Is emoting on a dead player against ToS?

StaticWave

As titled, is it against ToS? @ZOS_GinaBruno

BlackRaidho

They don't even answer about cheaters / exploiters with evidences so, don't expect much for something that insignificant.

wolfie1.0.

StaticWave wrote: »

As titled, is it against ToS? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Review the sections in the code of conduct regarding targeted harrassment and assume that a reasonable human will look at your actions and the context around what you did and arbitrarily had to decide if you crossed a line, then assume a safe margin of error.

That's probably as close as you will get since they said it's a case by case situation. Sometimes, the best way to avoid crossing, or even being pushed across, a line is to stay very very far from it.

And sometimes I should listen to my own advice.

LaintalAy

Stop invoking Gina.
She's left the building.

Read the TOS yourself and work it out.
If it harasses someone and they ask you to stop; and you don't stop, then the answer is yes.

Otherwise, why would they give them (the emotes) to you?

Maitsukas

If it's about teabagging, then this is how I have understood it:

• If you are getting teabagged by someone and ask them to stop, and they do listen, then it appears to be okay.
• If it is someone that does it repeatedly to you (even after asking them to stop), then you should be free to report it.

I personally have been on the receiving end a few times, and honestly, I barely pay attention to who does it, since everything happens too fast around me to notice names.

JiubLeRepenti

Personally it always made me laugh to see smbdy Tbagging me while I'm dead

It's just an emote in a video game guys, chill.

StaticWave

LaintalAy wrote: »

Stop invoking Gina.
She's left the building.

Read the TOS yourself and work it out.
If it harasses someone and they ask you to stop; and you don't stop, then the answer is yes.

Otherwise, why would they give them (the emotes) to you?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

DenverRalphy

Seriously? This topic again?

Clicky and scrolly to the last post for your answer...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/662651/teabagging

NoticeMeArkay

StaticWave wrote: »

As titled, is it against ToS? @ZOS_GinaBruno

You can just read the ToS you know. It's openly accessible.

StaticWave

I just made this thread because someone said he would report me for emoting on his dead body. I don’t actually care about being tbagged or not lol

sarahthes

StaticWave wrote: »

LaintalAy wrote: »

Stop invoking Gina.
She's left the building.

Read the TOS yourself and work it out.
If it harasses someone and they ask you to stop; and you don't stop, then the answer is yes.

Otherwise, why would they give them (the emotes) to you?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Why are you pinging the content creator manager? Gina is no longer the community manager.

Yudo

Use common sense and do not target anyone, stop if asked. Topic has been discussed recently as pointed out.
I once had someone using an emote digging with a shovel on my body and I thought it was hilarious.
I specifically remember this taunt on stores some time ago. Too bad they often don't work due to in combat.

Taunt your contemptible opponent by kicking some dirt at them.

Orbital78

They have already answered this. If someone asks you to stop try to avoid doing it. Pvp is kind of hard since many go offline to avoid being targeted or getting childish messages. But if you see or are able to ask someone to stop, just stop. People can also take it less seriously, it is mmo pvp after all. If you really feel harassed and targeted you need to provide video evidence of them being messaged and continued harassment.

Orbital78

StaticWave wrote: »

I just made this thread because someone said he would report me for emoting on his dead body. I don’t actually care about being tbagged or not lol

People say silly things all the time, if he asked you to stop and you saw it. Just try to avoid harassing that person if possible.

Grizzbeorn

sarahthes wrote: »

StaticWave wrote: »

LaintalAy wrote: »

Stop invoking Gina.
She's left the building.

Read the TOS yourself and work it out.
If it harasses someone and they ask you to stop; and you don't stop, then the answer is yes.

Otherwise, why would they give them (the emotes) to you?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Why are you pinging the content creator manager? Gina is no longer the community manager.

valenwood_vegan

sarahthes wrote: »

Why are you pinging the content creator manager? Gina is no longer the community manager.

Just to be fair, I'm not sure they announced this on the forums at ALL? I think I saw it on Twitter or something. But it could be easy for someone to miss. (Also 'grats Gina if you happen to show up here :P )

StaticWave

sarahthes wrote: »

StaticWave wrote: »

LaintalAy wrote: »

Stop invoking Gina.
She's left the building.

Read the TOS yourself and work it out.
If it harasses someone and they ask you to stop; and you don't stop, then the answer is yes.

Otherwise, why would they give them (the emotes) to you?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Why are you pinging the content creator manager? Gina is no longer the community manager.

Because I didn’t know she’s no longer the community manager? Cmon lol what kind of question is that.

darvaria

This topic keeps appearing lately. I don't recall ever seeing it so much.

IF you are reported for it, you are NOT guaranteed of the outcome.

SOLUTION: Don't do it. WHY risk for a pointless and childish gesture.

From a corporate legal view, I can see where this might cause complications so I would NOT push this. It offers no reward and is pointless. DON"T DO IT. Goes back to the old adage, if you have to ask, the answer is usually NO.

Orbital78

darvaria wrote: »

SOLUTION: Don't do it. WHY risk for a pointless and childish gesture.

It is part of pvp culture, as long as I can remember. The past 10 years or so people have started to get so sensitive and have the victim mind set. Personally I only bothered to do emotes when it was an obvious try hard because they take it way too seriously and it isn't meant to be malicious or harassment. If you feel that hurt without being directly contacted and harassed in messages, perhaps it is time to go outside, take a break, and touch grass.

darvaria

I NEVER do anything but don't have a problem with others. But with the tattle tale culture that seems to be pretty strong in the game now days, I just advise ppl not to do it. My PVP guilds have agreed it's too risky now days.

And consider, we are in a more "woke" society than we were 10 years ago. What was acceptable then, maybe not so much now.

SilverBride

Every second a player is teabagging another player is a second they aren't out there killing more enemies.

SteveCampsOut

It's stupid, and childish and just reflects on you so ask yourself, Do I want to look like this?

Jaraal

StaticWave wrote: »

sarahthes wrote: »

StaticWave wrote: »

LaintalAy wrote: »

Stop invoking Gina.
She's left the building.

Read the TOS yourself and work it out.
If it harasses someone and they ask you to stop; and you don't stop, then the answer is yes.

Otherwise, why would they give them (the emotes) to you?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Why are you pinging the content creator manager? Gina is no longer the community manager.

Because I didn’t know she’s no longer the community manager? Cmon lol what kind of question is that.

https://twitter.com/GinaLBruno/status/1814433503779356705

SilverBride wrote: »

Every second a player is teabagging another player is a second they aren't out there killing more enemies.

Yes, there is nothing funnier in PvP than watching someone get ganked while they are wasting time teabagging. And it happens a lot!

Vaqual

LaintalAy wrote: »

Stop invoking Gina.
She's left the building.

Read the TOS yourself and work it out.
If it harasses someone and they ask you to stop; and you don't stop, then the answer is yes.

Otherwise, why would they give them (the emotes) to you?

The ToS are formulated poorly, there is little point in trying to base your behaviour according to them. I had an exchange with customer service that lasted for 4-5 mails, where I just asked them about the correct interpretation of their "baiting" rule. I know as much as I did before.

In the end it is down to the mood of the GM/Mod that handles your report and the best thing you can do is not interacting with others. That should be mostly safe.
10/10 MMO experience.

GuuMoonRyoung

Here is my advice, don't expect people to have thicker skin these days. Everybody wants to be a victim these days, so just lay off the emotes on a dead pixel you just killed. And if you are the person being "emoted" after being "killed" and feels hurt, I don't want to be condescending but one thing helped me when I first experienced this 14 years ago and felt really offended, meditation.

kyle.wilson

StaticWave wrote: »

I just made this thread because someone said he would report me for emoting on his dead body. I don’t actually care about being tbagged or not lol

If you have been told to stop and don't then you can be perm-banned.
But, ZOS requires video evidence

bmnoble

Will never understand why people stay dead and not revive, it's one thing if the fight is ongoing and you have a chance of being revived by another player but if the other side is all just standing around instead of hunting down straggler it should be crystal clear your side got wiped out, revive at the nearest keep and move on.

EdjeSwift

bmnoble wrote: »

Will never understand why people stay dead and not revive, it's one thing if the fight is ongoing and you have a chance of being revived by another player but if the other side is all just standing around instead of hunting down straggler it should be crystal clear your side got wiped out, revive at the nearest keep and move on.

I have plenty of reasons to do this.

Laundry.
Phone call.
Alt-Tabbed.
Forum posting.
Cleaning my desk.
Psychological warfare.
Cleaning out my closet.
Organizing my downloads.
Contemplating meaning of life.
Watching tears ricochet on a guitar.

SteveCampsOut

EdjeSwift wrote: »

bmnoble wrote: »

Will never understand why people stay dead and not revive, it's one thing if the fight is ongoing and you have a chance of being revived by another player but if the other side is all just standing around instead of hunting down straggler it should be crystal clear your side got wiped out, revive at the nearest keep and move on.

I have plenty of reasons to do this.

Laundry.
Phone call.
Alt-Tabbed.
Forum posting.
Cleaning my desk.
Psychological warfare.
Cleaning out my closet.
Organizing my downloads.
Contemplating meaning of life.
Watching tears ricochet on a guitar.

Don't forget:

Went to Pee
Went to Eat
Went to get a drink.
Rinse Repeat!

spartaxoxo

bmnoble wrote: »

Will never understand why people stay dead and not revive, it's one thing if the fight is ongoing and you have a chance of being revived by another player but if the other side is all just standing around instead of hunting down straggler it should be crystal clear your side got wiped out, revive at the nearest keep and move on.

I'm probably talking to someone and don't actually care.

SilverBride

I release immediately when doing battleground, but it doesn't actually release me for several seconds.