(Poll) Request for more Inventory Space!

SilverBride · July 19

No, my available inventory space is enough.

I've played many MMOs and I've never had an inventory problem. The only things in my bank are furnishings, most of which are bound so they can't be sold, and potions and food I make ahead of time for daily writs.

I have 8 chests in my houses that hold everything else I own and they are not even close to full.

The problem isn't with ZoS. It's with keeping items there is no current use for.

katanagirl1 · July 19

No, my available inventory space is enough.

I feel like we have already had this discussion ad nauseum.

Hapexamendios · July 19

No, my available inventory space is enough.

I don't really need it. Can carry the necessary sets on my characters. Have no issues with furniture as there's more than enough space in the available houses. Have enough bank space and storage chests. The only times it gets tight is after the anniversary event and I save all the motifs to sell later.

DreamyLu · July 19

No, my available inventory space is enough.

I have ESO+ and my way is to manage my inventory before every log off so as to have never more than 30 items for the next login.
I never leave the game without:
- Deconstructing armor pieces and weapons.
- Destroying what I set as junk.
- Selling (or putting on trading).

And if it's not sufficient to go below 30 items, I then complete by doing master writs and/or picking up treasures and surveys.

Thanks to that, fact is that I never reach full bags. The rare times it happens, I have a banker and a merchant and can manage even in middle of nowhere.

Amottica · July 19

Most people want more. Zenimax is fully aware of that, but they must balance it with the server's performance and add new services to the game. The eight storage chests, bottomless crafting bag, and reconstruction, so we do not need to hoard gear, were all added to the game to add storage without increasing our bag and bank size to limit those server queries.

Even then, when Zenimax added those features, hoarders like myself quickly filled up the freed-up space with other junk we were hoarding.

Blood_again · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

EdjeSwift wrote: »

ESO+ Subscribers already get massive storage benefits.

If you suppose that all the Yes-voted people here aren't ESO+ players yet, you're definitely wrong.

LaintalAy wrote: »

Logically speaking, you can find furniture in streams, lakes and oceans, by fishing for it. Another reason not to fish.
Also with antiquities, apparently. I can't bothered doing them either.

I absolutely love your logic.
Just to let you know, you may obtain furniture in container loot and, ta-da, mob drop. I know, I know. Logically, it is a reason not to loot anything.
See, we are one step away from the "don't play" maxim

Sarannah · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

kargen27 wrote: »

If you are out of inventory space now and ZoS doubled the amount of slots in the bank and on characters you would be out of space again in a month and wanting more.
Somewhere along the way you have to decide hey I don't need all this stuff.

This simply isn't true for everyone.
Have played for years and years and I play all 20 of my characters, so can't use them as storage. My bank storage is mostly filled with surveys and master writs. Those take up practically all of my space and I keep getting more and more. Only during double exp events, do I get some storage space back. (master writ bag/survey bag please, that would solve most of my space issues)
If I fully empty my inventory on a character, I have between 70-100 slots used left(depending on the character). When I quest, I pick up everything. And as I kill very fast, this fills my inventory back up in minutes. Luckily we now have the deconstructor and merchant assistants, or it would be even more annoying.

Though I am sure some players would hoard too much, there is also the other type: Played for years, has important stuff to hold, and just wants to farm without inventory full all the time. The longer you play, the more you want to keep. An easy example is armory gear, all my characters have atleast three specs(some have more) that often comes with different foods, potions, and poisons.

So yes, we need more inventory space and bank space. Seems strange to me that some are argueing against this.

PS: Have ESO+, max bank space, max inventory space on all characters, have all the house chests, have all the inventory +5 pets, 60/60/60 riding on all characters, etc.
PPS: Also have some companion gear saved, which I found and will use on the new companions. This is only about 100-150 slots though, and is mostly in my house chests/spread accross multiple character's inventories. My house chests hold all the daily login stuff as well.

AnduinTryggva · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

EdjeSwift wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

A 'Furnishings Bag' would certainly alleviate a lot of the storage issues many of us face.

@ZOS_Kevin

This was commented on years ago:
https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/1356994055268409347

Mh. Don't quite understand that tweet. It is not necessary to have a furniture bag with different categories. It could just work as the buyable collection chests.

Calastir · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I feel like we have already had this discussion ad nauseum.

The game has undergone some changes since then and gained lots of new members now who've not spoken up before (like myself). So far the new majority of us seems to be in favor of more Inventory Space. You're welcome to participate and share your opinion with the rest of us.

Blood_again · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

Mh. Don't quite understand that tweet. It is not necessary to have a furniture bag with different categories. It could just work as the buyable collection chests.

It is rather about number of items in the list of crafting and furnishing bags.

Just checked my crafting bag. There are 447 different item types stored at the moment. More than half of them are over 1k, part of them - tens of hundreds.
Technically it is an array of 450 big numbers that is stored on servers per account.
In comparison to inventory items stacked by 200, it is a good save of server storage place. Imagine those 120k of alkahest in inventory, it would be 600 inventory items instead of one number in the crafting bag array.

Imagine the same solution for furniture. Craftstore addon hinted that there are 2944 crafted furniture item types at the moment (may be outdated). I evaluate that there are x3-x5 of non-crafted item types. Let's get a minimal, so it is about 3k crafted and 9k more non-crafted types.
Technically it is an array of about 12000 numbers per account. Pure most of them will be 0 or 1, because players don't usually posess all the furniture types possible. Maximum count for non-crafted I can imagine - 200... well 300 for avid fisherman or jester's standard collector.
12k small numbers technically has no profit in comparison with inventory or house. Even if I fulfill 5 grand manors with furniture having ESO+, it would take 3500 house slots. Instead of 12000 numbers for furniture bag. I guess they are not 1to1 comparable, but I hope you imagined the picture.

That's why furnishing bags was told "not this time", if I got it right.

Shara_Wynn · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

Yes but...

I'd much rather have a furnishing bag and the ability for companions to have a limited inventory space, say 20 each, enough to carry a couple of gear changes.

Also I always thought it was a total rip off that these "inventory non-combat pets" only increased your inventory space by a measly 5 slots.

ghastley · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

The problem is that everything added to the game has introduced new items that need to be collected. Scribing added scripts, and ink, assuming you would only acquire a grimoire just before using it. At least there is only one kind of ink, and it stacks.

Every new style adds a style material, etc.

But none of these additions has been accompanied by an inventory/bank expansion to accommodate it. Storage chests were a temporary fix, but none have been added for a long time, and that was a one-time deal.

We need a mechanism that increases storage each time a new feature requires it, tying the two together.

SilverBride · July 19

No, my available inventory space is enough.

I will never understand players having thousands of surveys and Master writs and maps completely filling their banks, and mules holding even more. And multiple large 700 slot houses filled with thousands of furnishings that will never be used.

This is the problem, not a lack of adequate space. There will never be enough storage for some players because they will just fill every available slot again and still say it's not enough.

TybaltKaine · July 19

No, my available inventory space is enough.

Just...don't hoard things.

There are a bunch of things that need fixing in ESO, but storage isn't one of them.

Calastir · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

SilverBride wrote: »

I will never understand players having thousands of surveys and Master writs and maps completely filling their banks, and mules holding even more. And multiple large 700 slot houses filled with thousands of furnishings that will never be used.

This is the problem, not a lack of adequate space. There will never be enough storage for some players because they will just fill every available slot again and still say it's not enough.

Never is a big word. I'm one of those, so allow me to explain this briefly:
With the almost constant stream of festivals and daily/weekly endeavors I want to participate in as well comes a huge bulk of surveys, master writs and bound treasure maps. Working on my own character targets and real life are currently preventing me from processing them inbetween, but I still plan on using them when I do find the time.

But regardless of this explanation, why is it any of your concern that others are requesting for more Inventory Space? It could benefit you as well.

wolfie1.0. · July 19

No, my available inventory space is enough.

I have lots of accounts, lots of storage space and here is what I have found.

If you have game stuff hoarding tendencies, like I do no amount of storage space will solve your issues.

If you have gear you have nt used in months decon it

Character bound pots? Trash em

That said zos can do better for us players.

should allow us to stack maps, increase food and pot stack size.

Remove faction specific seige types.

Allow us to decon furniture.

SilverBride · July 19

No, my available inventory space is enough.

Calastir wrote: »

But regardless of this explanation, why is it any of your concern that others are requesting for more Inventory Space? It could benefit you as well.

I don't need more space. I'm only using about half what I have now.

This concerns all of us because to make more storage space they will have to cut from somewhere else, like our mail or guild trader listings.

There is no reason to be holding on to thousands of furnishings and writs and surveys and maps. Use them or sell them or destroy them because they are doing no good just sitting there taking up space.

Araneae6537 · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

I resent all the players saying “Don’t hoard things,” blah, blah, blah. I get rid of a LOT of stuff I see no use for, no need for more than one stack of those Crown poisons for endeavors, I limit precrafting to alchemy writs, stay on top of my writs and surveys, burn treasure maps I’m not going to use, don’t keep furnishing I don’t see myself using, even destroying bound furnishings on occasion. I keep furnishings that I intend to use and I like to have them on hand to experiment, find just the right thing, when I’m doing a build.

If you’re not into housing, or have an efficient system in place that works for you, great. That’s not how I do things. That doesn’t make me a hoarder. I use my space for what is of value to me.

(Edit: Fixed typo)

Calastir · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't need more space. I'm only using about half what I have now.

So let others have what you don't use!

SilverBride wrote: »

This concerns all of us because to make more storage space they will have to cut from somewhere else, like our mail or guild trader listings.

That's a baseless technical assumption. They can just expand the memory.

SilverBride wrote: »

There is no reason to be holding on to thousands of furnishings and writs and surveys and maps. Use them or sell them or destroy them because they are doing no good just sitting there taking up space.

I've already explained that I still plan on using them when I do find the time. Plus they are mine. Perhaps I just like the idea of having them.

JemadarofCaerSalis · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

Araneae6537 wrote: »

I resent all the players saying “Don’t hoard things,” blah, blah, blah. I get rid of a LOT of stuff I see no use for, no nee for more than one stack of those Crown poisons for endeavors, I limit precrafting to alchemy writs, stay on top of my writs, burn treasure maps I’m not going to use, don’t keep furnishing I don’t see myself using, even destroying bound furnishings on occasion. I keep furnishings that I intend to use and I like to have them on hand to experiment, find just the right thing, when I’m doing a build.

If you’re not into housing, or have an efficient system in place that works for you, great. That’s not how I do things. That doesn’t make me a hoarder. I use my space for what is of value to me.

Yeah, I also sort of resent the whole 'well, don't bother holding on to things'. I have the same issue with it in real life 'if you aren't going to use it immediately, get rid of it!'

SilverBride · July 19

No, my available inventory space is enough.

Calastir wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

This concerns all of us because to make more storage space they will have to cut from somewhere else, like our mail or guild trader listings.

That's a baseless technical assumption. They can just expand the memory.

Expanding the memory may not be feasible.

tomfant · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

Inventory space on chars is fine IMHO. But the space in the bank needs to be bigger.

Drammanoth · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

People complain there is not enough gold sinks in the game. Well, here you go - another gold sink that could alleviate the problem.

But instead, ZOS wants to sell us ESO+...

Calastir · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

SilverBride wrote: »

Expanding the memory may not be feasible.

With the devs able to add a whole new chapter each year, what makes you think that?

SilverBride · July 19

No, my available inventory space is enough.

Calastir wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Expanding the memory may not be feasible.

With the devs able to add a whole new chapter each year, what makes you think that?

All the things that have been cut, such as no new DLC after the new Chapters now.

Elrond87 · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

well the only reason I would like more bag space is because of the fillers they keep adding that clog the space up that are not stackable, like i got all recipe's yet every daily writ insists i don't know any and keeps giving them to me, for me to destroy in anger, also basic furnish plans.

Same for base zone treasure maps so many i just drag out and destroy, then there is the treasure stuff that keeps pilling up or those notes from azandar to sell, i like to have multiple setups for each role per character so it leaves me with like 5-10 bag space for the junk that keeps coming in.

katanagirl1 · July 19

No, my available inventory space is enough.

Calastir wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I feel like we have already had this discussion ad nauseum.

The game has undergone some changes since then and gained lots of new members now who've not spoken up before (like myself). So far the new majority of us seems to be in favor of more Inventory Space. You're welcome to participate and share your opinion with the rest of us.

My comment was not directed to you personally. The last thread was a heated discussion much like this one is becoming. There seem to be a lot of players who don’t do much in the game and therefore don’t have much in their inventories. Even when people who PvP or do trials or both give valid reasons why they struggle with inventory space, they are called hoarders.

It all comes across as others trying to tell people how to play their game. It’s like they can’t deal with the fact that others are playing the game differently than they are and they have to keep posting about it ever time it comes up.

My vote is that my inventory is enough, but I have to put great effort into keeping it cleared when I do housing, antiquities, PvP, trials, and some other things I am sure I can’t remember right now. Events that give motifs and such cause such problems with my bank and player inventories, and the guild listings being shorter will make that worse. I basically force myself to work within those constraints but it is my choice to do so.

I am all in favor of increasing space because the reasons stated are valid, there is much more to do int the game now and limits haven’t been raised in a long time.

If players want more space then it does not affect me in the least if I choose to keep my space where it is now. I’m not going to argue against it.

TaSheen · July 19

An "other", "middle of the road", or "straddling the fence" sort of option would have been nice....

I don't myself need more inventory space. But a lot of people do, so I think it would be nice if ZOS stepped up to the plate on this.

JemadarofCaerSalis · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Calastir wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I feel like we have already had this discussion ad nauseum.

The game has undergone some changes since then and gained lots of new members now who've not spoken up before (like myself). So far the new majority of us seems to be in favor of more Inventory Space. You're welcome to participate and share your opinion with the rest of us.

My comment was not directed to you personally. The last thread was a heated discussion much like this one is becoming. There seem to be a lot of players who don’t do much in the game and therefore don’t have much in their inventories. Even when people who PvP or do trials or both give valid reasons why they struggle with inventory space, they are called hoarders.

It all comes across as others trying to tell people how to play their game. It’s like they can’t deal with the fact that others are playing the game differently than they are and they have to keep posting about it ever time it comes up.

My vote is that my inventory is enough, but I have to put great effort into keeping it cleared when I do housing, antiquities, PvP, trials, and some other things I am sure I can’t remember right now. Events that give motifs and such cause such problems with my bank and player inventories, and the guild listings being shorter will make that worse. I basically force myself to work within those constraints but it is my choice to do so.

I am all in favor of increasing space because the reasons stated are valid, there is much more to do int the game now and limits haven’t been raised in a long time.

If players want more space then it does not affect me in the least if I choose to keep my space where it is now. I’m not going to argue against it.

I am one who normally does struggle with inventory space, because I do tend to hoard. I can't do it in real life, so I do it in games.

I have managed to keep my inventory under control in ESO, but that came at the cost of getting rid of some of the 'keepsake' weapons/armor (ones with special blurbs about a quest you just completed) and other things I would have liked to have kept, just as a reminder of those quests and NPCs. I also have a house I use to stick furniture in so it doesn't overload my bank. I am also using ESO +, so I don't have to worry about crafting ingredients. It also means culling things that tend to add up over time, such as selling soulgems/lockpicks. Pretty soon it is probably going to mean needing to start destroying the Tripots we are given through the daily rewards as I don't use them and I can't get rid of them any other way.

All of these things are not things I really *want* to do (would prefer to keep the furniture in a place easily accessible from anywhere, while I like ESO+ for access to DLCs, I dread what my inventory is going to look like when I cancel it, etc..)

AzuraFan · July 19

Yes, gimme more!

SilverBride wrote: »

All the things that have been cut, such as no new DLC after the new Chapters now.

That's a dev resources issue, not a technical one.

And frankly, I don't buy the "it's because of the database" reason we're constantly fed. If the database truly was bloated, ZOS would not keep adding style pages, scripts, ToT decks, motifs, sets, houses, furniture, recipes, companions, more items to the crown store, etc. All that stuff has to be tracked, yet they keep adding more. And that's why we need more storage space.

Maybe at some point we'll be fed the line that the database wouldn't be able to handle more banking/inventory slots, at which point my response would be that I'd rather have more slots than more junk added to the game, junk that they're somehow miraculously able to track despite the database not being able to handle more inventory slots.