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Kinda Surprised this board is not FILLED with Update 44 PVP makeover Chatter

  • StarOfElyon
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    Elsonso wrote: »

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    I do not even play PVP and I am excited to learn about the complete PVP Makeover that may be coming! I actually may try PVP if it's a really cool update!

    Go ZOS!!

    It isn't a "complete pvp makeover" as far as we know. The marketing materials (among other things) indicate it is battleground related. Many of us don't care for BGs, its the open world/ic style pvp that draws us to eso. After 6 years of receiving 0 content, for people like me, it is extremely disappointing to find out that they've focused their efforts into BGs rather than the incredible open world pvp systems they have.

    Who knows, maybe the rumors/marketing materials aren't accurate - but I doubt it.

    I suspect it's because Bgs runs well, no lag etc where as they struggle with the cyro side of things and adding new content there would add further pressure.

    IC shows you can have open world PvP without lag. You just need to split up the area into smaller instances so you don't have all the players focused in one spot.

    And have very few people play in it?

    Now that I think about it, I made fun of BGs being the least played game mode, but it might be IC

    I think TelVar is the boon and bane of IC. On the one hand, the opportunity to gain TelVar from other players is attractive to upper tier players. Conversely, the risk of losing them is a turnoff for lower tier players. It creates a predatory environment where skilled players constantly shake down less skilled players for their lunch money. :smile:

    The concept of IC is interesting, but I think TelVar is holding it back.

    No way man. It actually adds something to gain and lose which is cool. But the builds are so toxic and out of balance that it kills the fun of PVP.
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    If battlegrounds is the content, then my only interest will be if they do balancing of some sort otherwise to shake up the meta. I doubt mych will come. This year has been pretty light and less than ambitious
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    I honestly don't feel bad for people who complain about the que being so long when you have Blackreach available. That's what I do, if GH has a que, I go to Blackreach and have fun. Some even say to that "Well, it's dead/nothing is happening." Okay, but if everyone in the que for each alliance went to that campaign instead of just waiting in que then it'd be active. You can't complain about long ques when you have other options. That's like complaining about a restaurant having a long wait time but you have similar ones in the same plaza without one... it's weird.

    As for why some aren't hype over U44, and threads popping up here. Well, I can't speak for everyone but for me it's just I don't know what to be hype about. We have zero information beyond it's not Cyrodiil related. That is not a lot to be hype about. Sometimes silence about upcoming DLC or release helps and sometimes it hurts... for me not having more information hurts my interest.

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    Just speaking for myself, I have zero interest in PVP. I am firmly in the camp of being a PVE player and wanting that content. And given what little hype there has been, I don’t feel inspired to change that position. Now, I do want to see new pvp content because I know it’s important to many people who play, and has been a contentious topic for years. New battlegrounds are something, but they seem like minor content updates that don’t address the issues that Cyrodiil has had for 7 years.
  • moderatelyfatman
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    My heart is in Cyrodiil but I think ZOS could really make things more interesting. The current situation is:
    Gray Host - the busiest outside of US primetime I think in part to faction locking.
    Blackreach - good for levelling toons for factions outside your PvP main.

    The issue is Ravenwatch which is now simply more of the same. ZOS should have gone the opposite way:
    Kept Ravenwatch as no-proc, no-CP and then also got rid of the destructable bridges and even Volundrung.
    Why? Get rid of all the major causes of lag and then make the pop-cap in Ravenwatch x2 or x3 that of Gray Host and Blackreach. We can then have massive fights like back in the old days but with the upgraded servers which should work even better!
    Edited by moderatelyfatman on August 28, 2024 10:08AM
  • alternatelder
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    If one person heard "complete pvp makeover", how many others heard this, and how many did they tell? Now we're going to have so many people who somehow got overhyped, even more upset when they hear the actual news. I'm betting it was from a tuber.
  • Stafford197
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    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    I honestly don't feel bad for people who complain about the que being so long when you have Blackreach available. That's what I do, if GH has a que, I go to Blackreach and have fun. Some even say to that "Well, it's dead/nothing is happening." Okay, but if everyone in the que for each alliance went to that campaign instead of just waiting in que then it'd be active. You can't complain about long ques when you have other options. That's like complaining about a restaurant having a long wait time but you have similar ones in the same plaza without one... it's weird.

    As for why some aren't hype over U44, and threads popping up here. Well, I can't speak for everyone but for me it's just I don't know what to be hype about. We have zero information beyond it's not Cyrodiil related. That is not a lot to be hype about. Sometimes silence about upcoming DLC or release helps and sometimes it hurts... for me not having more information hurts my interest.

    In terms of U44 all we know is that it’ll be based around BGs. And if we dig deeper we already know all of the info on that as well. The more you know, the less hype U44 actually is.

    Game has zero real new content until 2025.
  • Elsonso
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    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    I honestly don't feel bad for people who complain about the que being so long when you have Blackreach available. That's what I do, if GH has a que, I go to Blackreach and have fun. Some even say to that "Well, it's dead/nothing is happening." Okay, but if everyone in the que for each alliance went to that campaign instead of just waiting in que then it'd be active. You can't complain about long ques when you have other options. That's like complaining about a restaurant having a long wait time but you have similar ones in the same plaza without one... it's weird.

    As for why some aren't hype over U44, and threads popping up here. Well, I can't speak for everyone but for me it's just I don't know what to be hype about. We have zero information beyond it's not Cyrodiil related. That is not a lot to be hype about. Sometimes silence about upcoming DLC or release helps and sometimes it hurts... for me not having more information hurts my interest.

    In terms of U44 all we know is that it’ll be based around BGs. And if we dig deeper we already know all of the info on that as well. The more you know, the less hype U44 actually is.

    This is actually telling. If there are leaks or data mining sources out there that get people excited, there will be hype and excitement, even if the studio has not released concrete information. Specific to ZOS and ESO, this hype will be largely elsewhere, due to forum rules, but if people are excited enough, it will spill over to here.

    On the other hand, if there are leaked or data mined sources of information and few are excited about it, whatever the studio is working on has failed before even being announced.

    As for what ZOS has said, I am not sure that the community is really looking for a "PVP-Related Feature". Those words sound very uninspiring. It isn't PVP, but related to PVP, and it is a Feature, which is generic and could be something big or something small.

    Not feeling the hype, and ZOS isn't helping. :smile:

    Anyway, if you search for HYPE about this PVP update, the first result is probably going to be this thread. :disappointed:
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  • Stafford197
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    I honestly don't feel bad for people who complain about the que being so long when you have Blackreach available. That's what I do, if GH has a que, I go to Blackreach and have fun. Some even say to that "Well, it's dead/nothing is happening." Okay, but if everyone in the que for each alliance went to that campaign instead of just waiting in que then it'd be active. You can't complain about long ques when you have other options. That's like complaining about a restaurant having a long wait time but you have similar ones in the same plaza without one... it's weird.

    As for why some aren't hype over U44, and threads popping up here. Well, I can't speak for everyone but for me it's just I don't know what to be hype about. We have zero information beyond it's not Cyrodiil related. That is not a lot to be hype about. Sometimes silence about upcoming DLC or release helps and sometimes it hurts... for me not having more information hurts my interest.

    In terms of U44 all we know is that it’ll be based around BGs. And if we dig deeper we already know all of the info on that as well. The more you know, the less hype U44 actually is.

    This is actually telling. If there are leaks or data mining sources out there that get people excited, there will be hype and excitement, even if the studio has not released concrete information. Specific to ZOS and ESO, this hype will be largely elsewhere, due to forum rules, but if people are excited enough, it will spill over to here.

    On the other hand, if there are leaked or data mined sources of information and few are excited about it, whatever the studio is working on has failed before even being announced.

    As for what ZOS has said, I am not sure that the community is really looking for a "PVP-Related Feature". Those words sound very uninspiring. It isn't PVP, but related to PVP, and it is a Feature, which is generic and could be something big or something small.

    Not feeling the hype, and ZOS isn't helping. :smile:

    Anyway, if you search for HYPE about this PVP update, the first result is probably going to be this thread. :disappointed:

    Exactly! And to be clear there have been many times in the past when content was leaked and it built up huge hype within the community. This time it’s totally failed to do so.

    But I think anyone who is honest with themselves understands 2024 is an underwhelming year for this game’s development. There’s only so many mistakes you can make before the game loses support. However, the fact this is an Elder Scrolls game means no amount of mistakes will cause this game to lose all of its players. Just is unfortunate because ESO used to have the potential to be massively more successful than this.
  • TheMajority
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    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    I honestly don't feel bad for people who complain about the que being so long when you have Blackreach available. That's what I do, if GH has a que, I go to Blackreach and have fun. Some even say to that "Well, it's dead/nothing is happening." Okay, but if everyone in the que for each alliance went to that campaign instead of just waiting in que then it'd be active. You can't complain about long ques when you have other options. That's like complaining about a restaurant having a long wait time but you have similar ones in the same plaza without one... it's weird.

    As for why some aren't hype over U44, and threads popping up here. Well, I can't speak for everyone but for me it's just I don't know what to be hype about. We have zero information beyond it's not Cyrodiil related. That is not a lot to be hype about. Sometimes silence about upcoming DLC or release helps and sometimes it hurts... for me not having more information hurts my interest.

    In terms of U44 all we know is that it’ll be based around BGs. And if we dig deeper we already know all of the info on that as well. The more you know, the less hype U44 actually is.

    Game has zero real new content until 2025.

    Let us be honest, do we really know if we get any true new content in 2025 or just more rehashed stuff?
    Time flies like an arrow- but fruit flies like a banana.

    Sorry for my English, I do not always have a translation tool available. Thank you for your patience with our conversation and working towards our mutual understanding of the topic.
  • Stafford197
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    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    I honestly don't feel bad for people who complain about the que being so long when you have Blackreach available. That's what I do, if GH has a que, I go to Blackreach and have fun. Some even say to that "Well, it's dead/nothing is happening." Okay, but if everyone in the que for each alliance went to that campaign instead of just waiting in que then it'd be active. You can't complain about long ques when you have other options. That's like complaining about a restaurant having a long wait time but you have similar ones in the same plaza without one... it's weird.

    As for why some aren't hype over U44, and threads popping up here. Well, I can't speak for everyone but for me it's just I don't know what to be hype about. We have zero information beyond it's not Cyrodiil related. That is not a lot to be hype about. Sometimes silence about upcoming DLC or release helps and sometimes it hurts... for me not having more information hurts my interest.

    In terms of U44 all we know is that it’ll be based around BGs. And if we dig deeper we already know all of the info on that as well. The more you know, the less hype U44 actually is.

    Game has zero real new content until 2025.

    Let us be honest, do we really know if we get any true new content in 2025 or just more rehashed stuff?

    It’s kind of 50-50.

    Their process tends to be to release a new chapter for Q2 of each year which includes a few new tilesets, like Skingrad style stuff, alongside as many old tilesets as they can reasonably reuse. Pretty sure the Blackwood chapter did this a lot with the Murkmire-Argonian themed stuff.

    Q1 or Q3 dungeon DLC usually purely reuses tile sets, enemies, and sometimes even mechanics. Although IMO reusing mechanics is okay, as long as fights make sense and still feel unique enough.

    Q4 zone dlc is usually just content that was cut away from the chapter in order to artificially have new DLC content for later, and so it totally resembles the chapter/has the same storyline.

    2024 is unique in that Q2 was essentially a mini-chapter, while Q3 and Q4 have no dlc. So in a way they didn’t reuse assets as much this time, sounds like they’re improving then right… 💀
    Edited by Stafford197 on August 28, 2024 3:30PM
  • SaffronCitrusflower
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    If it's not Cyrodiil related I don't care about it.

    The only way ZOS gets my respect back and more $ from me is if they fix Cyrodiil in the way they told us they would for the over 5 years they told us "they're working on it".

    Edited by SaffronCitrusflower on August 28, 2024 3:41PM
  • alternatelder
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    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    I honestly don't feel bad for people who complain about the que being so long when you have Blackreach available. That's what I do, if GH has a que, I go to Blackreach and have fun. Some even say to that "Well, it's dead/nothing is happening." Okay, but if everyone in the que for each alliance went to that campaign instead of just waiting in que then it'd be active. You can't complain about long ques when you have other options. That's like complaining about a restaurant having a long wait time but you have similar ones in the same plaza without one... it's weird.

    As for why some aren't hype over U44, and threads popping up here. Well, I can't speak for everyone but for me it's just I don't know what to be hype about. We have zero information beyond it's not Cyrodiil related. That is not a lot to be hype about. Sometimes silence about upcoming DLC or release helps and sometimes it hurts... for me not having more information hurts my interest.

    In terms of U44 all we know is that it’ll be based around BGs. And if we dig deeper we already know all of the info on that as well. The more you know, the less hype U44 actually is.

    Game has zero real new content until 2025.

    Let us be honest, do we really know if we get any true new content in 2025 or just more rehashed stuff?

    Q4 zone dlc is usually just content that was cut away from the chapter in order to artificially have new DLC content for later, and so it totally resembles the chapter/has the same storyline.

    It's not cut content, it's just a continuation of the story and a different location. 🙄🤔 It was better than we have now though. Stories used to stretch from Q1 through Q4.

    2024 is unique in that Q2 was essentially a mini-chapter, while Q3 and Q4 have no dlc. So in a way they didn’t reuse assets as much this time, sounds like they’re improving then right… 💀

    They did this in 2023, they announced they were switching it up ahead of time, and it was pretty much the same size as then other "small" chapters. 🤦

  • alternatelder
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    If it's not Cyrodiil related I don't care about it.

    The only way ZOS gets my respect back and more $ from me is if they fix Cyrodiil in the way they told us they would for the over 5 years they told us "they're working on it".

    I think that "we're working on it" was the failed server replacements. It actually made things worse. Performance is worse for me everywhere ,all the time now. Also, it's already been said over and over, they confirmed it's not Cyrodiil related.
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    Syiccal wrote: »
    React wrote: »
    I do not even play PVP and I am excited to learn about the complete PVP Makeover that may be coming! I actually may try PVP if it's a really cool update!

    Go ZOS!!

    It isn't a "complete pvp makeover" as far as we know. The marketing materials (among other things) indicate it is battleground related. Many of us don't care for BGs, its the open world/ic style pvp that draws us to eso. After 6 years of receiving 0 content, for people like me, it is extremely disappointing to find out that they've focused their efforts into BGs rather than the incredible open world pvp systems they have.

    Who knows, maybe the rumors/marketing materials aren't accurate - but I doubt it.

    I suspect it's because Bgs runs well, no lag etc where as they struggle with the cyro side of things and adding new content there would add further pressure.

    It's BG related because it's much easier, cheaper, less labor intensive, and requires much less imagination than actually doing something for Cyrodiil.
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    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    I honestly don't feel bad for people who complain about the que being so long when you have Blackreach available. That's what I do, if GH has a que, I go to Blackreach and have fun. Some even say to that "Well, it's dead/nothing is happening." Okay, but if everyone in the que for each alliance went to that campaign instead of just waiting in que then it'd be active. You can't complain about long ques when you have other options. That's like complaining about a restaurant having a long wait time but you have similar ones in the same plaza without one... it's weird.

    As for why some aren't hype over U44, and threads popping up here. Well, I can't speak for everyone but for me it's just I don't know what to be hype about. We have zero information beyond it's not Cyrodiil related. That is not a lot to be hype about. Sometimes silence about upcoming DLC or release helps and sometimes it hurts... for me not having more information hurts my interest.

    In terms of U44 all we know is that it’ll be based around BGs. And if we dig deeper we already know all of the info on that as well. The more you know, the less hype U44 actually is.

    Game has zero real new content until 2025.

    Let us be honest, do we really know if we get any true new content in 2025 or just more rehashed stuff?

    It’s kind of 50-50.

    Their process tends to be to release a new chapter for Q2 of each year which includes a few new tilesets, like Skingrad style stuff, alongside as many old tilesets as they can reasonably reuse. Pretty sure the Blackwood chapter did this a lot with the Murkmire-Argonian themed stuff.

    Q1 or Q3 dungeon DLC usually purely reuses tile sets, enemies, and sometimes even mechanics. Although IMO reusing mechanics is okay, as long as fights make sense and still feel unique enough.

    Q4 zone dlc is usually just content that was cut away from the chapter in order to artificially have new DLC content for later, and so it totally resembles the chapter/has the same storyline.

    2024 is unique in that Q2 was essentially a mini-chapter, while Q3 and Q4 have no dlc. So in a way they didn’t reuse assets as much this time, sounds like they’re improving then right… 💀

    I think they are going to do new content in 2025. The question is whether they continue on their development descent into 2025 or if they were so busy doing 2025 stuff that they had to scale back 2024 and 2025 will be a better year.

    I think they are going to continue on in the tradition of 2024 and give us less content, again. BUT... there will be content. I actually expect that the 2025 Chapter will feature more PVP stuff.

    Edited by Elsonso on August 28, 2024 4:20PM
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  • runa_gate
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    Aurielle wrote: »
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    Since it’s likely Battlegrounds-related, I really don’t care. BGs take way too long to launch, BGs often launch imbalanced (one team with 2-3 versus two full teams of four), I can’t select Deathmatch only and have to play modes I hate like Capture the Relic, and there is a rare BG-related bug that locks people out of their accounts until the next maintenance.

    I hate to be bitter, but maybe half the remaining PvP population getting locked out of ESO entirely the day that patch drops - with no hope of playing again until the next server maintenance two weeks later - would actually get the issue some attention.

    I'm still a week of waiting for someone to confirm if my toon is even safe to attempt logging into and zero about everything I missed in-game during my lockout. Pretty sure my follow-up emails to keep my ticket open are going into a spam folder.

    It's completely unacceptable that you're still locked out and still have no information regarding compensation. I can guarantee you that if this was a bug affecting PVEers queuing into dungeons, it would be a major priority that would be hotfixed ASAP.

    Oh, the good news was the server maintenance did unlock my account. Not that anyone in support said anything - this hope came from other players who had encountered this issue (who support did actually answer) and then played out when the servers came back up.

    But my remaining issue is the character who encountered the bug still shows that BG arena as his last location. I have asked for a week if he is safe to log into or not because I don’t want to get locked out again. No answer. Others who were locked out received compensation for time lost. Nobody is answering my question on that either. I’m not even asking for anything extra. I just want the daily login reward that is now locked for me and the 50 seals for closing an Oblivion Portal that everyone else had the chance to do while I was locked out.

    No response.

    But sure, let’s launch a big BG update. LOL

    Explicitly ask that your ticket be escalated to someone who can move the character before you log in. They absolutely can do that.


    Also, I wouldn't notice if BGs were removed, let alone more were added.

    In this particular case it appears to be a mount-related activity, possibly the jousting thing they were talking about forever ago.
  • Stafford197
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    I honestly don't feel bad for people who complain about the que being so long when you have Blackreach available. That's what I do, if GH has a que, I go to Blackreach and have fun. Some even say to that "Well, it's dead/nothing is happening." Okay, but if everyone in the que for each alliance went to that campaign instead of just waiting in que then it'd be active. You can't complain about long ques when you have other options. That's like complaining about a restaurant having a long wait time but you have similar ones in the same plaza without one... it's weird.

    As for why some aren't hype over U44, and threads popping up here. Well, I can't speak for everyone but for me it's just I don't know what to be hype about. We have zero information beyond it's not Cyrodiil related. That is not a lot to be hype about. Sometimes silence about upcoming DLC or release helps and sometimes it hurts... for me not having more information hurts my interest.

    In terms of U44 all we know is that it’ll be based around BGs. And if we dig deeper we already know all of the info on that as well. The more you know, the less hype U44 actually is.

    Game has zero real new content until 2025.

    Let us be honest, do we really know if we get any true new content in 2025 or just more rehashed stuff?

    It’s kind of 50-50.

    Their process tends to be to release a new chapter for Q2 of each year which includes a few new tilesets, like Skingrad style stuff, alongside as many old tilesets as they can reasonably reuse. Pretty sure the Blackwood chapter did this a lot with the Murkmire-Argonian themed stuff.

    Q1 or Q3 dungeon DLC usually purely reuses tile sets, enemies, and sometimes even mechanics. Although IMO reusing mechanics is okay, as long as fights make sense and still feel unique enough.

    Q4 zone dlc is usually just content that was cut away from the chapter in order to artificially have new DLC content for later, and so it totally resembles the chapter/has the same storyline.

    2024 is unique in that Q2 was essentially a mini-chapter, while Q3 and Q4 have no dlc. So in a way they didn’t reuse assets as much this time, sounds like they’re improving then right… 💀

    I think they are going to do new content in 2025. The question is whether they continue on their development descent into 2025 or if they were so busy doing 2025 stuff that they had to scale back 2024 and 2025 will be a better year.

    I think they are going to continue on in the tradition of 2024 and give us less content, again. BUT... there will be content. I actually expect that the 2025 Chapter will feature more PVP stuff.

    I agree, it’s much more likely we’ll see the descent continue. But of course I really do hope we’re proved wrong. The best outcome is that the 2025 chapter turns out amazing… I just have no faith in the team to carry out something like that anymore.

    The contrast in quality between a chapter like Morrowind and a chapter like Gold Road is absolutely enormous.
  • Sleep724
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    Maybe Zos should create a "new" zone. That being Cyrodill. Make it smaller, V shaped, updated graphics, create new objectives etc. Use the areas that are no longer being fought over for future dlc. Cast the "old" Cyrodill into the fire.

    There's so many ideas that Zos could implement to improve their game and keep the open world PVP fresh. But after years of no changes or improvements, anything the players suggest or hope for seems to fall on deaf ears.
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    Sleep724 wrote: »
    Maybe Zos should create a "new" zone. That being Cyrodill. Make it smaller, V shaped, updated graphics, create new objectives etc. Use the areas that are no longer being fought over for future dlc. Cast the "old" Cyrodill into the fire.

    There's so many ideas that Zos could implement to improve their game and keep the open world PVP fresh. But after years of no changes or improvements, anything the players suggest or hope for seems to fall on deaf ears.

    my understanding of cyrodiil is that the devs have tried (at least internally) adding new things, or changing things

    but almost every time they do, it seems to make cyro more unstable and susceptible to performance issues

    i think they are trying to do more for cyro, but we likely arent seeing much of that because of all the problems that the zone already has

    i dont know if it would be possible for them to fully overhaul the zone from the ground up without it being some massive undertaking

    i understand its frustrating from a player perspective when there isnt really any visible progress or updates on it, but i do believe that they are trying to work on and improve it
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    Cyrodiil reached the point of no return ages ago. All those players that left are not coming back.

    There's no incentive for them to spend time on a low population zone. Ironically made low population due to their own decisions.
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    Unless they can let us raise from BattleGrounds deaths in less than 10s, it's just SSDD and not worth it.
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  • MidniteOwl1913
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    Battlegrounds are a miserable experience. Mostly it's full of well-practiced coordinated groups and their fodder. Being fodder is no fun at all. Being stuck in a 3 group is just adding insult to injury.

    If there was a way to separate the pre-made groups and the solos it would help.

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    Based on what they just released for the major Housing update, Update 44 is likely something no serious PvP player has been asking for. For example some new weird mode for Battlegrounds or something like that instead of actually tackling the long standing problems in Cyrodiil PvP.

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    Glad to see some Buzz!! I am excited for once about PVP and Hope ZOS Delivers!
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    After the long drought and constant avoidance of doing anything PvP related, I am just prepared to be disappointed, but happy to be wrong.
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    Update 44 is likely something no serious PvP player has been asking for.

    Disagree. Based on the information out there, we've 100% been asking for changes related to what's coming in Update 44. Also, there are many serious PvPers who play 4-6 hours/day or more and only content related to Update 44.

    Edited by SkaraMinoc on August 29, 2024 7:29AM
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    SkaraMinoc wrote: »
    Update 44 is likely something no serious PvP player has been asking for.

    Disagree. Based on the information out there, we've 100% been asking for changes related to what's coming in Update 44. Also, there are many serious PvPers who play 4-6 hours/day or more and only content related to Update 44.
    I don’t believe there are many players in this game who are playing 4-6 hours/day of BGs….that sounds miserable.

    On top of that, once the novelty of the new BGs content wears off, the small dedicated BGs playerbase will be split up into twice as many queueable game modes. It may end up even worse than before.


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    SkaraMinoc wrote: »
    Update 44 is likely something no serious PvP player has been asking for.

    Disagree. Based on the information out there, we've 100% been asking for changes related to what's coming in Update 44. Also, there are many serious PvPers who play 4-6 hours/day or more and only content related to Update 44.

    True. There are countless of players who can't wait to find out what it is they have actually been asking for!
    Please stop making requests for game features. ZOS have enough bad ideas as it is!
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