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Magicka Necro ruined.
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Thought I'd come back and catch up before this years DLC. Really hate the new Magicka Morph of blast bones and I don't like using the stamina one because the green doesn't match my other abilities color theme. Please allow a magicka and stamnia version of the previous blast bones. I don't see why they coulden't have just added a third version for those that wanted it. Really sad now because I only like to play a certain way with the visuals all matchings
Xbox GT: Rex Umbrah
GM of IMPERIUM since 2015.
GM of IMPERIUM since 2015.
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OsUfi✭✭✭✭✭
✭We're not ruined, we're just set back a little bit.
There's a really long thread of feedback on the changes here: Linky
Suggest you post there as that thread is being maintained by angry necros, and as such it refuses to die.
Though I'm gonna be honest, I chuckled when I read:I don't like using the stamina one because the green doesn't match my other abilities color theme.
Of all the reasons...
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✭Thought I'd come back and catch up before this years DLC. Really hate the new Magicka Morph of blast bones and I don't like using the stamina one because the green doesn't match my other abilities color theme. Please allow a magicka and stamnia version of the previous blast bones. I don't see why they coulden't have just added a third version for those that wanted it. Really sad now because I only like to play a certain way with the visuals all matchings
Its like they could have just changed a couple of the passives around to achieve same or similar results without having to mess with anything else.Today Victory is mine. Long Live the Empire.1 -
OsUfi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thought I'd come back and catch up before this years DLC. Really hate the new Magicka Morph of blast bones and I don't like using the stamina one because the green doesn't match my other abilities color theme. Please allow a magicka and stamnia version of the previous blast bones. I don't see why they coulden't have just added a third version for those that wanted it. Really sad now because I only like to play a certain way with the visuals all matchings
Its like they could have just changed a couple of the passives around to achieve same or similar results without having to mess with anything else.
Unfortunately the biggest problem necros face is the players. I quite liked necros as they were. The DPS isn't far behind other classes, they were from from a dead class... Pardon the pun... I like the rotation and the way they feel. Aside from in Cyro, I had no issues with Blastbones.
I belive we could have used a couple of small buffs. That's all.
But if you go back a few months or so there was a torrent of a small but angry minority screaming for entire class reworks. Every week another thread. Here and on Reddit. People wanting entire skills changed. Every list of reworks players demanded was different. One thing unified them though, they wanted change.
Well, ZoS heard them. They have begun a class rework. Now, thanks to everyone demanding different things, this class rework they've begun has please (almost) nobody.2 -
moo_2021✭✭✭✭✭I guess they wanted bb rework because they were doing it ranged and just needed a direct hitting skill... But it wont be balanced to have a ranged that hits like crystal frag to have no preconditions and always reliable.
I never encountered any issue with bb on point blank range. It always hits, sometimes right after my enemy dodged my other, weaker attacks Edited by moo_2021 on April 1, 2024 12:49PM1 -
IncultaWolf✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thought I'd come back and catch up before this years DLC. Really hate the new Magicka Morph of blast bones and I don't like using the stamina one because the green doesn't match my other abilities color theme. Please allow a magicka and stamnia version of the previous blast bones. I don't see why they coulden't have just added a third version for those that wanted it. Really sad now because I only like to play a certain way with the visuals all matchings
Its like they could have just changed a couple of the passives around to achieve same or similar results without having to mess with anything else.
Unfortunately the biggest problem necros face is the players. I quite liked necros as they were. The DPS isn't far behind other classes, they were from from a dead class... Pardon the pun... I like the rotation and the way they feel. Aside from in Cyro, I had no issues with Blastbones.
I belive we could have used a couple of small buffs. That's all.
But if you go back a few months or so there was a torrent of a small but angry minority screaming for entire class reworks. Every week another thread. Here and on Reddit. People wanting entire skills changed. Every list of reworks players demanded was different. One thing unified them though, they wanted change.
Well, ZoS heard them. They have begun a class rework. Now, thanks to everyone demanding different things, this class rework they've begun has please (almost) nobody.
The difference being we gave detailed feedback of what we wanted, and didn't want, and EVERYTHING was ignored. This isn't the players fault. Most of us just wanted class major brutality/sorcery 💀2 -
OsUfi✭✭✭✭✭
✭IncultaWolf wrote: »Thought I'd come back and catch up before this years DLC. Really hate the new Magicka Morph of blast bones and I don't like using the stamina one because the green doesn't match my other abilities color theme. Please allow a magicka and stamnia version of the previous blast bones. I don't see why they coulden't have just added a third version for those that wanted it. Really sad now because I only like to play a certain way with the visuals all matchings
Its like they could have just changed a couple of the passives around to achieve same or similar results without having to mess with anything else.
Unfortunately the biggest problem necros face is the players. I quite liked necros as they were. The DPS isn't far behind other classes, they were from from a dead class... Pardon the pun... I like the rotation and the way they feel. Aside from in Cyro, I had no issues with Blastbones.
I belive we could have used a couple of small buffs. That's all.
But if you go back a few months or so there was a torrent of a small but angry minority screaming for entire class reworks. Every week another thread. Here and on Reddit. People wanting entire skills changed. Every list of reworks players demanded was different. One thing unified them though, they wanted change.
Well, ZoS heard them. They have begun a class rework. Now, thanks to everyone demanding different things, this class rework they've begun has please (almost) nobody.
The difference being we gave detailed feedback of what we wanted, and didn't want, and EVERYTHING was ignored. This isn't the players fault.
Everything was not ignored. We had that small and angry minority screaming for a rework for ages. They have begun a rework. However that rework comes will be how ZoS decides because the players cannot agree what they want. Just that they wanted a rework.IncultaWolf wrote: »Most of us just wanted class major brutality/sorcery 💀
And yet in 99% of threads I saw, so much more was demanded than just brutality/sorcery.1 -
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✭IncultaWolf wrote: »Thought I'd come back and catch up before this years DLC. Really hate the new Magicka Morph of blast bones and I don't like using the stamina one because the green doesn't match my other abilities color theme. Please allow a magicka and stamnia version of the previous blast bones. I don't see why they coulden't have just added a third version for those that wanted it. Really sad now because I only like to play a certain way with the visuals all matchings
Its like they could have just changed a couple of the passives around to achieve same or similar results without having to mess with anything else.
Unfortunately the biggest problem necros face is the players. I quite liked necros as they were. The DPS isn't far behind other classes, they were from from a dead class... Pardon the pun... I like the rotation and the way they feel. Aside from in Cyro, I had no issues with Blastbones.
I belive we could have used a couple of small buffs. That's all.
But if you go back a few months or so there was a torrent of a small but angry minority screaming for entire class reworks. Every week another thread. Here and on Reddit. People wanting entire skills changed. Every list of reworks players demanded was different. One thing unified them though, they wanted change.
Well, ZoS heard them. They have begun a class rework. Now, thanks to everyone demanding different things, this class rework they've begun has please (almost) nobody.
The difference being we gave detailed feedback of what we wanted, and didn't want, and EVERYTHING was ignored. This isn't the players fault.
Everything was not ignored. We had that small and angry minority screaming for a rework for ages. They have begun a rework. However that rework comes will be how ZoS decides because the players cannot agree what they want. Just that they wanted a rework.IncultaWolf wrote: »Most of us just wanted class major brutality/sorcery 💀
And yet in 99% of threads I saw, so much more was demanded than just brutality/sorcery.
Everything wasn't ignored? You must have missed the multiple threads and reddit posts and YouTube videos of people saying they didn't want the blastbones change. The entire necromancer playerbase came together to say they did not want this. Now major brutality/sorcery...everyone wants that as necro is the ONLY class in the game without it, and we still don't have it..yet. But I'm fairly certain we will get some really nice reworks/buffs later this year to make up for everything. They even admitted that grave lord's sacrifice isn't where they want it yet, and the data shows most people just swapped to blighted blastbones.3 -
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✭IncultaWolf wrote: »IncultaWolf wrote: »Thought I'd come back and catch up before this years DLC. Really hate the new Magicka Morph of blast bones and I don't like using the stamina one because the green doesn't match my other abilities color theme. Please allow a magicka and stamnia version of the previous blast bones. I don't see why they coulden't have just added a third version for those that wanted it. Really sad now because I only like to play a certain way with the visuals all matchings
Its like they could have just changed a couple of the passives around to achieve same or similar results without having to mess with anything else.
Unfortunately the biggest problem necros face is the players. I quite liked necros as they were. The DPS isn't far behind other classes, they were from from a dead class... Pardon the pun... I like the rotation and the way they feel. Aside from in Cyro, I had no issues with Blastbones.
I belive we could have used a couple of small buffs. That's all.
But if you go back a few months or so there was a torrent of a small but angry minority screaming for entire class reworks. Every week another thread. Here and on Reddit. People wanting entire skills changed. Every list of reworks players demanded was different. One thing unified them though, they wanted change.
Well, ZoS heard them. They have begun a class rework. Now, thanks to everyone demanding different things, this class rework they've begun has please (almost) nobody.
The difference being we gave detailed feedback of what we wanted, and didn't want, and EVERYTHING was ignored. This isn't the players fault.
Everything was not ignored. We had that small and angry minority screaming for a rework for ages. They have begun a rework. However that rework comes will be how ZoS decides because the players cannot agree what they want. Just that they wanted a rework.IncultaWolf wrote: »Most of us just wanted class major brutality/sorcery 💀
And yet in 99% of threads I saw, so much more was demanded than just brutality/sorcery.
Everything wasn't ignored?
No, once again, everything was not ignored. I feel like I am repeating myself here. Changes were demanded. We got changes. However these changes come out, the fact change was wanted is something that ZoS categorically did not ignore.
Here we go, this thread, and this thread, and this one too. Necro threads keep raising the subject, but they all have slightly different takes. The point that I'm making is a small but vocal minority kept asking for reworks, we're getting a rework.IncultaWolf wrote: »Now major brutality/sorcery...
Again, repeating myself, that was not the only thing that kept getting demanded. It was one of many things. See threads linked to above. Search the forums, and god help me there are many more.
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✭IncultaWolf wrote: »IncultaWolf wrote: »Thought I'd come back and catch up before this years DLC. Really hate the new Magicka Morph of blast bones and I don't like using the stamina one because the green doesn't match my other abilities color theme. Please allow a magicka and stamnia version of the previous blast bones. I don't see why they coulden't have just added a third version for those that wanted it. Really sad now because I only like to play a certain way with the visuals all matchings
Its like they could have just changed a couple of the passives around to achieve same or similar results without having to mess with anything else.
Unfortunately the biggest problem necros face is the players. I quite liked necros as they were. The DPS isn't far behind other classes, they were from from a dead class... Pardon the pun... I like the rotation and the way they feel. Aside from in Cyro, I had no issues with Blastbones.
I belive we could have used a couple of small buffs. That's all.
But if you go back a few months or so there was a torrent of a small but angry minority screaming for entire class reworks. Every week another thread. Here and on Reddit. People wanting entire skills changed. Every list of reworks players demanded was different. One thing unified them though, they wanted change.
Well, ZoS heard them. They have begun a class rework. Now, thanks to everyone demanding different things, this class rework they've begun has please (almost) nobody.
The difference being we gave detailed feedback of what we wanted, and didn't want, and EVERYTHING was ignored. This isn't the players fault.
Everything was not ignored. We had that small and angry minority screaming for a rework for ages. They have begun a rework. However that rework comes will be how ZoS decides because the players cannot agree what they want. Just that they wanted a rework.IncultaWolf wrote: »Most of us just wanted class major brutality/sorcery 💀
And yet in 99% of threads I saw, so much more was demanded than just brutality/sorcery.
Everything wasn't ignored?
No, once again, everything was not ignored. I feel like I am repeating myself here. Changes were demanded. We got changes. However these changes come out, the fact change was wanted is something that ZoS categorically did not ignore.
Here we go, this thread, and this thread, and this one too. Necro threads keep raising the subject, but they all have slightly different takes. The point that I'm making is a small but vocal minority kept asking for reworks, we're getting a rework.IncultaWolf wrote: »Now major brutality/sorcery...
Again, repeating myself, that was not the only thing that kept getting demanded. It was one of many things. See threads linked to above. Search the forums, and god help me there are many more.
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✭I just hope that improving/fixing GLS doesn't end up taking years for ZOS. I don't really mind Necro having an ''easy'' 20s buff morph option for BB, but at least make it a NORMAL skill, not some delayed unreliable crap that can be affected by CC or LoS.
ZOS should also improve Blighted BB, since that playstyle is now inferior to how it was pre-U41, even considering that Necro is probably the worst PvP class atm and is basically relegated to support and carried by EC in PvE.
ZOS would have avoided like 90% of the backlash if they had replaced Blighted BB instead of Stalking BB and maybe made its cost dynamic so you don't *** off Stamcros.
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Kalle_Demos✭✭✭✭✭The Necromancer has not been in a great state for a while. The destruction of Stalking Blast Bones has certainly not helped and if the goal of this change was to indeed 'relax complex rotations' then that goal was not met.
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