So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
necro_the_crafter wrote: »Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
If NB is so bad just switch to necro then, most useful group class ever made I guess
Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
NB is super OP right now. That's why there are so many running around, both in groups and solo. Nerfing the strongest outstanding class is what is supposed to happen during balancing updates. And as I pointed out in my earlier post, RoA and other free pull sets shouldn't exist in the first place. They're just [snip], unfair design.
Even after the update NB will still be far stronger than Necro's and Templars.
Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
NB is super OP right now. That's why there are so many running around, both in groups and solo. Nerfing the strongest outstanding class is what is supposed to happen during balancing updates. And as I pointed out in my earlier post, RoA and other free pull sets shouldn't exist in the first place. They're just [snip], unfair design.
Even after the update NB will still be far stronger than Necro's and Templars.
Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
NB is super OP right now. That's why there are so many running around, both in groups and solo. Nerfing the strongest outstanding class is what is supposed to happen during balancing updates. And as I pointed out in my earlier post, RoA and other free pull sets shouldn't exist in the first place. They're just [snip], unfair design.
Even after the update NB will still be far stronger than Necro's and Templars.
necro_the_crafter wrote: »Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
If NB is so bad just switch to necro then, most useful group class ever made I guess
Necro is needed both in PvE and PvP groups while in next patch NB will not be(Necro still will be)
necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
If NB is so bad just switch to necro then, most useful group class ever made I guess
Necro is needed both in PvE and PvP groups while in next patch NB will not be(Necro still will be)
why exactly necros needed? what is there in the game that every other class cant do better than necromancer?
necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
If NB is so bad just switch to necro then, most useful group class ever made I guess
Necro is needed both in PvE and PvP groups while in next patch NB will not be(Necro still will be)
why exactly necros needed? what is there in the game that every other class cant do better than necromancer?
Perfect EC uptime and best source of major vulnerability
TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »You act like everyone even uses the fear effect, guess what they don't and rushing agony looks meh, it's no Pillar of Nirn.
[snip]
[snip]
necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
If NB is so bad just switch to necro then, most useful group class ever made I guess
Necro is needed both in PvE and PvP groups while in next patch NB will not be(Necro still will be)
why exactly necros needed? what is there in the game that every other class cant do better than necromancer?
Perfect EC uptime and best source of major vulnerability
EC necro is gone next patch, and colossus that is bad dd ult because it does little damage or a bad support ult that has 0 utility outside of major vuln that easy to keep with two Item sets... buff nb to the point when class identity would be a single buff and 1(out of six quadrillion item sets) item set
> NB is useless
> literally just one of the very niche buffs become slightly more common and one niche pvp set nerfed
From title I thought every class get invisibility through scrying (which would be great) and then this…
The most absurd they nerfed my build post I ever saw.
necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
If NB is so bad just switch to necro then, most useful group class ever made I guess
Necro is needed both in PvE and PvP groups while in next patch NB will not be(Necro still will be)
why exactly necros needed? what is there in the game that every other class cant do better than necromancer?
Perfect EC uptime and best source of major vulnerability
EC necro is gone next patch, and colossus that is bad dd ult because it does little damage or a bad support ult that has 0 utility outside of major vuln that easy to keep with two Item sets... buff nb to the point when class identity would be a single buff and 1(out of six quadrillion item sets) item set
Good luck uptiming vulnerablity with TT and AD in AoE fights lol. And how is it EC necro gone. You don't know what you are talking about
necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
If NB is so bad just switch to necro then, most useful group class ever made I guess
Necro is needed both in PvE and PvP groups while in next patch NB will not be(Necro still will be)
why exactly necros needed? what is there in the game that every other class cant do better than necromancer?
Perfect EC uptime and best source of major vulnerability
EC necro is gone next patch, and colossus that is bad dd ult because it does little damage or a bad support ult that has 0 utility outside of major vuln that easy to keep with two Item sets... buff nb to the point when class identity would be a single buff and 1(out of six quadrillion item sets) item set
Good luck uptiming vulnerablity with TT and AD in AoE fights lol. And how is it EC necro gone. You don't know what you are talking about
evryone could run ec efficiently next patch so so called good class becomes less good and i wonder why, maybe because its a bad class carried by exactly one item set? and you didnt say how necro is better at pvp then nightblade
CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »No one else going to comment on the very wrong notion that Rush will be a "dead set"? Because it won't be. It's getting nerfed, but they're only making it avoidable like DC is - DC still sees plenty of use, and Rush will still be much better than DC by the sheer fact that it still won't apply CC immunity.
necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »necro_the_crafter wrote: »Except NB remains one of if not the strongest classes in PvP, with the most diverse toolkit to work with and the strongest burst heal and strongest burst damage in the game, and cloak too.
Free pull sets like RoA should have never existed in the first place. Free pull sets are bad game design. Anything that moves another players position on the map should require a skill slot and cost resources.So in this update you are taking away 2 only things that made NB at least somewhat useful. Rushing agony is now a dead set so you don't really need NB in groups anymore and on top of that with the new scribing mechanic everyone will be able to apply Major Cowardice debuff, making PvE NB healers completely useless and hammering the last nail into the NB's PvP group puller build coffin(it is the only possible build that is good for NB in group pvp) . Mind giving something in return..?
Have any of your red my post at all? With new update NB will be COMPLETELY useless both in group PvE and group PvP(which are 2 most important aspects of the game), there is no class that is in a similar state and you think that NB being decent in solo PvP makes up for it?
If NB is so bad just switch to necro then, most useful group class ever made I guess
Necro is needed both in PvE and PvP groups while in next patch NB will not be(Necro still will be)
why exactly necros needed? what is there in the game that every other class cant do better than necromancer?
Perfect EC uptime and best source of major vulnerability
EC necro is gone next patch, and colossus that is bad dd ult because it does little damage or a bad support ult that has 0 utility outside of major vuln that easy to keep with two Item sets... buff nb to the point when class identity would be a single buff and 1(out of six quadrillion item sets) item set
Good luck uptiming vulnerablity with TT and AD in AoE fights lol. And how is it EC necro gone. You don't know what you are talking about
evryone could run ec efficiently next patch so so called good class becomes less good and i wonder why, maybe because its a bad class carried by exactly one item set? and you didnt say how necro is better at pvp then nightblade
No they won't, uptiming EC with single target direct skills isn't effective and is damage loss, besides you still need necro anyway. Necro is better in PvP because it has good damage synergy and must have ulti, NB will not have anything as close as good in next patch
CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »No one else going to comment on the very wrong notion that Rush will be a "dead set"? Because it won't be. It's getting nerfed, but they're only making it avoidable like DC is - DC still sees plenty of use, and Rush will still be much better than DC by the sheer fact that it still won't apply CC immunity.
It will only be fine against weak players with slow reaction
TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »You act like everyone even uses the fear effect, guess what they don't and rushing agony looks meh, it's no Pillar of Nirn.
[snip]
[snip]
In what world does he live if he compares set that was a complete gamechanger to outdated PvE set that meant nothing to the game