Adventurer Across a Decade requirements are too much

loveeso · May 14

Danikat wrote: »

loveeso wrote: »

Look, folks, it’s quite straightforward. The game launched on April 4, 2014. Fast forward to April 2024, and we’ve hit the grand milestone of a full decade. Now, if this was genuinely an achievement for a ‘decade of quests,’ then it wouldn’t hinge on getting the latest expansion set for release in June. Logically, any quests from that expansion would fall under the future triumph of ‘two decades of adventure.’ As it stands, it’s not so much an achievement for a decade of quests, but rather just another 'incentive' to entice the eager beavers to pre-purchase or buy at full price, instead of snagging the expansion a few months down the line for less than 20% of its original cost. I’m all for transparency. Marketing gimmicks and fibs? Not so much. This critique comes from someone who’s got more money than sense and has already pre-purchased (for the trial, I don't like the skin), rather than allocating those funds to a worthy charitable cause.

Here we go again: the new achievement is a permanent addition to the game. You will be able to get it at any time after Gold Road launches. You do not have to pre-order the chapter, or buy it immediately and, like any other achievement, there's certainly no requirement to pay full price for it.

If you want to wait until it's discounted later this year, or bundled with future chapters a year or more down the line you can do that and will then be able to unlock the new skin.

I suggest revisiting the text you’ve responded to, [snip] as your previous reply seems to have missed the core issue presented.

[edited for baiting]

LunaFlora · May 14

do the zone stories during free ESO Plus weeks.
There is no rush as the achievement will be there forever though.

Blood_again · May 14

Elsonso wrote: »

The "10 years" covers console launch, too. That was not until June 2015, making an anniversary span of 15 months. That means that the next two Chapters will likely be within that window. Just the messenger.

Nice stretch

Well, it may work.
I still think it is all about marketing. Don't get me wrong. I don't blame them. It would be strange to miss the opportunity to sell more with it.

Gray_howling_parrot · May 14

jaekobcaed wrote: »

I just finished reading the article about the upcoming 10-year achievement. I noticed that the requirements are way too much. I totally understand making it a requirement to finish all the chapters but throwing zone DLCs in the mix isn't very fair. I've been playing this game since beta (though I skipped year one due to the subscription) and I won't be able to get this achievement because I don't have many of the zone DLCs.

Again, requiring completion of the chapters, that makes total sense and it's fair, since those are the heart of the game's ongoing development. However, having requirements related to all the zone DLCs is just downright unfair. I don't have the money to buy all of them, nor do I have the time to make subbing to ESO Plus a worthwhile investment at this point in my life, so how is it fair that a literal 10-year veteran who played beta isn't going to be able to get this achievement at all unless my life massively changes between now and then?

Please reconsider these requirements, ZOS. I'd even be okay with it requiring all of the pre-Morrowind story DLCs, since most of us have those, but requiring every zone DLC is just too much.

Bad take in my opinion.

We, as players, are not entitled to anything, regardless of how long we’ve played the game. If you’ve showed the support and monetary support of the game over the years, either by an ESO plus membership or purchasing each individual zone in its entirety, then great! This achievement is for you.

With your mentality, I should be able to have the godslayer title and mount given that I have completed Elsweyr’s story. It’s just a funny way of thinking. Achievements require doing specific content whether that be story, group content, etc. You haven’t done the smaller zone DLC content, so why would you qualify to earn the achievement?

Plus, it’s not temporary. Should you decide to get a month of ESO plus or purchase these in the future, it’s always there waiting for you.

loveeso · May 14

Elsonso wrote: »

jaekobcaed wrote: »

Fair point about the Gold Road that is included. It is definitely beyond the 10.

The "10 years" covers console launch, too. That was not until June 2015, making an anniversary span of 15 months. That means that the next two Chapters will likely be within that window. Just the messenger.

The game was released in April 2014, so the ‘decade of quests’ concludes in April 2024. The subsequent release dates for the ports on other platforms like PlayStation or Xbox (which are now dying by the way), do not alter this fact. Additionally, the inclusion of the June expansion and the lack of a completion requirement for later DLCs to be released in 2024/25 demonstrate that that explanation is inconsistent with reality. All this indicates that it is not so much a milestone for a decade of quests, but rather just another ‘incentive’ to prompt the eager fans to pre-purchase or buy at full price, instead of waiting a few months to purchase the expansion for less than 20% of its original price. Do they have to buy it? Of course not. Is that an incentive that will cause some to buy it? Yes, it is.

On the other hand, what you wrote suggests another great marketing ploy: let's release a port for the Nintendo Switch and extend the requirement to include all DLCs and expansions that will be released before 2034. 😆

sharquez · May 14

It really isn't too much. it's a grand achievement that rewards those who were in it for the long haul and saw the wonderful stories the game has to offer. It's not a mandatory chore. its a reward for a game well loved.

jaws343 · May 14

loveeso wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

jaekobcaed wrote: »

Fair point about the Gold Road that is included. It is definitely beyond the 10.

The "10 years" covers console launch, too. That was not until June 2015, making an anniversary span of 15 months. That means that the next two Chapters will likely be within that window. Just the messenger.

The game was released in April 2014, so the ‘decade of quests’ concludes in April 2024. The subsequent release dates for the ports on other platforms like PlayStation or Xbox (which are now dying by the way), do not alter this fact. Additionally, the inclusion of the June expansion and the lack of a completion requirement for later DLCs to be released in 2024/25 demonstrate that that explanation is inconsistent with reality. All this indicates that it is not so much a milestone for a decade of quests, but rather just another ‘incentive’ to prompt the eager fans to pre-purchase or buy at full price, instead of waiting a few months to purchase the expansion for less than 20% of its original price. Do they have to buy it? Of course not. Is that an incentive that will cause some to buy it? Yes, it is.

On the other hand, what you wrote suggests another great marketing ploy: let's release a port for the Nintendo Switch and extend the requirement to include all DLCs and expansions that will be released before 2034. 😆

They have literally said the next 2 years of the game are considered their 10 year anniversary window. It's been no secret and lines up with both PC and console launches.

This achievement is not forcing anyone to do anything. And literally next year they can get the chapter as DLC if they don't want to pay for it, which includes being able to get it with gold or being able to get it as part of ESO+.

Console is definitely not dying.

Elsonso · May 14

Blood_again wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

The "10 years" covers console launch, too. That was not until June 2015, making an anniversary span of 15 months. That means that the next two Chapters will likely be within that window. Just the messenger.

Nice stretch Well, it may work.
I still think it is all about marketing. Don't get me wrong. I don't blame them. It would be strange to miss the opportunity to sell more with it.

The anniversary seems to be a lot about engagement. Yes, I am confident they are interested in money and selling things

, but things like this achievement are also about engagement. Playing the game. If they just wanted to sell product, they could just give a reward for purchasing all DLC (not free with ESO Plus). I am sure a lot of people would buy Chapter Upgrades and Crowns just to do that.

Stafford197 · May 14

ESO has over 1,300 achievements to unlock…. If you’re missing some DLC zones then wait for a free ESO+ week to go get it done, or subscribe for a month or two.

The achievement is for completing the storyline of all zones…. And you’re asking them to remove the requirements only for the zones that you haven’t finished. [snip]

[edited for baiting]

Dalsinthus · May 14

Oy these threads and this forum. It's "unfair" when the devs add an achievement available to everyone that completes base game, chapter, and DLC questing content. It's not technically a 10 year reward when it includes content from time point 10.2 years (sorry I didn't bother take it to a 2nd or 3rd significant digit). SMH

Blood_again · May 14

Elsonso wrote: »

The anniversary seems to be a lot about engagement. Yes, I am confident they are interested in money and selling things , but things like this achievement are also about engagement. Playing the game. If they just wanted to sell product, they could just give a reward for purchasing all DLC (not free with ESO Plus). I am sure a lot of people would buy Chapter Upgrades and Crowns just to do that.

I agree.
Even the latest giveaways, like Orsinium costumes, TG mount, and house guests were linked to achievements, required some ingame activity.
Honestly, the day they give a reward for "how much you bought" would be the beginning of the end.

FelisCatus · May 14

It may not be fair to newer players but all this game does is cater to newer players whilst veteran players rarely get anything. It's nice that finally I'll get something.

loveeso · May 14

Elsonso wrote: »

Blood_again wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

The "10 years" covers console launch, too. That was not until June 2015, making an anniversary span of 15 months. That means that the next two Chapters will likely be within that window. Just the messenger.

Nice stretch Well, it may work.
I still think it is all about marketing. Don't get me wrong. I don't blame them. It would be strange to miss the opportunity to sell more with it.

The anniversary seems to be a lot about engagement. Yes, I am confident they are interested in money and selling things , but things like this achievement are also about engagement. Playing the game. If they just wanted to sell product, they could just give a reward for purchasing all DLC (not free with ESO Plus).

That’s why many of us consider it ‘just another incentive,’ namely, one of several tactics ZOS employs to maximize their profits—not the only one. They do give rewards for (pre-)purchasing, but offering only such ‘achievements’ generates bad press. Therefore, it’s better to devise tactics that do increase sales but are presented as participation awards like this one, yet still incentivise some customers to spend more money (in this case, those who are impatient and don’t want to wait).

Juju_beans · May 14

We've had how many "free ESO+" weekends ?
If you really want it then make good use of those free weekends.

NoticeMeArkay · May 14

It's not too much, it's not unfair to newer players. It's not temporary either.
It's an achievement that grants you a skin visually not related to the expenses at all which requires nothing else but playing the game. Not to do it quick. Not to be good at it. Just play it however you want till the last release.

With dozens of free2play weekends, old dlcs being added to the base game each year and only akatosh knows how many 5€ codes for the collector's editions out there which nobody claims to be using....

...it's a walk in the park which only requires you to sit down and move your fingers.

RicAlmighty · May 14

We just had this thread?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/658566/10-year-anniversary-achievement-is-too-much#latest

ZOS_Icy · May 14

Greetings,

With there already being a thread opened on this subject here, we're going to go ahead and close this one down.

Thank you for understanding.