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Let’s rename dragon knight
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Soarora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Dragons want to enslave all people? I think Paarthurnax might disagree with that.
Well, I mean, he does also inherently want to, he makes the effort to not fall back into his nature.
"Dov wahlaan fah rel. We were made to dominate. The will to power is in our blood. You feel it in yourself, do you not? I can be trusted. I know this. But they do not. Onikaan ni ov dovah. It is always wise to mistrust a dovah. I have overcome my nature only through meditation and long study of the Way of the Voice. No day goes by where I am not tempted to return to my inborn nature. Zin krif horvut se suleyk. What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Paarthurnax_(dragon)PC/NA Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS/Heal), Trialist (DPS/Tank/Heal), and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore- CP 2000+
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✭✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »I think "Dragon Knight" exists in the game because it sounded cool, especially to Skyrim players.
Battlemage would have been a better choice, as that is really what they are.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragonknights
Yes, and they should have been Battlemages, not Dragonknights.
In ESO lore, Battlemage is more a Position/Rank/Mark-of-Authority. Pretty much any class can become, or aspire to be awarded the title of, a Battlemage.
It's an Elder Scrolls class, just like Nightblade and Sorcerer.2 -
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Semantics. It depends on your definition of "want". My interpretation is that he's tempted to dominate, but doesn't want to, hence my previous post.Dragons want to enslave all people? I think Paarthurnax might disagree with that.
Well, I mean, he does also inherently want to, he makes the effort to not fall back into his nature.
"Dov wahlaan fah rel. We were made to dominate. The will to power is in our blood. You feel it in yourself, do you not? I can be trusted. I know this. But they do not. Onikaan ni ov dovah. It is always wise to mistrust a dovah. I have overcome my nature only through meditation and long study of the Way of the Voice. No day goes by where I am not tempted to return to my inborn nature. Zin krif horvut se suleyk. What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Paarthurnax_(dragon)PC(Steam) / EU / play from Melbourne, Australia / avg ping 3903 -
We should name it the "salesman" class.
"DOTs? We're the meta class for it!"
"Tanking? Couldn't be better!"
"Healing? ... who needs healing if everyone's a DK!"
*slaps hood* This baby can reduce damage to only 3% of its max health while applying execute-scaling poison DOTs at max DD builds.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭karthrag_inak wrote: »No
That's a weird name for a class. I think I prefer Dragon Knight
DenverRalphy wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »I think "Dragon Knight" exists in the game because it sounded cool, especially to Skyrim players.
Battlemage would have been a better choice, as that is really what they are.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragonknights
Yes, and they should have been Battlemages, not Dragonknights.
In ESO lore, Battlemage is more a Position/Rank/Mark-of-Authority. Pretty much any class can become, or aspire to be awarded the title of, a Battlemage.
It's an Elder Scrolls class, just like Nightblade and Sorcerer.
Not to be confused with The Imperial Battlemage, which is a synonyme for the High Chancellor, the advisor of the current Emperor (such as Abnur Tharn, Zurin Arctus, Ria Silmane and Ocato).@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
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✭✭✭I mean if we are going to go about the choice of class names and how they dont fit their set up.
Sorcerers are technically summoners
Night Blades aren't really night blades and should be shadow or soul blades
Templars imply a religious order of knights and they technically aren't that. Instead they should be called Knight Lights
Wardens should be called Frost Druids
Necromancers should be called Bone Mages
and Arcanists should be called The Evil Librarians
and Dragon Knights should just call a doctor.2 -
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✭✭✭Class skills have dragon type effects and names, flame breath, talons, scales, etc. - the current name seems fine to me.
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✭✭✭If I remember right, the term Dragon Knights date back to the Akaviri Invasion and the dragon guard that protected Remen Cyrodil.
The training the Akaviri gave was later referred to as Dragon Knights as the last of the Akaviri faded out in late 1st era, so calling them Dragon Knights is in line with TES Lore.
Just my 2 septims... Huzzah!Edited by wenchmore420b14_ESO on July 23, 2024 7:34AMDrakon Koryn~Oryndill, Rogue~Mage,- CP ~Doesn't matter any more
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JinKC98✭✭I name my Dragonknight "Blade of Paarthurnax" actually and I don't think Dragons are necessarily evil. Plus majority of DK move sets do emulate Dragons' move sets, so the class name is alright.
Seriously though I'm not bothered by the facts that certain Dragons were trying hard to enslave men and mer. Just a natural state of things, if not Dragons, there will be Daedras, Vampires, etc. Plus there are cool dragon buddies throughout Elder Scrolls franchise, like Paarthurnax and Nahfahlaar. Not to Akatosh is the Dragon God of Time in most of Tamriel's religion.1 -
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✭I think Dragonknight is fine, and arguing naming conventions according to lore is silly.
I also think Hot Cheeto would be an appropriate class name, so take the above as you will.- Tybalt Kaine Khajiit Nightblade Aldmeri Dominion
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- "I drain the blood of our enemies and fire it into you. It's a lot less messy than it sounds, and yeah I'm basically a Vampire without the whole AGH FIRE BAD"
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Blood_again✭✭✭✭✭You can rename your DK the way you want. Token will help you.
My DKs will save their names. Keep your hands off them please.1 -
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✭"Knight-of-gigantic-leather-skinned-creatures-that-may-or-may-not-resemble-a-mythic-entity-commonly-known-as-wyvern". Because they aren't dragons. Dragons have four legs plus their wings.
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(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Burn/Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Heal- Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Inferno/Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Rage of the Ursauk jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Crushing Shock/Storm Pulsar, Streak, Flame/Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Fire/Storms, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build) and Fiery/Thunderous Rage.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Mother Ciannait's (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Max Mag Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), CP restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and CP ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact for regular and NoCP build/Oblivion's Foe for dot build (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable. Max Mag Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Max Mag Enchants). Knight Slayer/Pariah jewelry/Plaguebreak for dot build (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant for regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build. Sharpened for dot build)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Empowered Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that only utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (Infused/shock enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on head and everything else Magicka Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Max Health Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant/Stealth-Draining Poison IX), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1:Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver (Shatter Soul).
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Lover for penetration when playing a sorc or temp.
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Thaumaturge, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvE Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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ClowdyAllDay✭✭✭✭"Knight-of-gigantic-leather-skinned-creatures-that-may-or-may-not-resemble-a-mythic-entity-commonly-known-as-wyvern". Because they aren't dragons. Dragons have four legs plus their wings.
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!!
ding ding ding. this right here. the so-called dragons in eso lore are really wyverns. So the correct name would be Wyvern Knights since they arent even dragons!
So relieved someone finally brought that up!0 -
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✭✭✭ClowdyAllDay wrote: »Why in that case have a class emulating their nonsense?
I think your thread is nonsense.
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TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Whether it's right on not (dragon vs wyvern), that's not the point - the point is that the original gaming group that invented this game and world chose to call them dragons. We're a quarter century into this world.... no reason to change it now.______________________________________________________
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