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ESO End Game Community… What is End Game?

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What do you consider end game? Let’s talk!!!
Edited by Vaughndaunted on February 5, 2024 12:37AM
PS4/PS5 NA
Master Crafter
End Gamer
9+ years playing ESO
  • Hapexamendios
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    It's different for every player. For me, vet DLC dungeons and trial. For others PvP, housing etc.
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    fashion, fishing and housing
    miaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).

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  • SilverIce58
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    LunaFlora wrote: »
    fashion, fishing and housing

    1000% agree. Housing is what I spend most of my time and gold on.
    PC - NA
    CP 1125
    Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
    Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
    Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
    Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
    Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
    Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
    Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
    Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
    Iscah Silver-Heart - Reachman Magden DC
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    Collecting stuff: antiquities, lore books, achievements, collections, sticker book.
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    Creating alts, RP, housing and fashion, that's my endgame. I couldn't care less about dungeons, trials, arenas or PvP.
      PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!. Outfit slots not being accountwide is ridiculous given their price. PC EU/PC NA roleplayer and solo PvE quester
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      Housing.
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      I don't have any interest in "end game". I do a lot of stuff, crafting, housing, fishing, exploring. None of it's "end game". I don't care about anyone else's end game.
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      Housing for sure!
      (AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanist
      Electric-Burn/Stun
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      • Damage Dealing Build.
      • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Inferno/Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Rage of the Ursauk jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
      • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build), and Power Overload.
      • Ability-Bar 2: Crushing Shock/Storm Pulsar, Streak, Flame/Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Fire/Storms, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build) and Fiery/Thunderous Rage.
      Electric-Heal
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      • My Healer Build.
      • Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
      • Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
      • Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
      Electric-Ward
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      • My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
      • Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Mother Ciannait's (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Max Mag Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (arcane with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), CP restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and CP ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
      • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
      • Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
      Electric-Vamp
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      • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
      • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact for regular and NoCP build/Oblivion's Foe for dot build (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable. Max Mag Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Max Mag Enchants). Knight Slayer/Pariah jewelry/Plaguebreak for dot build (arcane with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant for regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build. Sharpened for dot build)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build).
      • Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
      • Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Empowered Ward, and Shatter Soul.
      Dawnfang
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      • My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that only utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
      • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (Infused/shock enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both arcane with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring.
      • Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward, and Crescent Sweep.
      Duskfang
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      • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
      • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on head and everything else Magicka Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Max Health Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant/Stealth-Draining Poison IX), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both arcane with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Arcane with Spell Damage Enchant).
      • Ability-Bar 1:Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver (Shatter Soul).
      PvE Starter Gear
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      • Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
      • Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
      Race
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      • High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
      Mundus Stones
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      • PvP: The Lover for penetration when playing a sorc or temp.
      • PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
      • PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
      Current Champion Points
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      • DPS Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Thaumaturge, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
      • Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
      • Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
      • PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
      • PvE Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
      • PvP Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
      Favorite Foods and Potions
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      • Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
      • Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
      • Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
      • Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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    • Soarora
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      Housing (requires lots of money and achievements for furnishings), skilled PvP, dungeon and trial hard modes into trifectas. You could consider other things personal endgames but as far as I can think those four are the only ones with endgame communities.

      There is the solo endgame community too but as far as I have heard it's very small. By solo I mean solo arenas and soloing dungeon HMs/tris.
      Edited by Soarora on February 5, 2024 2:23AM
      PC/NA Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS/Heal), Trialist (DPS/Tank/Heal), and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore
    • SeaGtGruff
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      For me, end game will be when I finally decide to min/max my builds, get the "right" BIS/META gear, set up my skill bars and CP bars with the "right" skills and perks, and practice my rotations on a game controller until they're automatic, so I can solo more difficult content and start doing vet content and trials.
      I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
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      Anyone who has invested a lot of time into the aspect of the game they enjoy AND are knowledgeable/skilled at it. For PVE it goes without saying anyone who goes for trifectas or scorepushes/speedruns. For PVP it's going to be very contentious who is actually 'good' at it. For housing/fashion it would be the people who have encyclopedic knowledge of the styles/furnishings in the game and are able to combine them to be a greater than a sum of their parts. There's some houses out there which are just so much more well crafted than most. Lots of houses/outfits which are just a mismash of credit card swiped items. Even for RP-ers, some have the gift of gab and improv while others do not. There's also the trading endgamers, not just people who make a couple of million a week but those who buy up entire stocks of items on a server whose sales volumes are in the hundreds of millions. Honourable mention to TOT players, those who consistently hit that top 10 every season.
      Edited by kevkj on February 5, 2024 2:26AM
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      SeaGtGruff wrote: »
      For me, end game will be when I finally decide to min/max my builds, get the "right" BIS/META gear, set up my skill bars and CP bars with the "right" skills and perks, and practice my rotations on a game controller until they're automatic, so I can solo more difficult content and start doing vet content and trials.

      For me.... that's not only "NEVER" but hell no NOT ever. DID that in WoW and RIFT. Never doing it again. It wasn't "rewarding" in any way at all. And it contributed in a major way to me leaving both games.

      NOT FUN. For me. YMMV.
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      But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending.

      PC NA, PC EU (non steam)- three accounts, many alts....
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      TaSheen wrote: »
      SeaGtGruff wrote: »
      For me, end game will be when I finally decide to min/max my builds, get the "right" BIS/META gear, set up my skill bars and CP bars with the "right" skills and perks, and practice my rotations on a game controller until they're automatic, so I can solo more difficult content and start doing vet content and trials.

      For me.... that's not only "NEVER" but hell no NOT ever. DID that in WoW and RIFT. Never doing it again. It wasn't "rewarding" in any way at all. And it contributed in a major way to me leaving both games.

      NOT FUN. For me. YMMV.

      I have no experience with any other MMOs besides ESO, but I pretty much agree with you, which is why I still haven't done any of that despite having been playing since shortly after TESO:Morrowind came out. If I ever do decide to do that, it will be because I really did decide to finish the game and move on to other things.
      I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
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      SeaGtGruff wrote: »
      TaSheen wrote: »
      SeaGtGruff wrote: »
      For me, end game will be when I finally decide to min/max my builds, get the "right" BIS/META gear, set up my skill bars and CP bars with the "right" skills and perks, and practice my rotations on a game controller until they're automatic, so I can solo more difficult content and start doing vet content and trials.

      For me.... that's not only "NEVER" but hell no NOT ever. DID that in WoW and RIFT. Never doing it again. It wasn't "rewarding" in any way at all. And it contributed in a major way to me leaving both games.

      NOT FUN. For me. YMMV.

      I have no experience with any other MMOs besides ESO, but I pretty much agree with you, which is why I still haven't done any of that despite having been playing since shortly after TESO:Morrowind came out. If I ever do decide to do that, it will be because I really did decide to finish the game and move on to other things.

      Okay. I think I misunderstood your POV. Sorry for going off half-cocked.
      Edited by TaSheen on February 5, 2024 3:42AM
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    • LunaFlora
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      What do you consider end game? Let’s talk!!!

      and what do you consider end game?
      miaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).

      🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
      "Eagles advance, traveler! And may the Green watch and keep you."
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      PlayStation and PC EU.
      LunaLolaBlossom on psn.
      LunaFloraBlossom on pc.
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      TaSheen wrote: »
      SeaGtGruff wrote: »
      TaSheen wrote: »
      SeaGtGruff wrote: »
      For me, end game will be when I finally decide to min/max my builds, get the "right" BIS/META gear, set up my skill bars and CP bars with the "right" skills and perks, and practice my rotations on a game controller until they're automatic, so I can solo more difficult content and start doing vet content and trials.

      For me.... that's not only "NEVER" but hell no NOT ever. DID that in WoW and RIFT. Never doing it again. It wasn't "rewarding" in any way at all. And it contributed in a major way to me leaving both games.

      NOT FUN. For me. YMMV.

      I have no experience with any other MMOs besides ESO, but I pretty much agree with you, which is why I still haven't done any of that despite having been playing since shortly after TESO:Morrowind came out. If I ever do decide to do that, it will be because I really did decide to finish the game and move on to other things.

      Okay. I think I misunderstood your POV. Sorry for going off half-cocked.

      No problem, but I'm not saying I'll never do any of that, because I don't like ruling anything out. I like to think of myself as being in the "mid game" stage, where I'm no longer just starting out trying to level up enough to stay alive, but not yet in the process of trying to tie up all of the loose ends and call the game "done." In fact, ESO sort of changed the way I approach the other ES games, because I no longer try to focus on finishing all of the questlines as quickly as I can and am finding it more fun to just kick back and make the experience last longer.
      I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
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      I would consider endgame to be progression based activities like working towards vet trials. And I think there’s a distinction between that and any activity you can do at max level.

      I also don’t really do endgame, for various reasons, and focus on more casual activities like questing, crafting, and trading.
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      kevkj wrote: »
      Anyone who has invested a lot of time into the aspect of the game they enjoy AND are knowledgeable/skilled at it. For PVE it goes without saying anyone who goes for trifectas or scorepushes/speedruns. For PVP it's going to be very contentious who is actually 'good' at it. For housing/fashion it would be the people who have encyclopedic knowledge of the styles/furnishings in the game and are able to combine them to be a greater than a sum of their parts. There's some houses out there which are just so much more well crafted than most. Lots of houses/outfits which are just a mismash of credit card swiped items. Even for RP-ers, some have the gift of gab and improv while others do not. There's also the trading endgamers, not just people who make a couple of million a week but those who buy up entire stocks of items on a server whose sales volumes are in the hundreds of millions. Honourable mention to TOT players, those who consistently hit that top 10 every season.

      I forgot ToT haha, I would agree I guess there is a ToT endgame. I've not heard of there being a ToT endgame community (as I have seen like... two prominent ToT members) but it might just be that I'm not in that space.
      PC/NA Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS/Heal), Trialist (DPS/Tank/Heal), and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore
    • Vaughndaunted
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      LunaFlora wrote: »
      What do you consider end game? Let’s talk!!!

      and what do you consider end game?

      I consider end game to be where you mainly focus. You’re the master of what you do and all you’re trying to do is sharpen your knife per se… for the next kill. I craft, I do trials, I do normal random dungeons and I theory craft for the next best set ups.

      I don’t know what else I could do to make ESO enjoyable, but I’m now a vampire Katjiit who steals and the blade of woes. Idk. I guess it’s what you make it.
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    • Amottica
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      It's different for every player. For me, vet DLC dungeons and trial. For others PvP, housing etc.

      This. Pretty much this and it encompasses anything in the game.

      For the most part end game has been considered what requires being max level to participate. So for ESO that is vet trials and dungeons. Not everyone is interested in that so for them it is anything else including PvP, Cyrodiil, crafting, or dailies.

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      In my opinion, it is whatever you'd like it to be.
      Edited by Bobargus on February 13, 2024 7:26AM
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      Inventory Management is the real end game.
      "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle
    • LordOsiris
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      I realy can't see an Endgame in a game where you can have 18 <snip> toons on 1 server. There is always something to do ... :)

      But my endgame is housing, crafting, pvp and support.

      <snipped for Hate Speech>
      Edited by ZOS_Hadeostry on February 6, 2024 12:01AM
      If you wanna know more about me, check first here: eso-database.com/en/user/LordOsiris
    • Wolfshade
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      Eso has an neverending Endgame, cause if basically the whole game counts as "endgame" through scaling, then that's a lot of choice.
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      Fashion scrolls!

      I guess dlc dungeon achievements too.
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      The activities where gear, build, or investment are a significant part of your results.

      So, vet trials, arenas, vet dungeon achievements and PvP using PvP builds are obvious examples.

      But also there's a pretty big difference between most people first house and one where they have invested a ton of time into learning to decorate and accumulating furniture/plans. Or someone who is just listing whatever every now and then when their guild happens to have a trader, and a millionaire trader who completely understands their market and puts a ton of time into investing in it for huge payoffs.
      Edited by spartaxoxo on February 5, 2024 9:30AM
    • LesserCircle
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      Whatever you like is endgame but worst one might be pve trifectas for trials and such, the community has gotten so small that it's unrecognizable.
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      I still think 'end game' is a bad name for it. The end of the game is when you've run out of things to do and have to stop, if you've still got things to do then you haven't gotten to the end yet.

      But in terms of things you can only do after getting to level 50/CP160 and getting a good build and gear together, which is the usual definition, I suppose the main things are all types of PvP (Crydoiil, Imperial City, Battlegrounds), veteran dungeons and trials. Of course that covers both just completing them and going for specific achievements/all achievements, specific items from them etc. There's some sort of leaderboard as well, but I don't know what the criteria is.

      In terms of what I do and what players like me do I'd say I haven't reached the end yet. I mainly focus on questing and exploring zones and in that sense level and CP is largely irrelevant (I don't use CP unless I'm in a group where it will be expected). The game didn't change at all for me when I got my first character to level 50, I just carried on with what I was doing (and not just because I was in the middle of a delve, once I got out I carried on with quests in that zone) and when I got to CP160 the only difference was that I took the time to figure out exactly what equipment I wanted and once I got all the skill lines I wanted levelled up and the skills morphed (which took a bit longer) I could pick a build I liked instead of focusing on what needed levelling up.

      If you enjoy questing or non-instanced PvE generally I'd say either the whole game is end game or there is no end, you might catch up to the latest release (especially now they're only doing 1 chapter and no zone DLC) but that just means you can take a break or do something else or play an alt until the next chapter comes out.
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