Really need help from Zenimax

JimFord047

This happens on Both MAC and Windows!

My Characters Do NOT do the damage they are "Capable" of. It has been very frustrating, I have reinstalled the game on Both Platforms, Bought New Copies of the game and recreated characters in those (they Did Work!!) But on my account there seems to be some very Weird things Happening on and off to all characters on the Account.

This was not always the case , they used to work very well. Then Suddenly they stopped working correctly

I have tried to go onto the Forums and get Help, but the general consensus of Opinion is "this works, yours does not, therefore YOU are doing it wrong!" = NOT VERY HELPFULL!!

So To Try and Prove the Problem I built a new computer (that did not Work, and ended up Quite expensive!).

I then "IMPORTED" other players! 1 from the USA, 1 From Finland, + others who were allowed to log in but not "imported". Simple Test. they log into their account on My PC or MAC and play. For a week! and see if there are any changes or differences, That ruled out the internet connection as there were no differences.

They Then setup one of My characters as a like for like to one of theirs and played it!

They could not get the same results on my character as they did on their own.

Procedure

open MacBook Pro
Log into their account
select Character

Open up MY ACCOUNT on PC

Select Character

Change Champion points
Change Skills
Change Skill Points
Change Armour
Change, well EVERYTHING! Until it is an exact Replica of their Character.

Then They play that Character on the PC and on the Mac and on another PC.


They Could not get the Characters to do the same amount of damage as their own on either the PC's or the Mac

their Full "Technical" Assumption as to the Result

"YOUR ACCOUNT OR SOMETHING TO DO WITH YOUR ACCOUNT IS F*$#@D", 3 DIFFERENT PLAYERS AND THE SAME RESULT 3 TIMES. their accounts work on my systems, but they cannot get MY account to do the same as theirs!


Nobody has any idea as to WHY , anything on MY ACCOUNT is different, but now 4 people have used it and 4 people have failed to get it to do what is meant to do.

Overall suggestion, IT'S the ACCOUNT , Not the Setup!!

I wanted to put this in as a Support message, but I can only put it in as "Feedback", which is a No Answer / No Help, Where can i go to have Zenimax actually check this out?

Please HELP!!!

JimFord047

PS, anyone wanting to come to my house and try this is very welcome to do so!!

I can Feed you Thanksgiving leftovers whilst doing so, but only have enough food for about 30 people.

Ph1p

Hey there, sorry hear about your troubles. Could you clarify what exact kind of damage you and your friends are unable to reproduce on your account?

• What are you hitting to test this? A random monster, a dummy, a trial dummy, each other in a duel, ...?
• What are you using to deal damage? A light attack, a heavy attack, a skill, with what weapon, ...?
• How are you measuring damage? Do you look at in-game damage numbers that pop up, do you use an add-on, ...?
• When you say your friends change your character to a copy of theirs, does that take into account race and class?

As it stands, no one including ZOS support would really be able to help, given the information provided.

TheImperfect

Have you tried making your characters on their pc's and playing them and do you get better results if you do? It is possible that with all the balance changes that have been made that is just the default output now and not some difference particular to you.

JimFord047

As I said on the first PART, Identical Everything!

so Light or heavy attack, on the same skills on the same Lightning Staff , on dungeons / Dummies / Duels you name it - it was tried!
in game report, 2 different addons Combat Metric ETC


Ok WHO do i need to get to and What information do they require , ANY And ALL information can be provided, but to WHO and HOW

Toons were tried on 2 PC's ( actually 3 if you include theirs) and a MacBook Pro both theirs and mines the only difference that could not be accommodated was the 1000+ lvl's II am above them by

Tried using MY setups on their toon - although the damage was less it still exceeded what could be done on MY account - THEM PLAYING BOTH - NOT ME!!!

JimFord047

I have tried this before - Detailing EVERYTHING, the response i got back as "TOO MUCH INFORMATION", but now its apparently not enough information...

I cannot win, give exact everything, and its too much or not specific for the person wanting to answer - I give an outline of the problem, and that's not enough information for me to get to a person in Zenimax that could run an account integrity check.


As I said above I am partly Blind, so this actually takes a lot of time and effort to request help, and its a little down heartening to be told, well do it this way and that works, if it does not its you that's the problem, now its 4 people that are the problem but the same problem!

This all started After Zenimax made Changes to my account a few years ago!!!

They may have fixed A problem - But appear to have caused an other, kind of sounds about right of late

Ph1p

Could you provide a concrete example of what exactly is different? For instance:

"My Breton Templar deals XXXX damage using a light attack with no weapon or gear, no CPs, attribute points, or any skill points distributed. My friend's identical Breton Templar somehow deals YYY more light attack damage on the same dummy."

"Despite identical builds, my Sorcerer's Crystal Fragment deals about 30% less damage than my friend's, both as a critical and non-critical hit."

Ideally, you would share Combat Metrics screenshots of any tests you conducted, including the combat and the info pages so both damage stats and builds are visible. Make sure the combat pages shows your dominant resource stat (magicka or stamina). The same can be shared when submitting a ticket or bug report.

JimFord047

OK Ignore the damage for a second, that's just a way of proving the differences on the accounts.

Answer This then

i get 62 mails, the mail says I have 67 mails, I delete 62 mails, All OF THE MAILS , yet it tells me i have still got 5 mails - and that they may require time to come in!

Fair enough

Does Giving it 2 years seem the correct amount of time to wait? but still I am awaiting 5 mails to come in!!

this happened as the damage problems happened - the Tie in = the account, not the toon, not the damage, but the obvious comparison to prove its more than just the mails, would be additional problems

add to this items missing from my ESO plus Storage BAG, once more started at the same time...

That points to the same as the mail and to the same as the damage, a problem with the account...

But I cannot get a way of getting Support to check the account and hopefully repair it!!!


make a new account, set up the same toon, same everything, mail comes in and goes out, no problem, toon pays as you expect no problem, items stay in the bag no problem.

I am partially blind, so another looking at my account checking things and getting the same answers, point being II am not mad!! being driven mad YES, but as yet not there!!

They see the same problems that I do, I cannot verify the Server Sided Data with an integrity check ( II can if i have access , but they are not going to do that), so I need them to do that - fix the data file = fix all the problems , there is no issue with the toon then, its just down to my bad play But it also means that others will NOT have the same issues on the same account, their gamplay may be Worse or better....


I do appreciate the offers , and the thoughts on how there is a difference of 65K on the toon between theirs and mines, but this is being used as an example of how its affecting me daily playing the game, there are More Wider issues!!!


Having worked with Databases for over 25 years and Network Systems for about the same, I can guarantee that they have NOT had no issues!!! but the issue can only be resolved after being identified and reported for it to be looked at in the first place , HOW DO YOU REPORT IT!!! when its not on thier selective support list


is it a missing items , in part YES
is it an account issue - Probably YES - have they a tick box NO
is it a Gameplay Issue - YES - have they a tick box NO

is it a quick fix , once you know where the corruption is, YES and NO, but it is possible

How Do You make it possible -I do not know, or I would have asked support, how to you ask Support if they have not option to do so - I do not know...

Hence I Need Help!!!

Ph1p

JimFord047 wrote: »

I have tried this before - Detailing EVERYTHING, the response i got back as "TOO MUCH INFORMATION", but now its apparently not enough information...

I cannot win, give exact everything, and its too much or not specific for the person wanting to answer - I give an outline of the problem, and that's not enough information for me to get to a person in Zenimax that could run an account integrity check.

Hi there, you're saying the same build and setup produces different damage results on your account versus other accounts. To corroborate this, the easiest way would be to run controlled experiments using exactly the same setup on your account and a friend's, then record the numbers using Combat Metrics to compare.

I looked up the previous thread you referenced. While I can't deny the effort you've put into this, it's impossible for me to follow the lengthy posts and draw a full picture of the builds and situations you tested. The problem isn't that you were providing too much information, but that it wasn't structured enough to be processed. There's a reason trial leads ask for Combat Metrics screenshots instead of written descriptions of parses.

JimFord047

Understandable - However as a Network Consultant, I am expected to provide a concise and exact report, and got quite used to it, start with Nothing, add and item, compare the difference, add an item and compare the difference, alter the parameter, compare the difference. generate the end result!

the previous thread was LONG - but covered everything, detailed and documented, and consistent. That was not proving the damage - that was Proving that I had not just came up with an idea, and decided that was the problem!

and had taken the time and effort to prove that I was being accurate and concise.

I could have jumped straight in and said

All Legendry Armour
Sergeants and Storm master

copied from Deltia gaming , exactly, but I cannot replicate his results - simple answer he is doing a quicker or slower rotation, he is at a different angle , he is using a different dummy - your just not as good !

From a support point of view, I gave specifics, easily emulated , with results! they do it, they caan see the differences, they "could" run a copy of MY data File and verify if its the set up or the environment - hence it was HEAVY HITS ONLY, push button > start attack > end of attack.

Using Skills etc ,would involve rotations, which including key lag / data transmission times etc would give a variable that c could not be accounted for,

Keep it simple conform and exact...


But please look at the post above your reply, have you an answer to that????

i would be most interested in your perception of a fix on that one, if you have one, then i am more than willing to try it

SilverBride

JimFord047 wrote: »

This all started After Zenimax made Changes to my account a few years ago!!!

What kind of changes did Zenimax make to your account and why did they do so?

I can't imagine what account info would affect a character's performance in game.

ZOS_Icy

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.

Thank you for your understanding.

FantasticFreddie

Ok I am trying to follow this, and the way it is written is a little confusing to me
Ok, have you tried playing:
1) different account on the same computer?

2) same account on a different computer?

3) If possible, a different player on the same account and same computer?

It seems incredibly, incredibly unlikely that somehow zenimax broke just one account to the point that the damage is lower than everyone elses. You've mentioned that you have severe visual impairment, and I don't really understand how you are measuring your damage output. Are you using any addons? If so, which ones?

Pictures would be very, very helpful.

JimFord047

Zenimax Altered the level Downwards to account for something ore other



1) 6 differently owned accounts on 3 Windows Computers and 1 MacBook Pro
2) All ACCOUNTS played on ALL Computers
3) Everyone Played MY account on ALL Computers


I have tried All the Damage Addons -All Have Different Values, But using on the most part Combat Metrics to look at the damages, None makes a difference, they are all about 65K Out

As Said Previously The Damage is only Part of it, Mail, Items, Game play lots of different things

example Wife's Game on wife's computer Body | (x) I Body (x) is the target rectocele ,

My ACCOUNT On Wife's Computer (X) Body | | Body about 1 meter to the left of Middle is the Middle

JimFord047

ZOS_Icy wrote: »

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.

Thank you for your understanding.

lol Where is it moved to?

Cannot See


Has Support managed to look at this????

Ph1p

JimFord047 wrote: »

But please look at the post above your reply, have you an answer to that????

i would be most interested in your perception of a fix on that one, if you have one, then i am more than willing to try it

Hey there, I don't know of any other ways to ask for support than submitting a ticket and raising it here on the forums, which is what you have already done. Maybe add your ticket number here so it can be easily linked by support.

Besides that, my suggestion is the same as for the damage issue: Provide easily digestible evidence supporting your claims, especially visuals, which are much easier to understand than written descriptions. I don't know what you already wrote in the ticket, but you've mentioned 3 issues:

• Incoming mails stuck in limbo
• Disappearing items from craft bag
• Lower damage despite identical builds

The mailbox issue can be shown with a simple screenshot and an added comment that this same error has persisted over a long time. A similar bug is a common issue, but usually goes away after relogging, so it is indeed strange if you constantly have exactly 5 messages supposedly stuck in limbo over 2 years.

Items disappearing from your craft bag is more difficult to prove. At the very least, provide what materials they are, when you think they disappeared, and why you are sure that they were not there before. For example, that you purchased 50 rare style materials and they're now gone without any crafting happening in between.

On combat, I already suggested Combat Metrics screenshots to document exactly the kind of experiment you described.

JimFord047

As An Aside of why this gets frustrating.....

I HAD a home maintenance contract, for 13 years I booked 2 fault calls , the same 2 fault calls, only for them to be ignored. On Year 14 they sent me an email informing me that the contract was to be renewed.

This time they were asked are you going to look at the fault ?

"Well you could Log as Call!"

Again?

Yes

Well you can stick your £575 renewal where ducks stick their bill sand the sun don't shine, How Much for a CHARGABLE REPAIR

£75

OK Book that


Engineer out 2 days later

Finds and Fixes 3 faults, 2 of which were obvious old ones!!

Morale, accept being fobbed off, it costs you, Leave and PAY for a repair, its done!!


This has been going on for YEARS, Software changed here, Computers Changed Here, Operating systems Changed here, yet the fault persists, I arrange for People from Different COUNTRIES to come visit and try it out - they get the same results.

I have NO problems on their accounts, they have all of my problems on their computers only common ground -THE ACCOUNT

All I am Asking is for it to be checked - but cannot get to ANYONE in zenimax to ask that Question.

JimFord047

That's the Same 2 fault calls Every Year for 13 Years

valenwood_vegan

I understand that you're upset about... something with your account? And I hope ZoS support can help - the best thing would probably be to put in a support ticket and then maybe post on here with your ticket number so that a member of the forum team can check that the ticket is finding its way to the right place.

That said, this is really confusing and difficult to follow - I would suggest trying to stay focused on a specific problem you are experiencing with your account, and explaining the problem in an organized way... ideally with some pictures of the results from something like combat metrics. Making numerous posts conflating various unrelated issues is not going to help anyone figure out what's going on. At this point it might be better to just kind of start from the top again... Just a suggestion.

EDIT to add: A support ticket can be placed:
1) in-game by going to help -> ask for help
2) by logging into your account at https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/#en/home

Good luck!

JimFord047

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

I understand that you're upset about... something with your account? And I hope ZoS support can help - the best thing would probably be to put in a support ticket and then maybe post on here with your ticket number so that a member of the forum team can check that the ticket is finding its way to the right place.

That said, this is really confusing and difficult to follow - I would suggest trying to stay focused on a specific problem you are experiencing with your account, and explaining the problem in an organized way... ideally with some pictures of the results from something like combat metrics. Making numerous posts conflating various unrelated issues is not going to help anyone figure out what's going on. At this point it might be better to just kind of start from the top again... Just a suggestion.

EDIT to add: A support ticket can be placed:
1) in-game by going to help -> ask for help
2) by logging into your account at https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/#en/home

Good luck!

Thanks for that,

However as i said previously, thats been looked at So many times, problem is that under ALL of those selections, there is no actual button that covers the problems in the majority as full or part, items yes, account NO, play issues NO

Tried in the past, but all i could get close was the feedback / bug, which is a thank you - no thank you - bye bye

I would love to get this resolved...
Only real option would be to take a vacation and go visit them and ask reception to get someone from support to talk to me!!!

lol its getting that close!!

JimFord047

Example of More Frustration,

I contacted Support about missing plating's (possibly).

I explained that I had looked into my ESO PLUS storage Bag, and found less plating's than I expected after update 40...


The First Question I get is "Which Character had the plating's?"

Like All of them , its ESO PLUS, its the same Bag for ALL



next its explained to remove All the addons, to see if that helps with the Plating's /grain extraction

Neither are relevant to the Question - not confidence inspiring!!!

YffresTrill

I am sorry if this is a bit blunt, but support will not be able to help you in such odd, specific circumstances unless you provide screenshots and detailed, to the point descriptions of the issues, with no extraneous information.

Screenshots are necessary, because it is very difficult to follow what exactly your problems are otherwise. If we on the forums, who play the game regularly, are having difficulty understanding your issue, support will be less likely to understand, as it is apparent not all the CS workers actually play the game to any significant degree.

You need to provide them with screenshots and as much information as possible, without any irrelevant details (personal life, etc.) and ask that the case be escalated to the relevant department.

It does not matter which category you select when submitting your ticket -- the available categories obviously do not cover everything.

SilverBride

JimFord047 wrote: »

Zenimax Altered the level Downwards to account for something ore other

They altered the level of what downwards? Did they tell you they altered something?

NeuroticPixels

I am sorry if this is a bit blunt, but support will not be able to help you in such odd, specific circumstances unless you provide screenshots and detailed, to the point descriptions of the issues, with no extraneous information.

This. ^

Stop venting and ranting.

Stop complaining.

Remove all emotion from the equation.

We’ve all already been extremely patient with you. More so than I’ve literally ever seen on these forums.

If you need help doing so, you can type up a tight and clear message consisting of the issues you’re having and we can proof-read it and respond with corrections and feedback. You can then copy the polished text and send it in as your support ticket.

I suggest this because you may not realize, but you’re giving the impression of someone at their wit’s end. Your typed thoughts are all over the place with incorrect punctuation and random capitalization. If you want things fixed, you need to be as coherent as possible.

Also, ZOS will always respond to support tickets with a bot. It is your responsibility to respond to the initial message you receive with something along the lines of “I need a support agent to view my ticket.” Or it’s likely you’ll never hear from them again or the ticket will be closed. Yes, it’s crappy. But that’s how it works.

Also, never put in more than 1 ticket at a time. That will only slow things down and possibly annoy the wrong agent on the wrong day and they’ll close everything.
1 ticket active / open at a time. Period.

I hope this has been helpful and not offensive. My intentions are not to be rude, but to be honest and informative.

Aislinna

JimFord047 wrote: »

Answer This then

i get 62 mails, the mail says I have 67 mails, I delete 62 mails, All OF THE MAILS , yet it tells me  i have still got 5 mails - and that they may require time to come in!

Fair enough

Does Giving it 2 years seem the correct amount of time to wait? but still I am awaiting 5 mails to come in!!

I have the same issues with the mail notifications not synching up with actual mail deliveries. ESO has had this issue for many years; it's not specific to you alone. They attempted a major fix in a patch some time back and it helped, but it does not always work. This is not an account specific issue.

JimFord047 wrote: »

I could have jumped straight in and said

All Legendry  Armour
Sergeants and Storm master

copied from Deltia gaming , exactly, but I cannot replicate his results - simple answer he is doing a quicker or slower rotation, he is at a different angle , he is using a different dummy - your just not as good !

From a support point of view, I gave specifics, easily emulated , with results! they do it, they caan see the differences, they "could" run a copy of MY data File and verify if its the set up or the environment - hence it was HEAVY HITS ONLY, push button > start attack > end of attack.

I too have copied some of Deltia's builds exactly and can't replicate his results either, so my character does not do the damage it is "capable" of. But, this is because Deltia is just better than I am since he's played for many more years and doesn't appear to share my old person reaction times, slow reflexes, bad eyesight, a not fully functioning hand and a suboptimal laptop.  This is not an account specific issue.

rauyran

To get help you need to be able to ask a clear question. To help you solve your damage problem you need to tell us some things

1. What is the damage you expect to achieve.
2. What is the damage you got.
3. How did you test it
4. Are you measuring single hit damage or damage per second?

Braffin

Regarding missing dmg:

As you've access to different accounts and more than one pc, I recommend to do standardized tests and protocol them.

Start with something basic (like killing a dummy only with continuous HA, without any CP or gear besides a weapon). Do that with the faulty account on more than one system and with any other account on more than one system. Does cmx show the same values then or are they significantly different?

Celldweller

Did they specidically tell you they adjusted your dps outpout? It's not something I would think they would randomly do for no reason. Also when you say you tried with other peoples accounts with same gear and skills were you also the same race and did you have the same amount of CP spent in the same way and the same passive skills?

JimFord047

JimFord047 wrote: »

reinstalling the game to see if that helps!

My Biggest Problem is the setups... The old Champion Point system was a lot better than this one, Do Not get me wrong it's probably quite good if you know how to use it! But that's never been explained nor documented , its a case of Trial and error, which in my case means THOUSANDS in gold Chopping and Changing, for the dammed thing to be all different in a few hours!!

Dummies are good - got a couple of them, and access to more via the Beam me up Guild house , but they do not translate to the Game World, they are always a couple of Thousand out.

I have tried making Characters with the exact same Setups but different races, to see if that is the problem. EG a Templar Build with High Elf - Dark Elf - Breton - Imperial they all do basically the exact same damage , I have put all the attribute points to Magika and then to Stamina and then 50/50 exact same damage!!

I have transmuted Armours full sets /mixed sets epic and legendry, changed them from nothing all the way up to nirnhoned, tried various enchantments all end up wit the exact same amount of damage, they all cap out at 16,380

in the Quest for damage its all based upon and oakensoul build - when its not it caps out AT 5739

I have even put the builds into the ESOBUILDEDITOR - every aspect exact and I am always 1000 - 3000+ short of what it says the build should do.

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The Current Build is mostly a survivable Healers Build for Group Dungeons, So All of the champion Points are onto the Healer bits ( oh and it still does 16,380 damage)

5 pieces of Twice Born (to allow for The Shadow and the Ritual, so far the best healing Combo) a combo of Heavy / Medium / Light to make use of the Undaunted Bonuses

5 pieces of leeching Plate (to allow for me to survive) Heavy Armour
An OakenSoul Ring

And a Pauldron / Arm Cop / Epaulete of a monster set to boost healing

the restoration Staff is powered for Healing, but the Lightning staff is carried as Nirnhoned / precise / Powered / Sharpened

The bar is 3 healing 1 defense 1 offense all class abilities allowing me to just switch in and out thhe different staffs without changing the whole thing

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this has been changed around Multiple times ALL WITH THE EXACT SAME RESULT MAX 16,384

Heavy Armours

Medusa / Rattlecage / Dreugh King / Briarheart / gloom Grace / Livewire, in various Assortments / enchantments etc

Medium Armours

Hundings rage / Storm Master / Briarheart and a few others, various Assortments / enchantments Etc

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the image above is what I had been working on at 03:00 with a handful of pain meds, just to show how METHODICAL I have been trying to work this out

but here it is in a more readable form

The Character is lvl 1762 Everything is Levelled up to Maximum Level 50 , 0 Champion Points


setup Critical Hits Normal Hits

0 Attribute's 2751 1831
64 on Magic 3324 2216
64 on Stamina 3324 2216
50/50 Magic/stamina 3037 2025
64 Magica + Magica Armour Enchantment 3496 2330
64 Magica + Stamina Armour Enchantments 3496 2330
64 Stamina + Magica Armour Enchantment 3496 2330
64 Stamina + Stamina Armour Enchantments 3496 2330

now take the top results and start Adding Mundas Stones

Critical Hits Normal Hits

The Lover 5623 3559
The Shadow 5643 3339
The Warrior 5534 3503
The Apprentice 5534 3503
The Thief 5275 3339
The Lover + The Shadow 7449 4474
The Lover + The Thief 5739 3632
The Lover + The Warrior 5803 3673

Take the Top 2 and add on the Oakensoul ring

Critical Hits Normal Hits

The Lover + The Shadow 16374 9668
The Lover + The Warrior 15847 9332


Now Take the Top Result and start adding the Champion points


Critical Hits Normal Hits

Fighting Finesse 16374 9668

makes No difference from Now on in All champion points single or plain ALL champion points mixed = the above 16,374 is the MAX

change the Armours Around Twice born + Medusa / Twice Born + Dreugh King / Medusa +Dreugh King (all Armours Divines)


Critical Hits Normal Hits

15350 9029
14709 8562
15017 8834
14803 8807
14150 8283
14445 8437

As you can see the results were Varied Down the Way, the top score was actually going back to the original Setup, it could not reach the 16,374 max, instead it was 15,350. However the next day it was back to the 16,374

Armour mix off Medusa + Rattlecage or Dreugh King should have been a lot higher than Twice Born on its own, but came nowhere near it!!


so the Healers Survival Build was worked out... a lot better for healing / reviving whilst taking a lot of hits (only the Dark Elf Templar survives Fire a little longer) giving a Maximum of 16,374 All the time.... Until Yesterday!!!!

The all of a Sudden My Crits were down 3000 to 13,374 but my normal damage rose from 9029 to 21,074 , I have used multiple Apps to measure the damage NONE COME BACK THE SAME as each other, so this is based upon the Zenimax Built in damage counter.

And a little Logical deviance, same Dungeon - same Boss - Different Armours, how long does it take to kill it!! 6 times then averaged time. the Quicker the death, the more your hitting it , except they all take the same average time!!!

Use the Wives Account, put on the same Armour, same mundus, same champion points , same race, same Attributes and kill it about 3 times faster, with 3 times the damage.

ask friends to do the same experiment - roughly the same result as wife, meaning something on my WHOLE ACCOUNT is Not Working Correctly!!!!

But I am open to Suggestions!!!!

JimFord047

from a previous post, trying to highlight that there was something wrong, in the hope that Support would get involved.

The Whole post went on more, but it was put into players helping players by the MOD's , that meant the point of hoping Support got to see it went down, and the point made then that there appeared to be a fault in the Whole Account, could not have been "helped" by any player, unless they were support!

That was when it was decided to literally IMPORT players here to my home , for them to actually physically try out the computers + and accounts to their setups!

Players helping players is a great idea!!!!

if you have sergeants and storm masters with slimecraw pauldrons and an oakensoul ring, and are not getting good damage, then suggestions of Skills etc and rotations can make a difference , that's where this would help.


But by starting with a Naked toon, on a dummy that I had, recording Averages out of say 10 hits then making a change, repeating and login the result, from a QA point of view i was documenting a repeatable set of tests by anyone and ergo comparable!

instead the answers were

Get a Specific Dummy
Run it all again - tell us the results , but only the final results as the rest is too much info!!
Use this App - Don't use that app for the results - don't use the zenimax figures (each one with their preference!!)

and it went on!!!


The Final Conclusion via messaging, was "It Works on Mines, It Should Work on Yours, Therefor your doing something Wrong!" - LOL NOT HELPING!!!, on being asked what if it was the account? answer, "I do not know, possibly, but that's not something I could help with" - - - - - There the point!!! - - - - - - -


This has never been only about the damage!!! I normally play a Healer or a Tank - they do not do a lot of damage, but I do play quests / solo where it would be nice to kill a world boss in under 20 minutes

Its also embarrassing to go into a dungeon as a lvl 2000+ wearing Sergeants + Storm master (all divines thief mundus) + oakensould + nirnhoned weapons, bloodthirsty jewellery, same skills as a player get 80k+ , only to do 8% of the damage when the other players are max lvl 30

Good example here - Falkreath Hold, Skeleton Boss , they are all dead , i get pulled in, destroy everything, raise them , kill the boss 8-11% of the damage, Final Boss kills the all, destroy the adds raise them, kill the boss, 8% damage that's a BIG WHY!!! in my mind

Or another point!! SOLO a dungeon, no companion No Pets , JUST ME..... why do i only do 69% of the damage???? are 31% of them just committing suicide to spite me lmao

Aislinna

There are people willing to help you improve, but ALL of them want to see a combat report of you killing the trial dummy and you seem deadset against doing this for some reason. Taking 10 minutes and obtaining the 2 page combat report tells people everything they need to know about what your build is and what you are doing and they can see where improvements or changes are needed. It's up to you if you want their help or not. but they want to see the combat report, not your intepretation of what you think is going on. Good luck.