My disappointment is immeasurable, and my Jubilee is ruined.

Wiseau

In all honesty, this event left a very bad taste in my mouth. Near impossible drop rates for 5 pages that many people spent days and days and never saw a single one, but PTS people got it handed over for nothing. Yes, it sucks they got locked out, but to give them the style pages while you had thousands of people grinding countless hours and never seeing one? That is messed up [snip]. On top of 16k endeavors, that is like 5+ months of doing endeavors every day and week, for being out of the game a few days. Why are you pandering and catering to the minority group who was affected? Is it because they were streamers and you wanted the good publicity?

Then you promise us 2 days of extension because you took servers down for 8+ hours (after 3 days of maintenance already), but you cut off the NA servers from the last 4 hours, with very little warning (less than 24 hours). No compensation for us? Not even an apology? You booted us off at exactly reset time. I know a lot of people who didn't get their last tickets. I barely had 4 seconds to spare after I got my tickets. Who in their right mind honestly thought that was a good idea? Scheduling another maintenance on last day of event? Exactly at daily reset? Meanwhile all the other servers are still up and running, enjoying the full extension of the event. Why didn't we get another extension? You disable the crown store and Impresario before the servers even went down to prevent people from buying the confetti packs for the mount. [snip] And then you blunder again and screw up other people's accounts who weren't even affected by the PTS ordeal. Who is running this game?

[snip]

/end rant
[edited for bashing]

TKo_ROUSE

Wiseau wrote: »

In all honesty, this event left a very bad taste in my mouth. Near impossible drop rates for 5 pages that many people spent days and days and never saw a single one, but PTS people got it handed over for nothing. Yes, it sucks they got locked out, but to give them the style pages while you had thousands of people grinding countless hours and never seeing one? That is messed up [snip]. On top of 16k endeavors, that is like 5+ months of doing endeavors every day and week, for being out of the game a few days. Why are you pandering and catering to the minority group who was affected? Is it because they were streamers and you wanted the good publicity?

Then you promise us 2 days of extension because you took servers down for 8+ hours (after 3 days of maintenance already), but you cut off the NA servers from the last 4 hours, with very little warning (less than 24 hours). No compensation for us? Not even an apology? You booted us off at exactly reset time. I know a lot of people who didn't get their last tickets. I barely had 4 seconds to spare after I got my tickets. Who in their right mind honestly thought that was a good idea? Scheduling another maintenance on last day of event? Exactly at daily reset? Meanwhile all the other servers are still up and running, enjoying the full extension of the event. Why didn't we get another extension? You disable the crown store and Impresario before the servers even went down to prevent people from buying the confetti packs for the mount. [snip] And then you blunder again and screw up other people's accounts who weren't even affected by the PTS ordeal. Who is running this game?

[snip]

/end rant

Oh great here we go again.

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huntgod_ESO

Why are you folks targeting other players and not keeping your ire centered where it belongs, on ZoS and the guys who set these drop rates and created the situation that resulted with so many folks being locked out.

Nerouyn

Wiseau wrote: »

but PTS people got it handed over for nothing.

You can't call having your characters deleted on the live server, being issued false ban notifications and then being locked out of playing while they fixed it nothing.

And be taken seriously.

Many who wanted those rewards and either got them or not, might gladly have traded places. But to say they suffered nothing is objectively wrong.

Also, "PTS people" aren't an exclusive group.

Anyone with an active ESO account can download the PTS client and play.

kargen27

"but PTS people got it handed over for nothing."

and that affect you in no way whatsoever. If the PTS problem hadn't happened you would have had to do the content to get the drops. The game was available and working as intended for you, me and many others. Nothing for us changed. We got to play the game just as we wanted.
The rewards others got doesn't hurt you or your game play in any way.

Wiseau

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

Why are you folks targeting other players and not keeping your ire centered where it belongs, on ZoS and the guys who set these drop rates and created the situation that resulted with so many folks being locked out.

I'm not throwing shade at the people who were affected, I'm simply pointing out how dumb it was of Zos to mess up in the first place, and then have part of the compensation be the entire 5 pages while there are thousands of people who spent the entire event grinding for them and not getting a single one. They made the drop rates so impossibly high a majority of people didn't get most, if any, of them while they gave them away to others. It is unfair to the people who spent their time actively trying to get it is all I'm saying. No hate to any players. Zos messed up bad, but their way of remedying it was all wrong. That's it.

HatchetHaro

Wiseau wrote: »

Near impossible drop rates for 5 pages that many people spent days and days and never saw a single one, but PTS people got it handed over for nothing. Yes, it sucks they got locked out, but to give them the style pages while you had thousands of people grinding countless hours and never seeing one? That is messed up [snip]

Apparently "getting locked-out of your account on all servers for 10 days and forced to miss out on hundreds of millions of gold value in loot and the opportunity to grind for the style pages like the rest of the people" is "nothing" now. Good to know.

Wiseau wrote: »

On top of 16k endeavors, that is like 5+ months of doing endeavors every day and week, for being out of the game a few days. Why are you pandering and catering to the minority group who was affected? Is it because they were streamers and you wanted the good publicity?

We didn't ask for the 16k Seals of Endeavour; we asked for fair compensation for all the loot and rewards we lost. Secondly, while yes, a good chunk of them were streamers, the main determining factor in them trying to give us this much is to entice us to return to the PTS to keep giving them feedback, feedback that will hopefully be used to give you a much better experience once the content hits Live.

Pandering? I wish I was "pandered to".

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Wiseau

kargen27 wrote: »

"but PTS people got it handed over for nothing."

and that affect you in no way whatsoever. If the PTS problem hadn't happened you would have had to do the content to get the drops. The game was available and working as intended for you, me and many others. Nothing for us changed. We got to play the game just as we wanted.
The rewards others got doesn't hurt you or your game play in any way.

Of course it doesn't "hurt me", but to have at least 80% of your players spending literally days grinding the same bosses over and over again, doing the same thing day in and out, and still not getting it is the problem is my point. You can't make something damn near impossible to get, and then hand them out as compensation to a few small amount of players. That is the problem. The only real compensation that would have benefited everyone fairly is to simply extend the event the duration of what players were locked out. A week minimum would be fair. Not just give them the style pages simply because they couldn't play. But they won't, because then we could get the mount for free and nobody would need to spend tickets, or buy crowns for more tickets. They screwed over more players by pandering to the minority of people affected by THEIR mistakes. Why should the rest of us be punished because they screwed up?

Wiseau

Nerouyn wrote: »

Wiseau wrote: »

but PTS people got it handed over for nothing.

You can't call having your characters deleted on the live server, being issued false ban notifications and then being locked out of playing while they fixed it nothing.

And be taken seriously.

Many who wanted those rewards and either got them or not, might gladly have traded places. But to say they suffered nothing is objectively wrong.

Also, "PTS people" aren't an exclusive group.

Anyone with an active ESO account can download the PTS client and play.

Never did I ever say the didn't suffer anything. Of course missing out on the event sucks, that was said in the first few sentences. I also said to extend the event instead of handing over near impossible to get style pages, while thousands of people farmed for days and never saw one. Also, in the topic of what happened, "PTS people" *obviously* refers to people affected by the PTS ban wave.

tomofhyrule

Wiseau wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

"but PTS people got it handed over for nothing."

and that affect you in no way whatsoever. If the PTS problem hadn't happened you would have had to do the content to get the drops. The game was available and working as intended for you, me and many others. Nothing for us changed. We got to play the game just as we wanted.
The rewards others got doesn't hurt you or your game play in any way.

Of course it doesn't "hurt me", but to have at least 80% of your players spending literally days grinding the same bosses over and over again, doing the same thing day in and out, and still not getting it is the problem is my point. You can't make something damn near impossible to get, and then hand them out as compensation to a few small amount of players. That is the problem. The only real compensation that would have benefited everyone fairly is to simply extend the event the duration of what players were locked out. A week minimum would be fair. Not just give them the style pages simply because they couldn't play. But they won't, because then we could get the mount for free and nobody would need to spend tickets, or buy crowns for more tickets. They screwed over more players by pandering to the minority of people affected by THEIR mistakes. Why should the rest of us be punished because they screwed up?

So, what if one of the people locked out from the PTS had already gotten all five pages before the lockout? Would that be acceptable, or would you still say that they didn't deserve to have them?

Because that's actually fairly common. I know it's the case for me (got Trueflame on the 4th of April, Barbas on the 6th, Sunna'rah on the 7th, Worms on the 8th, and then spent a week on geysers until Ul'vor finally dropped on the 13th). Yes, farming sucked because I literally did not get boxes because I was hard focusing the pages until I finished. That means I essentially missed the entire event and never really took advantage of box farming or the XP benefits. I know a bunch of other people caught in the lockout don't care about cosmetics at all. In fact, a fair number of the people who will be getting the pages neither asked for them nor can use them in the first place because of one of the above reasons. Is it their fault that they're getting them then?

And I know the anecdotal statistics thread also had a bunch of people who got all five in less than 100 pulls each. Do they also not deserve to have gotten them because they got them quickly and others needed the full 20 day event and still got nothing? I have a guildmate who got all 5 pages done in the first two days of the event because RNG was on his side.

There's a fine line between "I'm annoyed at the game since RNG was not on my side" and "I'm annoyed at other people since they got better luck than I did," and lately this forum has really been sitting on the wrong side of it.

afkpro

just on the recent maintenance. waiting a few more hours so the majority could get their last event dailies in would not have hurt in the slightest. a few more hours whilst the players who have been locked are getting compensated generously for it anyways. this goes to the op's point and criticism of zos. like what are they doing, especially since they aren't doing year long adventures anymore lol?

Wiseau

afkpro wrote: »

just on the recent maintenance. waiting a few more hours so the majority could get their last event dailies in would not have hurt in the slightest. a few more hours whilst the players who have been locked are getting compensated generously for it anyways. this goes to the op's point and criticism of zos. like what are they doing, especially since they aren't doing year long adventures anymore lol?

Yes, that was a point I forgot to include. Simply waiting 4 hours for maintenance would make no difference to people who were already locked out, unable to play the event. They didn't extend the event anyways, so it's not like they're missing any more of the event.

Wiseau

tomofhyrule wrote: »

There's a fine line between "I'm annoyed at the game since RNG was not on my side" and "I'm annoyed at other people since they got better luck than I did," and lately this forum has really been sitting on the wrong side of it.

Okay, a few of you are misinterpreting my post. My anger isn't directed at the players. Never did I accuse them of anything. Multiple times I've said yes it sucks. Yes they need fair compensation. Giving them the style pages isn't fair compensation. The only fair compensation is extending the event for the time they missed. No anger or shade directed at the players. Zos is the problem. I know that. They went about the wrong way of making up for their mistakes, by making even more people angry.

Sure, to state getting locked out as "nothing" is an overstatement. I get that.

colossalvoids

Was apparent that a lot of folks would be angry with such compensation, especially when previous issues went without any. Honestly it would make way more sense to get them free chapter and some ESO plus rather than stuff some people didn't get whole event 25/8 it. Idk if that's what locked out peeps would also prefer but seems more logical for a company to not get more backlash from ones "celebrating".

EdjeSwift

Emphasis mine:

Wiseau wrote: »

Yes they need fair compensation. Giving them the style pages isn't fair compensation. The only fair compensation is extending the event for the time they missed.

Let's take a step back and look at this from another perspective.

Let's say you were locked out of your house for 11 days because your landlord did something and you couldn't get home to your possessions. You'd be okay with your compensation for being left out of your house being the landlord saying, "Okay, you don't have to pay rent for 11 days"? Not considering the expense of having no where to live(play), your electricity bill going up because you had anything plugged in(ESO+ running/canceled), and the anguish of not knowing if/when you were going to get into your place again?

Because that's exactly what you're advocating.

Wiseau

EdjeSwift wrote: »

Emphasis mine:

Wiseau wrote: »

Yes they need fair compensation. Giving them the style pages isn't fair compensation. The only fair compensation is extending the event for the time they missed.

Let's take a step back and look at this from another perspective.

Let's say you were locked out of your house for 11 days because your landlord did something and you couldn't get home to your possessions. You'd be okay with your compensation for being left out of your house being the landlord saying, "Okay, you don't have to pay rent for 11 days"? Not considering the expense of having no where to live(play), your electricity bill going up because you had anything plugged in(ESO+ running/canceled), and the anguish of not knowing if/when you were going to get into your place again?

Because that's exactly what you're advocating.

Sorry, I can't take this analogy seriously. In no way can I correlate playing a game to being locked out of your house; that is too farfetched.

People being locked out of their account aren't suddenly "homeless". Yes, it sucks. I also understand this is basically the only game they play. They were compensated more than enough with a whole MONTH of ESO+ for not even 2 weeks of being suspended. I'm glad they also got more things like the boxes and whatnot. However, the 16k seals and the 5 style pages was too far. That is handing over days and days of farming for the pages, and at least 5 months of daily and weekly endeavors.

Again, I am not angry at the players for being compensated. I am angry at Zos for going way to heavy handed with the compensations, while the players who actually were playing and farming left the event empty handed. Zos screwed up, and they continued screwing up in the way they tried handling things. The compensation is just a *small* part, look at the bigger picture: Screwed up so badly on the PTS resulting in ban waves and servers going down for 8+ hours, already giving us 3 days of maintenance beforehand, "promising" us 2 days of extension, and cutting off the last 4 hours of the event at EXACTLY reset time, preventing thousands of people from getting their last 3 tickets and last minute boxes, with very little heads up (not even 24 hours between the notice and servers going down). They are treating us like garbage just to pander to a small, small group of people.

People are getting hung up on the compensation part. Move past it and realize it's not the main issue here, but is still part of the problem.

MidniteOwl1913

Wiseau wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

There's a fine line between "I'm annoyed at the game since RNG was not on my side" and "I'm annoyed at other people since they got better luck than I did," and lately this forum has really been sitting on the wrong side of it.

Okay, a few of you are misinterpreting my post. My anger isn't directed at the players. Never did I accuse them of anything. Multiple times I've said yes it sucks. Yes they need fair compensation. Giving them the style pages isn't fair compensation. The only fair compensation is extending the event for the time they missed. No anger or shade directed at the players. Zos is the problem. I know that. They went about the wrong way of making up for their mistakes, by making even more people angry.

Sure, to state getting locked out as "nothing" is an overstatement. I get that.

ANd given that they event can't be extended for just a handful of players what do you think is fair compensation for missing half the event?

Ingroll

You are missing the point. The locked-out players are the prerequisite for you to have the possibility to play the game. If they hadn't received good compensation, none of them would have voluntarily tested on the PTS again. So don't look at this as compensation for missing the event only. The point is those individuals are helping to find bugs on the PTS so other players can enjoy the game.

Wiseau

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

Wiseau wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

There's a fine line between "I'm annoyed at the game since RNG was not on my side" and "I'm annoyed at other people since they got better luck than I did," and lately this forum has really been sitting on the wrong side of it.

Okay, a few of you are misinterpreting my post. My anger isn't directed at the players. Never did I accuse them of anything. Multiple times I've said yes it sucks. Yes they need fair compensation. Giving them the style pages isn't fair compensation. The only fair compensation is extending the event for the time they missed. No anger or shade directed at the players. Zos is the problem. I know that. They went about the wrong way of making up for their mistakes, by making even more people angry.

Sure, to state getting locked out as "nothing" is an overstatement. I get that.

ANd given that they event can't be extended for just a handful of players what do you think is fair compensation for missing half the event?

I didn't say extend it for just a handful of players. Extend it for everybody, by the duration of how many days people were locked out. If people were locked out for 5 days, 5 more days of event for everyone. 10 days, etc. Just look at the longest locked person, and extend the event that many days.

I'm not trying to single any person or group out. We all should get an extension of the event. Simple as that. Not a single person would be upset by a longer Jubilee, therefore it is the only logical compensation, along with what was already missed from dailies and reimbursed for missing ESO+ days. Not 16k endeavors, not giving them the collection of style pages. Again, just for clarification, I am not angry at the players for getting compensated. I am angry at Zos for how they handled things.

evymyu233

EdjeSwift wrote: »

Emphasis mine:

Wiseau wrote: »

Yes they need fair compensation. Giving them the style pages isn't fair compensation. The only fair compensation is extending the event for the time they missed.

Let's take a step back and look at this from another perspective.

Let's say you were locked out of your house for 11 days because your landlord did something and you couldn't get home to your possessions. You'd be okay with your compensation for being left out of your house being the landlord saying, "Okay, you don't have to pay rent for 11 days"? Not considering the expense of having no where to live(play), your electricity bill going up because you had anything plugged in(ESO+ running/canceled), and the anguish of not knowing if/when you were going to get into your place again?

Because that's exactly what you're advocating.

Do you live in ESO 24 hours a day?Do you have no job, friends, or other entertainment?You can find something else to do, after all, the main content of this event is boring farming.

MidniteOwl1913

Honestly I don't understand why the style page thing is such a sticking point. As many have pointed out the loss of the purple boxes with their wealth of materials remains a serious loss. Did they get the 30 tickets? I don't remember even if they did they didn't get the chance to buy confetti or anything else with them. They missed half the event. That they can never get back. This was especially bad for the content creators.

The drop rate was bad for everyone. I know some players didn't get the full five despite grinding for days, and the PC players got extra time to do that. While the banned people didn't even have the opportunity. Maybe they all would have gotten the pages anyway maybe not. They lost the possibility though no fault of their own. I think giving the style pages is a good start.

amig186

You do realise that the compensation is not just meant to account for losses due to not being able to play, but also act as an apology for it happening in the first place. You ask 'why are you pandering and catering to a small group of players', if you wronged your customers, wouldn't you do your damndest to make it up to them? Missing those 5 ugly style pages really isn't worth throwing a fit over. How would you even propose to extend the event only for those who were locked out? And yes, of course Zos sees you as money, like every company in the world ever. The only part I can agree with is about the maintenance, that was unfortunate timing to say the least.

MidniteOwl1913

Wiseau wrote: »

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

Wiseau wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

There's a fine line between "I'm annoyed at the game since RNG was not on my side" and "I'm annoyed at other people since they got better luck than I did," and lately this forum has really been sitting on the wrong side of it.

Okay, a few of you are misinterpreting my post. My anger isn't directed at the players. Never did I accuse them of anything. Multiple times I've said yes it sucks. Yes they need fair compensation. Giving them the style pages isn't fair compensation. The only fair compensation is extending the event for the time they missed. No anger or shade directed at the players. Zos is the problem. I know that. They went about the wrong way of making up for their mistakes, by making even more people angry.

Sure, to state getting locked out as "nothing" is an overstatement. I get that.

ANd given that they event can't be extended for just a handful of players what do you think is fair compensation for missing half the event?

I didn't say extend it for just a handful of players. Extend it for everybody, by the duration of how many days people were locked out. If people were locked out for 5 days, 5 more days of event for everyone. 10 days, etc. Just look at the longest locked person, and extend the event that many days.

I'm not trying to single any person or group out. We all should get an extension of the event. Simple as that. Not a single person would be upset by a longer Jubilee, therefore it is the only logical compensation, along with what was already missed from dailies and reimbursed for missing ESO+ days. Not 16k endeavors, not giving them the collection of style pages. Again, just for clarification, I am not angry at the players for getting compensated. I am angry at Zos for how they handled things.

ANd by everybody you mean the PC people? Because it ended on Tuesday for us.

This also misses the point that the people who were banned deserve to be given something because they were wronged. To give everyone something dismisses the injury they suffered. That's what would not be fair.

Wiseau

amig186 wrote: »

You do realise that the compensation is not just meant to account for losses due to not being able to play, but also act as an apology for it happening in the first place. You ask 'why are you pandering and catering to a small group of players', if you wronged your customers, wouldn't you do your damndest to make it up to them? Missing those 5 ugly style pages really isn't worth throwing a fit over. How would you even propose to extend the event only for those who were locked out? And yes, of course Zos sees you as money, like every company in the world ever. The only part I can agree with is about the maintenance, that was unfortunate timing to say the least.

More people misunderstanding my post...

Yes, compensate them for their time lost. No, don't just give them the pages. That isn't fair or reasonable compensation. It also isn't the MAIN issue, it is just a small part. Again, I never, ever said to extend it ONLY for the people affected. Extend it for EVERYONE, by the duration of days lost for people. If people were locked for 10 days, then EVERYONE gets 10 more days of event time. That is only fair, logical, and wouldn't upset a single person.

The style pages aren't my issue. It is everything that Zos has done during this event.

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

Wiseau wrote: »

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

Wiseau wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

There's a fine line between "I'm annoyed at the game since RNG was not on my side" and "I'm annoyed at other people since they got better luck than I did," and lately this forum has really been sitting on the wrong side of it.

Okay, a few of you are misinterpreting my post. My anger isn't directed at the players. Never did I accuse them of anything. Multiple times I've said yes it sucks. Yes they need fair compensation. Giving them the style pages isn't fair compensation. The only fair compensation is extending the event for the time they missed. No anger or shade directed at the players. Zos is the problem. I know that. They went about the wrong way of making up for their mistakes, by making even more people angry.

Sure, to state getting locked out as "nothing" is an overstatement. I get that.

ANd given that they event can't be extended for just a handful of players what do you think is fair compensation for missing half the event?

I didn't say extend it for just a handful of players. Extend it for everybody, by the duration of how many days people were locked out. If people were locked out for 5 days, 5 more days of event for everyone. 10 days, etc. Just look at the longest locked person, and extend the event that many days.

I'm not trying to single any person or group out. We all should get an extension of the event. Simple as that. Not a single person would be upset by a longer Jubilee, therefore it is the only logical compensation, along with what was already missed from dailies and reimbursed for missing ESO+ days. Not 16k endeavors, not giving them the collection of style pages. Again, just for clarification, I am not angry at the players for getting compensated. I am angry at Zos for how they handled things.

ANd by everybody you mean the PC people? Because it ended on Tuesday for us.

This also misses the point that the people who were banned deserve to be given something because they were wronged. To give everyone something dismisses the injury they suffered. That's what would not be fair.

Yes, obviously only PC players, because we were the only ones affected by the PTS issue. Console players didn't get locked out, or banned, as far as I know. I also said, if you read, that YES they should be compensated by what they missed out on. Like daily rewards, endeavors, and ESO+ time. They went about compensation the wrong way. AGAIN though, that isn't even my main issue. There are tons of things I said.

amig186

How is it fair for everyone if you get 10 more days than the people who were locked out?

MidniteOwl1913

amig186 wrote: »

How is it fair for everyone if you get 10 more days than the people who were locked out?

Thanks you put it better than I did.

Anumaril

Was compensation quite high? Probably. But honestly... good for them, I'm glad. The drop rates for the pages were awful, and Seals of Endeavour take months to grind for even a decent reward.

I don't think the compensation should've been lower; I think the drop rates should've been higher and SoE quantities per Endeavour should be increased. These are all perfectly within the power of ZOS to do, but they don't.

Wiseau

amig186 wrote: »

How is it fair for everyone if you get 10 more days than the people who were locked out?

It is fair because the people who got locked out get all the time they missed back? I honestly don't understand what kind of question this is lmao. It's also more feasible than going through every single person who got banned and activating the Jubilee event for them. Also because Zos would more than likely screw something up again. They seem to have trouble when it comes down to specific players, ie deleting people's toons while restoring the PTS banned players.

amig186

You don't understand, lmao? They only get the time they lost. You get bonus time. They do not. Your net gain is 10 days, their net gain is 0 days. Simple enough?

Wiseau

amig186 wrote: »

You don't understand, lmao? They only get the time they lost. You get bonus time. They do not. Your net gain is 10 days, their net gain is 0 days. Simple enough?

I don't think you understand what you're saying even lmao. They get what they missed back, including daily login rewards, gold boxes, event tickets, seals, etc. PLUS 10 more days. That is 10 more days for everyone. Got it? lol

If you don't understand that, I can't help you bud. o7

SolarRune

I have no problem with the compensation people got. My issue is with the apparent variability in drop rate. I did get the sword quickly, but following that had 100s of encounters over 8 days and nothing, I found it so depressing and monotonous and it made me seriously consider quitting the game so had to stop before the end of the event. if the drop rate was as rare as I was experiencing, then there should have been no one getting all drops - but there are plenty of people that only spent 3 or 4 hours doing each page - I would have happily done this. (i know that is the gods of RNG but it almost seems too wide a variability to be just RNG)

I just hope these pages are included in future events somehow. Its a real shame that so many regular players have missed out on items they wanted despite putting in the effort of the grind. Maybe more long term low drop rate things would be good for the game - but not based on a single event - maybe over the year?

I think rewards from events should either be
a) if bound moderate chance of dropping, meaning people should only need to run 100 of something to be pretty sure of dropping the special items
b) anything with an extremely low drop rate (like we experienced in the last event) should always be tradeable so that those that can stick 6hrs a day 7 days a week into the game can do so - farm - and use the economy - and others can get access for these items through gold
c) maybe available with crowns after the event (not too sure about this one but feel it needs to be there)