Trading disabled?

JavaRen

So, anyone know what ZOS is investigating that required them to shut down trading on PC?

festegios

As far as I know nothing got disanled

JavaRen

There is an announcement in the patch note forum.

endgamesmug

So you cant manually trade with anyone? 🤔

ESO_player123

JavaRen wrote: »

There is an announcement in the patch note forum.

Indeed there is. I'm not sure why it's not posted here as well.

ArchangelIsraphel

The quote in the thread on the Patch Notes form reads as follows:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote:

We have temporarily turned off player trading on the PC NA and PC EU servers while we investigate an issue. Attempting to trade while player trading is off will result in an a "Trade failed" error message. This is expected.

We will provide an update sometime tomorrow (Nov. 2). Thank you all for your patience.

Link: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/646060/player-trading-temporarily-disabled-on-pc-servers-november-2#latest

Ilsabet

I'm pretty sure I know, because I'm pretty sure it's related to a bug I've reported. But I'm not going to say anything about it before they do, so this is really just me flexing about being in the know for once.

Of course we'll see how smug I am if I get caught up in any preemptive ban waves, but hopefully it's not serious enough to come to that. (I wouldn't advise anyone else to panic, at least.)

The fact that they're already planning to make a statement about it tomorrow is encouraging. Hopefully that means they've worked out what the bug is and how to fix it.

runa_gate

be nice if the in-game notification was more than "trade failed" - not everyone knows to come look here

emilyhyoyeon

I just googled about this after being confused why I couldn't trade a trial drop to someone who needed it.

I think for something as big as disabling trading, maybe a popup message upon logging in/on the login screen would be helpful.

valenwood_vegan

There really needs to be a method of communicating important information to players somewhere within in the game. Very few players are active on the forums.

sarahthes

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

There really needs to be a method of communicating important information to players somewhere within in the game. Very few players are active on the forums.

It got reposted 10x in one discord I'm in. People share info.

valenwood_vegan

That's nice. I stand by my suggestion.

zaria

Assume this giving other players stuff like drop from an dungeon or just stuff from the event.

Araneae6537

zaria wrote: »

Assume this giving other players stuff like drop from an dungeon or just stuff from the event.

Event drops you can send in the mail, but for group-bound items like dungeon and trial gear we’re SOL until it’s fixed.

zaria

Araneae6537 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Assume this giving other players stuff like drop from an dungeon or just stuff from the event.

Event drops you can send in the mail, but for group-bound items like dungeon and trial gear we’re SOL until it’s fixed.

Good point about mailing, that tend to be easier anyway, but not fun if doing dungeons or trials.

Tieberion

Trading not working on PC N/A for me or my buddy either, sounds like a system glitch. Farmed a dungeon for 2 hours for a resto staff and it finally dropped, and now can't trade with less than an hour left.

SilverBride

Tieberion wrote: »

Trading not working on PC N/A for me or my buddy either, sounds like a system glitch.

It's not a glitch. It was intentional.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/646060/player-trading-temporarily-disabled-on-pc-servers-november-2#latest

Araneae6537

Tieberion wrote: »

Trading not working on PC N/A for me or my buddy either, sounds like a system glitch. Farmed a dungeon for 2 hours for a resto staff and it finally dropped, and now can't trade with less than an hour left.

Better both log off until ZOS reenables trading (assuming it they will do so soon) or it will become bound. I agree there should have been a notification in game for exactly such situation as you describe! It’s no good if you find out about it only after the fact!

FantasticFreddie

sarahthes wrote: »

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

There really needs to be a method of communicating important information to players somewhere within in the game. Very few players are active on the forums.

It got reposted 10x in one discord I'm in. People share info.

Yeah it gets posted over and over in one discord but the rest know nothing about it LOL.

Carry discords in particular feeling a bit annoyed about the whole thing

virtus753

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Tieberion wrote: »

Trading not working on PC N/A for me or my buddy either, sounds like a system glitch. Farmed a dungeon for 2 hours for a resto staff and it finally dropped, and now can't trade with less than an hour left.

Better both log off until ZOS reenables trading (assuming it they will do so soon) or it will become bound. I agree there should have been a notification in game for exactly such situation as you describe! It’s no good if you find out about it only after the fact!

Dungeon BoP items automatically bind after 2 hours, regardless of whether you're logged on or not. So unless they re-enable player trading within 2 hours of drop, there is nothing you can do to prevent it being bound.

sarahthes

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

sarahthes wrote: »

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

There really needs to be a method of communicating important information to players somewhere within in the game. Very few players are active on the forums.

It got reposted 10x in one discord I'm in. People share info.

Yeah it gets posted over and over in one discord but the rest know nothing about it LOL.

Carry discords in particular feeling a bit annoyed about the whole thing

I've only seen trading disabled for 2 reasons in MMOs.

1. Item dupe bug.
2. Item deletion bug.

I'm assuming it's the former.

DragonRacer

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I just googled about this after being confused why I couldn't trade a trial drop to someone who needed it.

I think for something as big as disabling trading, maybe a popup message upon logging in/on the login screen would be helpful.

Agreed. Diablo IV seems pretty good about this. The main log in screen has a little banner in the upper right to alert when next maintenance is and if something in-game is having issues. They, too, have had to disable trading and fix some exploits. Each time, you saw a banner saying trading was disabled, then once fixed, a banner saying trading had been re-enabled. Short, sweet, and to the point.

virtus753

sarahthes wrote: »

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

sarahthes wrote: »

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

There really needs to be a method of communicating important information to players somewhere within in the game. Very few players are active on the forums.

It got reposted 10x in one discord I'm in. People share info.

Yeah it gets posted over and over in one discord but the rest know nothing about it LOL.

Carry discords in particular feeling a bit annoyed about the whole thing

I've only seen trading disabled for 2 reasons in MMOs.

1. Item dupe bug.
2. Item deletion bug.

I'm assuming it's the former.

There might be a third option here. The new EA sets were not tradable even with your groupmate on PTS, and they are for some reason tradable with groupmates now. Since they do sometimes miss patch notes, it's impossible for us to know without further comment whether this change to the new sets was intended or not. It's also not at all necessarily the case that this is the reason player trading was disabled, but perhaps they want to pause things while they see what else might be tradable that shouldn't be.

FantasticFreddie

sarahthes wrote: »

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

sarahthes wrote: »

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

There really needs to be a method of communicating important information to players somewhere within in the game. Very few players are active on the forums.

It got reposted 10x in one discord I'm in. People share info.

Yeah it gets posted over and over in one discord but the rest know nothing about it LOL.

Carry discords in particular feeling a bit annoyed about the whole thing

I've only seen trading disabled for 2 reasons in MMOs.

1. Item dupe bug.
2. Item deletion bug.

I'm assuming it's the former.

I'm assuming we aren't going to get told. That they disabled it midafternoon on a Wednesday and didn't tell us why makes me think it's an exploitable glitch

Varana

sarahthes wrote: »

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

There really needs to be a method of communicating important information to players somewhere within in the game. Very few players are active on the forums.

It got reposted 10x in one discord I'm in. People share info.

But things like this belong into an ingame announcement that you can't miss. Information like this shoud always assume that players use no outside sources of information.

I had a player in one of my guilds asking why they suddenly had so many jewelry platings in their bag.

ZOS_Kevin

Hi All, just wanted to follow up here. We just provided an update regarding trading. You can find that here.

Regarding some of the feedback regarding messaging in-game about trading being disabled, we have passed that feedback along. While the priority was to get the issue identified and resolved as soon as possible, we've made note of in-game notification in the future.

Araneae6537

virtus753 wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Tieberion wrote: »

Trading not working on PC N/A for me or my buddy either, sounds like a system glitch. Farmed a dungeon for 2 hours for a resto staff and it finally dropped, and now can't trade with less than an hour left.

Better both log off until ZOS reenables trading (assuming it they will do so soon) or it will become bound. I agree there should have been a notification in game for exactly such situation as you describe! It’s no good if you find out about it only after the fact!

Dungeon BoP items automatically bind after 2 hours, regardless of whether you're logged on or not. So unless they re-enable player trading within 2 hours of drop, there is nothing you can do to prevent it being bound.

Thank you for the correction!

That really sucks to not know beforehand when trying to help someone farm for gear! Who thinks to check first whether trading or any other standard spect of gameplay happens to be disabled???

EF321

3rd maintenance in a week.
GG.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

And because of this some people might have to delete their characters because that character has a set piece on their person they intended on selling and now they cannot get rid of it without it being bound which would ruin their ability to sell said item due to losing the 100% drop guarantee.

code65536

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

And because of this some people might have to delete their characters because that character has a set piece on their person they intended on selling and now they cannot get rid of it without it being bound which would ruin their ability to sell said item due to losing the 100% drop guarantee.

So... using curation in an unintended way to reap profit from other players?

Araneae6537

code65536 wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

And because of this some people might have to delete their characters because that character has a set piece on their person they intended on selling and now they cannot get rid of it without it being bound which would ruin their ability to sell said item due to losing the 100% drop guarantee.

So... using curation in an unintended way to reap profit from other players?

Using curation for mutual benefit. For some, time is gold. I have never bought nor sold a drop myself, only forgone binding an item I didn’t have for a guildie who needed it more, but I see nothing wrong with doing so.