS freaking knows it.

Elsonso

Syldras wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

Maybe they are feeling like Seals are too easy to come by, or maybe people have too many of them horded?

I think someone just replaced all numbers with some slightly higher number, without even checking whether it makes sense, and that's it. Probably will continue like this as long as some people still participate.

Cannot rule out "not intended", either.

TaSheen

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

*sigh* I ignore stuff is not not enjoyable so today is another 2/5 day.

This. No group stuff, no pvp, no DB or TG for me. Two of five is okay.... I'm sitting on 16k+ seals on all but two of my accounts, and there's just not been much I've wanted lately anyway.

[Actually, if I could play a crusade to wipe out the DB and TG, I would in a hot minute.]

LouisaB75

Well I made myself go to capture a resource in Cyrodiil to complete mine on one server, but would much rather have carried on doing event stuff.

AzuraFan

2/5 for me today. No biggie, but if this keeps up, another system will have jumped the shark.

tomofhyrule

These are disgusting today.

I love going for Endeavors, but ZOS does know that there are a lot of people who 1) have limited time, 2) are not into high-level content, and 3) are one-character wonders. These are specifically designed to exclude the vast majority of the playerbase.

We've also never had "complete 2 trials" before. Complete 1, sure, even though that seems demanding for a daily outside of the weekend. But 2 in one day? Ugh. And as people have mentioned every time we've got the "complete 2 heists" daily, those are things that specifically require multiple characters who have also gone through a decent amount of a DLC questline.

ZOS, never do something like this again, please.

Irhak

I believe the one who comed out with weekly on friday is same one that come out with those 2 endeavours...

celeste_lavie

Hi @ZoS_Kevin. For the daily endeavors today (Nov 24), how is one supposed to complete 2 black sacraments in one day? It only limits to one black sacrament per day.