Daily Rewards: more tri-pots and less crates please.

TaSheen

CrashTest wrote: »

oof at people who throw away crown tripots

*cries in tank and broke DK DPS*

What else would we do with them? If they're not all that useful due to how some of us play, there's no reason at all for me (for instance) to stuff them into my bank until it overflows with them. And.... they're bound y'know? So....?

CrashTest

TaSheen wrote: »

CrashTest wrote: »

oof at people who throw away crown tripots

*cries in tank and broke DK DPS*

What else would we do with them? If they're not all that useful due to how some of us play, there's no reason at all for me (for instance) to stuff them into my bank until it overflows with them. And.... they're bound y'know? So....?

If they were tradable, I'd definitely buy them from other players who don't want them.

TaSheen

CrashTest wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

CrashTest wrote: »

oof at people who throw away crown tripots

*cries in tank and broke DK DPS*

What else would we do with them? If they're not all that useful due to how some of us play, there's no reason at all for me (for instance) to stuff them into my bank until it overflows with them. And.... they're bound y'know? So....?

If they were tradable, I'd definitely buy them from other players who don't want them.

Understandable. And if they were tradable, I'd give them to you - I don't sell stuff that's not usable for me, I give it away. No, I don't need gold - I have millions I have nothing to spend on as it is.

But ZOS, in its infinite wisdom, has made them bound on pickup....

Tornaad

I have somewhere around 2,000 tripots. I am good with the way things are.

LaintalAy

N00BxV1 wrote: »

OP: You probably should have just said "more tri-pots" and never even mentioned anything about "less crown crates"... I bet everyone (except the people that like to disagree for no reason, or those benefiting from the current situation) would have agreed that receiving more tri-pots in daily rewards is a good thing, as long as it wasn't replacing something more desirable. People are generally okay with receiving more or extra of something, but they do not like receiving less or the taking away of something.

You probably should have just said "more tri-pots" and never even mentioned anything about "less crown crates"

• Crates only offer a chance at a reward that you might want.
• instead of having a chance at a getting a mount; I'd rather just have the mount.
• If 1 crate costs 400 crowns and I get only 3-4 gems from a crate, then that makes Gems up to 100 crowns each
• A Costume cost me 40 gems, or somewhere between 3-4000 Crowns, I could buy a Mount with that

I bet everyone (snip) would have agreed that receiving more tri-pots in daily rewards is a good thing

• I don't use Crown Tri-pots at the same rate as other players.
• I don't recall being able to exchange them for gems

those benefiting from the current situation

• Columbine is free
• Columbine is also used on several cooking recipes; not just pots
• I don't sell Columbine
• When I have 25 or more, I might make 100 pots and sell those.
• If you're willing to pay someone else 4000, then that's for getting them to pick it for you.
• The price is not just what people are charging; it's also what people can and do pay.
• When people stop buying it, the price will go down. see: "Cornflower"

they do not like receiving less or the taking away of something.

• They can take away the AP and Telvar.
• I don't use either.
• I suspect that many PvE players don't even know what they are.

I hope that that helps.

whitecrow

Please, no, I already have fifty million of those things. At least with crates there's a chance of something interesting.

Ishtarknows

I'm happy they dropped the Crown refreshing drink from the daily rewards. It saves me destroying them. Now it's time to do the same for the crown meals please. More tripots please, but not at the expense of other more interesting rewards

BretonMage

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

We're missing the REAL daily reward duds: Crown Soul Gems.

Oh, mercy, those. Yeah, they're so bad I'd forgotten about them, but they always come back into my inventory to haunt me.

TaSheen wrote: »

And if they were tradable, I'd give them to you - I don't sell stuff that's not usable for me, I give it away.

I do think most bound items should be able to be given away, especially ones that are not designed to be rare or collectible. If it's useful to others, increasing feelings of goodwill in the game should surely be a good thing for the sense of community.

Sakiri

N00BxV1 wrote: »

BXR_Lonestar wrote: »

I disagree. I like the crates. But I would rather have more Tripots than some of the other useless stuff we get like the poisons, soul gems, at this point, I'd even take tripots over gold rewards unless they're giving the gold away in 100k chunks.

Currently on PC/NA it costs about 250K Gold (5K * (200 / 4) = 250K) to make just one stack of Tri-pots!!!

The cost to make just one stack of Tri-pots is 2.5 TIMES GREATER THAN the value of that daily login reward of 100K Gold!!!

So, I'd rather have a stack of Crown Tri-pots for the daily login reward than that measly 100K Gold!

Disagree.

Go farm your own columbine and you won't have a problem.

I'll take the crates, thanks.

Zodiarkslayer

Sure, but only under one condition. We need to be able to craft Crown crates via Alchemy skill!

That seems to me is a fair exchange, don't you think?

old_scopie1945

Just a question from an old man. Are these crates a gift from ZOS or a hook to tempt you to spend real money and buy more? Just asking, I seem to suspect everything these days. It's a thought though.

TaSheen

At this point in time, both. I don't buy crates, so it's totally useless from that angle. Do love the gift of ones though!

katanagirl1

LaintalAy wrote: »

N00BxV1 wrote: »

OP: You probably should have just said "more tri-pots" and never even mentioned anything about "less crown crates"... I bet everyone (except the people that like to disagree for no reason, or those benefiting from the current situation) would have agreed that receiving more tri-pots in daily rewards is a good thing, as long as it wasn't replacing something more desirable. People are generally okay with receiving more or extra of something, but they do not like receiving less or the taking away of something.

You probably should have just said "more tri-pots" and never even mentioned anything about "less crown crates"

• Crates only offer a chance at a reward that you might want.
• instead of having a chance at a getting a mount; I'd rather just have the mount.
• If 1 crate costs 400 crowns and I get only 3-4 gems from a crate, then that makes Gems up to 100 crowns each
• A Costume cost me 40 gems, or somewhere between 3-4000 Crowns, I could buy a Mount with that

I bet everyone (snip) would have agreed that receiving more tri-pots in daily rewards is a good thing

• I don't use Crown Tri-pots at the same rate as other players.
• I don't recall being able to exchange them for gems

those benefiting from the current situation

• Columbine is free
• Columbine is also used on several cooking recipes; not just pots
• I don't sell Columbine
• When I have 25 or more, I might make 100 pots and sell those.
• If you're willing to pay someone else 4000, then that's for getting them to pick it for you.
• The price is not just what people are charging; it's also what people can and do pay.
• When people stop buying it, the price will go down. see: "Cornflower"

they do not like receiving less or the taking away of something.

• They can take away the AP and Telvar.
• I don't use either.
• I suspect that many PvE players don't even know what they are.

I hope that that helps.

Please don’t advocate taking away the tel var or AP either. I greatly appreciate them.

Ekzorka

Alinhbo_Tyaka

old_scopie1945 wrote: »

Just a question from an old man. Are these crates a gift from ZOS or a hook to tempt you to spend real money and buy more? Just asking, I seem to suspect everything these days. It's a thought though.

Both. They are a gift given in the hopes that it might whet a player's appetite to buy more crates.

tincanman

old_scopie1945 wrote: »

Just a question from an old man. Are these crates a gift from ZOS or a hook to tempt you to spend real money and buy more? Just asking, I seem to suspect everything these days. It's a thought though.

Great rhetorical point and well made!

Anything that points to the crown store - daily rewards, 'starter quests', subscription 'deals' and 'freebies' just adds to the skinner box conditioning.

Ironic that we complain about farming virtual stuff while for zos, I imagine, the biggest stress is farming our cash and or attracting or cultivating new whales.

SilverBride

Players that don't spend money on crates aren't likely to start buying crates just because they got a handful of potions from a free one. I did get some skins and other things I have no interest in but mostly just extracted gems and used some for research scrolls.

But they are fun to open and I'd still rather get crates than potions I already have too many of.

wolfie1.0.

Honestly, they should just

N00BxV1 wrote: »

To put things into perspective:

On PC (using addons) you can earn ~5K Gold in ~2 minutes from doing a set of Daily Crafting Writs.

On PC/NA it costs ~5K Gold every ~3 minutes just to use Tri-pots while in endgame content.

It takes running ~5+ Veteran Dungeons, which can take ~10+ minutes each, and then selling everything that you loot to npc vendors, just to get ~5K Gold.

That is a problem...

Things have changed so much since 2014. It's time for a regular increase of all sources of ingame Gold (not just during specific events). From quest rewards, from looted Gold, from items sold to vendors, etc. all of it needs to be increased.

That actually won't solve the issue.

The fact that post anniversary event Columbine prices have dropped proves this.

People hate doing the activities needed to get Columbine supplies.

What we have is a supply issue and getting more gold won't increase the supply.

Mat rewards from more daily quest objectives actually would help.

cyclonus11

They need to add alchemy and jewelry hirelings.

spartaxoxo

I'll take the crates, thanks. If you'd prefer potions, turn your gems into them.

Amottica

KaosWarMonk wrote: »

Personally, I prefer the opposite. I have more tri-pots and poisons than I know what to do with.

I saw the title and chuckled since many threads have complained about what they considered junk.

However, this thread does point out that one person's trash is another person's treasure. I will note that potions can help in gameplay where optimally crafted potions are unnecessary. A thread just the other day asked if alchemy mattered to most, making it clear that some just use free potions.

I think there is a nice balance between the two, but we will not see that for a while since the login rewards seem enhanced for the 10-year anniversary.

katanagirl1

Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »

old_scopie1945 wrote: »

Just a question from an old man. Are these crates a gift from ZOS or a hook to tempt you to spend real money and buy more? Just asking, I seem to suspect everything these days. It's a thought though.

Both. They are a gift given in the hopes that it might whet a player's appetite to buy more crates.

Maybe it has that effect on some people, but plenty of others say the lackluster rewards reinforce their opinion that buying them is a waste of time and money.

LaintalAy

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Please don’t advocate taking away the tel var or AP either. I greatly appreciate them.

Fair enough. I just don't use them.

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »

old_scopie1945 wrote: »

Just a question from an old man. Are these crates a gift from ZOS or a hook to tempt you to spend real money and buy more? Just asking, I seem to suspect everything these days. It's a thought though.

Both. They are a gift given in the hopes that it might whet a player's appetite to buy more crates.

Maybe it has that effect on some people, but plenty of others say the lackluster rewards reinforce their opinion that buying them is a waste of time and money.

Yup.

zaria

KaosWarMonk wrote: »

Personally, I prefer the opposite. I have more tri-pots and poisons than I know what to do with.

This, you can also craft tri-pots and they are stronger than the crown ones. I also prefer other potions for serious work.

LaintalAy

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Honestly, they should just

N00BxV1 wrote: »

To put things into perspective:

On PC (using addons) you can earn ~5K Gold in ~2 minutes from doing a set of Daily Crafting Writs.

On PC/NA it costs ~5K Gold every ~3 minutes just to use Tri-pots while in endgame content.

It takes running ~5+ Veteran Dungeons, which can take ~10+ minutes each, and then selling everything that you loot to npc vendors, just to get ~5K Gold.

That is a problem...

Things have changed so much since 2014. It's time for a regular increase of all sources of ingame Gold (not just during specific events). From quest rewards, from looted Gold, from items sold to vendors, etc. all of it needs to be increased.

That actually won't solve the issue.

The fact that post anniversary event Columbine prices have dropped proves this.

People hate doing the activities needed to get Columbine supplies.

What we have is a supply issue and getting more gold won't increase the supply.

Mat rewards from more daily quest objectives actually would help.

The problem with Columbine is that it is used in many recipes, as well as pots. It gets consumed rapidly. That might show up as 'none available' in guild traders. People doing the harvesting run out of time, too.

FlopsyPrince

The crates do remind us how unlikely the crates are to produce much of value, saving us Crowns for them.

wolfie1.0.

LaintalAy wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Honestly, they should just

N00BxV1 wrote: »

To put things into perspective:

On PC (using addons) you can earn ~5K Gold in ~2 minutes from doing a set of Daily Crafting Writs.

On PC/NA it costs ~5K Gold every ~3 minutes just to use Tri-pots while in endgame content.

It takes running ~5+ Veteran Dungeons, which can take ~10+ minutes each, and then selling everything that you loot to npc vendors, just to get ~5K Gold.

That is a problem...

Things have changed so much since 2014. It's time for a regular increase of all sources of ingame Gold (not just during specific events). From quest rewards, from looted Gold, from items sold to vendors, etc. all of it needs to be increased.

That actually won't solve the issue.

The fact that post anniversary event Columbine prices have dropped proves this.

People hate doing the activities needed to get Columbine supplies.

What we have is a supply issue and getting more gold won't increase the supply.

Mat rewards from more daily quest objectives actually would help.

The problem with Columbine is that it is used in many recipes, as well as pots. It gets consumed rapidly. That might show up as 'none available' in guild traders. People doing the harvesting run out of time, too.

Agreed, which just means that increasing gold won't solve this issue.

vsrs_au

Ekzorka wrote: »

That must be taking up a big chunk of your inventory(ies), given they only stack in lots of 200.

jaekobcaed

I have a gargantuan stack of tri-pots in my bank and on each of my characters. I don't need any more. I like having the chance to win something cool or stack up my crown gems thanks to the crates.

SalamanNZ

Crates make me sad. Hopes get up only to be torn down when I get potions and scrolls