Quarter 3 housing update speculation

TheNuminous1 · June 23

So someone on reddit discovered an alinor style house on the coast of auridon, you can see it from the cliffs near tanzelwil and it looks amazing. (Maybe it's not a new house for the future)

But it looks like it.

My thought is they are going to add a new set of base game houses but with all the new furnishing assets they have made since launch.

So that might mean all new houses in ALL the racial styles,

I remember something like when housing first came out they snuck all the houses (or some I don't re.ember) into the game in the update before housing.

So something about this auridon house is making me feel like we are getting new houses for the base game.

Any thoughts?

Has anyone gone and seen this auridon house yet? It looks amazing.

Any other guesses?

prof-dracko · June 24

They hinted that Swordsingers had some secret hint to the new system/mechanic/update, but the only notable thing besides being fairly open plan is the odd animal interactions in the cave areas. Makes me think perhaps a customisable zoo?

DinoZavr · June 24

i would be very glad if Zeni eventually decide to make furnishings deconstructible.

Gray_howling_parrot · June 24

It's supposedly a new housing update, so I personally don't think it will just be the addition of more housing, but rather some sort of system tied to housing itself:

- Furniture storage
- Deconstruction table for excess furniture
- Consolidation of furniture crafting to the same table where the deconstruction will take place
- Some sort of base game version of essential housing tools, a popular PC housing addon

tsaescishoeshiner · June 24

I found that Alinor building in Auridon, too (it's right by a crafting survey)—I was wondering if it was an upcoming quest area. It would be a quaint house, but nothing exciting to me like another empty plot/meadow house.

They do add houses to the basegame zones already every now and then, so that wouldn't be new. Like Sword-Singers, Seaveil, etc.

The real question is ... can we find any other suspicious new structures? If the Auridon building is a quest house for a new companion, where would the other one be? Maybe in Valenwood, Bangkorai, or Skyrim?

Araneae6537 · June 24

I hope it’s not decon, that would be disappointing. I hope it’s something that gives new features to what we can do with housing — more control over effects and weather, for instance, adding emotes to houseguest pathing. The only utility that would excite me is some kind of furnishing bag / storage accessible when placing furnishings.

TheNuminous1 · June 24

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

I found that Alinor building in Auridon, too (it's right by a crafting survey)—I was wondering if it was an upcoming quest area. It would be a quaint house, but nothing exciting to me like another empty plot/meadow house.

They do add houses to the basegame zones already every now and then, so that wouldn't be new. Like Sword-Singers, Seaveil, etc.

The real question is ... can we find any other suspicious new structures? If the Auridon building is a quest house for a new companion, where would the other one be? Maybe in Valenwood, Bangkorai, or Skyrim?

If you find anymore come back and update I've been keeping my eye out now lol. Bur your totally right it could be a house added cause of a quest or something. But I'd love for it to be a player house lol

LunaFlora · June 24

prof-dracko wrote: »

They hinted that Swordsingers had some secret hint to the new system/mechanic/update, but the only notable thing besides being fairly open plan is the odd animal interactions in the cave areas. Makes me think perhaps a customisable zoo?

i think that house was just hinting at the stuff in the housing spotlight.
zos never said anything about it hinting at update 43

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/65939
"You’ll receive the unfurnished house on just your third day of logins this month, starting things off with something spectacular. Speaking of spectacular, this house could be hinting at something special! You’ll have to wait and see…"
the housing spotlight details got announced a few days after the daily rewards

LunaFlora · June 24

i would love to see more smaller homes so if that Auridon building is a future house that's awesome.

the only speculation i have is that we are very likely getting furnishing deconstruction.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/658412/deconstructable-furniture-in-update-43#latest
recently i saw the text "This cannot be deconstructed." on furnishings inside in a furnishing pack container in my inventory, specifically the Moon Bishop's Sanctuary pack and more recently the Maormer pack

katanagirl1 · June 24

Not so secretly hoping for a furnishings stickerbook.

EDIT: OK I’m calling it that but really just a way to know what plans we have learned and which ones we have not.

RaddlemanNumber7 · June 24

The new Auridon house looks beautiful. A manageable size. A nice garden. I'm very interested, whatever new system features it's got.

TheNuminous1 · June 24

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

The new Auridon house looks beautiful. A manageable size. A nice garden. I'm very interested, whatever new system features it's got.

This is exactly the kind of house I'd pump out 40 bucks a month to buy. 5500 unfurnished 7500 furnished. Perfect house.

Araneae6537 · June 24

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Not so secretly hoping for a furnishings stickerbook.

EDIT: OK I’m calling it that but really just a way to know what plans we have learned and which ones we have not.

I would prefer even deconstructing furniture to that! At least that would offer something not currently possible!

I suppose it will be best if I can try not to set my hopes too high — better to be pleasantly surprised than disappointed!

freespirit · June 24

Ok so stealing this picture from a friend.

Not sure where she got it but maybe PTS, maybe somewhere else entirely but it suggests maybe a Q4 morph house because Doomchar had 5 morph pieces

Also the Auridon house could be a reward from the community event and the picture could relate to an entirely different house...I feel it would be a house though, seeing's each part is a key!

katanagirl1 · June 25

Araneae6537 wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Not so secretly hoping for a furnishings stickerbook.

EDIT: OK I’m calling it that but really just a way to know what plans we have learned and which ones we have not.

I would prefer even deconstructing furniture to that! At least that would offer something not currently possible! I suppose it will be best if I can try not to set my hopes too high — better to be pleasantly surprised than disappointed!

We don’t have add-ons on console so there is no way for us to know.

Laivine_Aldaron · June 25

I think we are getting furniture storage and decon.

I would love to see furniture/structural elements scaling feature, weather control and ability to remove all prefabs from a plot if needed (or by choosing prefab or empty plot instance).

Araneae6537 · June 25

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Not so secretly hoping for a furnishings stickerbook.

EDIT: OK I’m calling it that but really just a way to know what plans we have learned and which ones we have not.

I would prefer even deconstructing furniture to that! At least that would offer something not currently possible! I suppose it will be best if I can try not to set my hopes too high — better to be pleasantly surprised than disappointed!

We don’t have add-ons on console so there is no way for us to know.

I agree that the equivalent of Character Knowledge should be added to the base game so that you can see what is known on other characters on your account as well as see a list of all furnishings available to be learned. It would just be disappointing as the only new “feature” as it would not enable any of us to actually do anything different with our houses or furnishings. That is what I meant to express.

katanagirl1 · June 25

Araneae6537 wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Not so secretly hoping for a furnishings stickerbook.

EDIT: OK I’m calling it that but really just a way to know what plans we have learned and which ones we have not.

I would prefer even deconstructing furniture to that! At least that would offer something not currently possible! I suppose it will be best if I can try not to set my hopes too high — better to be pleasantly surprised than disappointed!

We don’t have add-ons on console so there is no way for us to know.

I agree that the equivalent of Character Knowledge should be added to the base game so that you can see what is known on other characters on your account as well as see a list of all furnishings available to be learned. It would just be disappointing as the only new “feature” as it would not enable any of us to actually do anything different with our houses or furnishings. That is what I meant to express.

I see what you mean and that makes sense. I just don’t want us to be forgotten - lately it seems console players are at best forgotten and at worse reviled.

EDIT: OK that might be too strong a word, but something negative there

ArchangelIsraphel · July 1

I wonder if the image on the launcher carries any clues- I could be wrong, but it doesn't look like an old stock advertisement image. The character in the picture is wearing a fairly recent hair style.

Then again, I could be totally off base, and this might have been used before:

vsrs_au · July 1

I just found this (don't use the link if you don't want pre-update spoiler):
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Update_43

It's a bit disappointing, if it's accurate, because I was hoping for something more interesting than this.

freespirit · July 1

vsrs_au wrote: »

I just found this (don't use the link if you don't want pre-update spoiler):
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Update_43

It's a bit disappointing, if it's accurate, because I was hoping for something more interesting than this.

I too have seen this in multiple places...... if it is accurate and if it is the total sum of the Update, well I am beyond disappointed!!

Araneae6537 · July 1

vsrs_au wrote: »

I just found this (don't use the link if you don't want pre-update spoiler):
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Update_43

It's a bit disappointing, if it's accurate, because I was hoping for something more interesting than this.

If true, it is a good thing and has not been possible at all on consoles (and only possible on PC through the Housing Hub add-on). Not the emotes for houseguest pathing I was hoping for, but MUCH better than guild-specific houses, IMHO, and some other speculated features.
I just reeeally hope that ZOS also limits the inspect ability or otherwise prohibits add-ons from being able to copy-paste builds!

Lugaldu · July 2

freespirit wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

I just found this (don't use the link if you don't want pre-update spoiler):
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Update_43

It's a bit disappointing, if it's accurate, because I was hoping for something more interesting than this.

I too have seen this in multiple places...... if it is accurate and if it is the total sum of the Update, well I am beyond disappointed!!

Me too!

Syldras · July 2

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

I wonder if the image on the launcher carries any clues- I could be wrong, but it doesn't look like an old stock advertisement image. The character in the picture is wearing a fairly recent hair style.
Then again, I could be totally off base, and this might have been used before:

Furniture bag/box?
And no, I have never seen that before either.

vsrs_au wrote: »

I just found this (don't use the link if you don't want pre-update spoiler):
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Update_43
It's a bit disappointing, if it's accurate, because I was hoping for something more interesting than this.

That can't be all (and for console players, it's a nice feature). The article is almost empty, after all, including a completely empty paragraph below this title:

It's just a placeholder more or less, because there's no official info yet.

tsaescishoeshiner · July 2

Araneae6537 wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

I just found this (don't use the link if you don't want pre-update spoiler):
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Update_43

It's a bit disappointing, if it's accurate, because I was hoping for something more interesting than this.

If true, it is a good thing and has not been possible at all on consoles (and only possible on PC through the Housing Hub add-on). Not the emotes for houseguest pathing I was hoping for, but MUCH better than guild-specific houses, IMHO, and some other speculated features.
I just reeeally hope that ZOS also limits the inspect ability or otherwise prohibits add-ons from being able to copy-paste builds!

I agree it could be totally good and add a lot of life to housing and sharing builds. People would spend more time visiting houses, and thus more time doing housing.

It's worth noting that the devs responded to the thread about build copying--I was surprised they were suddenly interested, but it might make more sense if it could impact to how an upcoming house visiting feature would be received.

I'm personally against limiting features to cater to people who don't want their build copied, because I think it's very controlling behavior and places personal reputation over the freedom to choose your house. But it's certainly different if there was an official housing listing. EDIT: To clarify, I'm saying it might be worth limiting features because some in the community are concerned about copying, whether I agree with it or not.

Is copying really tied to the inspect feature? I'd thought EHT would have a way to detect the arrangements of furnishings without it. If it was tied to inspect, maybe there could be a homeowner option to have the inspect only list what items there are, not where they are. Or the inspect feature could only pass the location of objects, but not their rotation. So to copy+paste a build, you'd have to manually rotate everything somehow, one-by-one.

Darkmage1337 · July 2

The "Special Furnishings" (VFX) category and the "Special Collectibles" (NPCs) category are long overdue to both be doubled from 5 to 10 (default) and 10 to 20 (ESO+), especially with the upcoming new companions in the Q4 2024 Update.
With 8 companions as well as a banker and a merchant, that maxes out the current 10 "Special Collectibles" category limit.
If ZOS keeps adding more companions, then there will not be enough "furniture-space" for all of them in any player's home.
Don't forget about the dozens of unusable mounts and pets, too. There is no space for everything; but, 10 is way too limiting.
If ZOS can't increase the overall furniture-limit due to "performance issues", then the least that they could do is double the "Special Furnishings" (VFX) category and the "Special Collectibles" (NPCs) category from 5 to 10 (default) and 10 to 20 (ESO+).

katanagirl1 · July 2

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

The "Special Furnishings" (VFX) category and the "Special Collectibles" (NPCs) category are long overdue to both be doubled from 5 to 10 (default) and 10 to 20 (ESO+), especially with the upcoming new companions in the Q4 2024 Update.
With 8 companions as well as a banker and a merchant, that maxes out the current 10 "Special Collectibles" category limit.
If ZOS keeps adding more companions, then there will not be enough "furniture-space" for all of them in any player's home.
Don't forget about the dozens of unusable mounts and pets, too. There is no space for everything; but, 10 is way too limiting.
If ZOS can't increase the overall furniture-limit due to "performance issues", then the least that they could do is double the "Special Furnishings" (VFX) category and the "Special Collectibles" (NPCs) category from 5 to 10 (default) and 10 to 20 (ESO+).

I would expect that these type furnishings are exactly what is impacting performance, though.

Darkmage1337 · July 2

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

The "Special Furnishings" (VFX) category and the "Special Collectibles" (NPCs) category are long overdue to both be doubled from 5 to 10 (default) and 10 to 20 (ESO+), especially with the upcoming new companions in the Q4 2024 Update.
With 8 companions as well as a banker and a merchant, that maxes out the current 10 "Special Collectibles" category limit.
If ZOS keeps adding more companions, then there will not be enough "furniture-space" for all of them in any player's home.
Don't forget about the dozens of unusable mounts and pets, too. There is no space for everything; but, 10 is way too limiting.
If ZOS can't increase the overall furniture-limit due to "performance issues", then the least that they could do is double the "Special Furnishings" (VFX) category and the "Special Collectibles" (NPCs) category from 5 to 10 (default) and 10 to 20 (ESO+).

I would expect that these type furnishings are exactly what is impacting performance, though.

VFX furnishings are relatively new and severely lag behind in time of the overall furniture-limit.
Even then, 5 extra NPCs aren't going to kill performance. 50-100 beds, dressers, (etc.) might.

Araneae6537 · July 2

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

I just found this (don't use the link if you don't want pre-update spoiler):
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Update_43

It's a bit disappointing, if it's accurate, because I was hoping for something more interesting than this.

If true, it is a good thing and has not been possible at all on consoles (and only possible on PC through the Housing Hub add-on). Not the emotes for houseguest pathing I was hoping for, but MUCH better than guild-specific houses, IMHO, and some other speculated features.
I just reeeally hope that ZOS also limits the inspect ability or otherwise prohibits add-ons from being able to copy-paste builds!

I agree it could be totally good and add a lot of life to housing and sharing builds. People would spend more time visiting houses, and thus more time doing housing.

It's worth noting that the devs responded to the thread about build copying--I was surprised they were suddenly interested, but it might make more sense if it could impact to how an upcoming house visiting feature would be received.

I'm personally against limiting features to cater to people who don't want their build copied, because I think it's very controlling behavior and places personal reputation over the freedom to choose your house. But it's certainly different if there was an official housing listing. EDIT: To clarify, I'm saying it might be worth limiting features because some in the community are concerned about copying, whether I agree with it or not.

Is copying really tied to the inspect feature? I'd thought EHT would have a way to detect the arrangements of furnishings without it. If it was tied to inspect, maybe there could be a homeowner option to have the inspect only list what items there are, not where they are. Or the inspect feature could only pass the location of objects, but not their rotation. So to copy+paste a build, you'd have to manually rotate everything somehow, one-by-one.

To my understanding, the EHT copy feature used to be able to be accessed by those with decorator permission. Ideally, it would be nice if one could still inspect to see how something is put together (it’s a great learning tool), but the ability to straight copy-paste without permission is wrong, especially showing or entering contests with it as your own creation.

One can manually place all the furnishings themselves of course in emulation of anything, but at least then they’re putting in the work, although I would still think it wrong the claim ownership of the design. Hopefully most people who build themselves would just take inspiration and techniques to build their own creations.

Kallykat · July 2

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

The new Auridon house looks beautiful. A manageable size. A nice garden. I'm very interested, whatever new system features it's got.

This is gorgeous! I really wish they would add more small and medium houses for gold or quest achievements, especially in DLC zones where there aren't a lot of housing options. However, I wouldn't think of new houses as a "feature," but more of an "update."

vsrs_au wrote: »

I just found this (don't use the link if you don't want pre-update spoiler):
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Update_43

It's a bit disappointing, if it's accurate, because I was hoping for something more interesting than this.

This is more like what I would consider a "feature," although not one that particularly excites me. I can see how it would be great for end-game housing players though or players looking for housing inspiration. I hope if this is the big reveal (which seems likely) that there will be smaller additions as well. I'd really like that furnishing sticker book and weather control. I've also heard people suggest portals for traveling within homes or from one house to another, which could be interesting.

freespirit wrote: »

Ok so stealing this picture from a friend.

Not sure where she got it but maybe PTS, maybe somewhere else entirely but it suggests maybe a Q4 morph house because Doomchar had 5 morph pieces

Also the Auridon house could be a reward from the community event and the picture could relate to an entirely different house...I feel it would be a house though, seeing's each part is a key!

This definitely seems to me like a Q4 event house since it's themed to the original main questline characters.

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

I wonder if the image on the launcher carries any clues- I could be wrong, but it doesn't look like an old stock advertisement image. The character in the picture is wearing a fairly recent hair style.

Then again, I could be totally off base, and this might have been used before:

I don't recall that particular image either. However, the hairstyle looks to me like The Heroic Poet, which is not new as it's been around since 2016 (according to the UESP). Though, the box she's carrying is interesting if this image does relate to the update.

katanagirl1 · July 3

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

The "Special Furnishings" (VFX) category and the "Special Collectibles" (NPCs) category are long overdue to both be doubled from 5 to 10 (default) and 10 to 20 (ESO+), especially with the upcoming new companions in the Q4 2024 Update.
With 8 companions as well as a banker and a merchant, that maxes out the current 10 "Special Collectibles" category limit.
If ZOS keeps adding more companions, then there will not be enough "furniture-space" for all of them in any player's home.
Don't forget about the dozens of unusable mounts and pets, too. There is no space for everything; but, 10 is way too limiting.
If ZOS can't increase the overall furniture-limit due to "performance issues", then the least that they could do is double the "Special Furnishings" (VFX) category and the "Special Collectibles" (NPCs) category from 5 to 10 (default) and 10 to 20 (ESO+).

I would expect that these type furnishings are exactly what is impacting performance, though.

VFX furnishings are relatively new and severely lag behind in time of the overall furniture-limit.
Even then, 5 extra NPCs aren't going to kill performance. 50-100 beds, dressers, (etc.) might.

Lighted furnishings are more taxing performance-wise.