Discontinued items should not be part of achievements. Bare Bones Puppet

Veinblood1965

Bare Bones Puppet: Consume 10 Skeletal Marionette Parts, found in all varieties of Plunder Skulls.

These parts have not been part of the Witches Festival for years yet they are needed for this achievement. I've read that you can get them from the witches grab bag however so far I have not gotten a single one from the bag.

Going forward if something is going to be part of an achievement and is discontinued please just make the item directly purchasable from the Impresario instead of random luck. I've bought 4 or 5 bags this year and not a one. It's frustrating to use tickets on a random chance and is rather a slap in the face in some ways. It just feels inconsiderate of the player base.

skayl

Just to help you plan your ticket use, the Impressario's "Witches Grab Bag" contains only 1 of the Skeletal Marionette Parts, so you will actually need to open enough bags to have 10 Skeletal Marionette Parts. Given that the maximum number of tickets you would be able to gather during the festival this year is 26, the only way you'll be able to collect the memento in this event is if you know every other item offered in the grab bag (so you never get anything but the marionette parts) and if you spend 20 of your 26 tickets on the grab bags. The unbound Skeletal Marionette Parts are selling for around 600k each on PC/NA, so you could also drop 6mil on the puppet memento if you'd prefer not to spend tickets.

JHartEllis

The grab bags are curated based on what you've already learned, so it's best to buy the cheaper purchasable ones so that the Event Ticket items are only the ones you are going for. There's a complete list here, including links to TTC to purchase the cheaper ones if you're on PC: https://spicyeconomics.com/witches-festival-grab-bags/

With gifting reenabled, you can more readily get extra Event Tickets needed to finish off the full list.

emilyhyoyeon

What confuses me is that I have the memento but not the achievement. And I can't buy the grab bags either to get parts to get the achievement ''again'' because it says I already have everything that comes from them.

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Veinblood1965

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

What confuses me is that I have the memento but not the achievement. And I can't buy the grab bags either to get parts to get the achievement ''again'' because it says I already have everything that comes from them.

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I've got that on a few achievements. Like getting a templar or necro to level ten. I've done that.

Also the achievement wording needs to be updated as these are NOT found in plunder skulls now. I did manage to get ONE Skeletal Marionette Part out of around seven grab bags now. SO unless I buy them for 500k each from vendors it's going to take years and it's stupid to buy event tickets from the crown store on a RNG item.

ApoAlaia

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

What confuses me is that I have the memento but not the achievement. And I can't buy the grab bags either to get parts to get the achievement ''again'' because it says I already have everything that comes from them.

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I had the same issue.

I have no idea what happened here and where did the memento come from but the only thing I could do is stalk the guild traders for 'cheap' parts.

Took a couple of years but fortunately I managed in the end without having to spend a fortune.

Carlos93

Those pieces are not in the Entrepreneur's bags.

I have all the collectibles from the past events except the achievement puppet and those pieces do not appear there.

When I want to buy a past events bag, it tells me that I already have all the collectibles that can be obtained through the past years bag.

Baconlad

Can confirm the marionette parts DO drop from grab bags. I opened five bags and got four parts.

Veinblood1965

Baconlad wrote: »

Can confirm the marionette parts DO drop from grab bags. I opened five bags and got four parts.

That's great! Do you happen to have a lot of the other "curated" items that are possible from the bags as mentioned above?

I don't I keep getting Runed-Etched Bone Fragments which are for something else I haven't completed.

SeaGtGruff

I've bought 4 grab bags so far-- 2 on PC NA, 2 on PC EU-- and all four have had the marionette fragments. I remember buying fragments from guild traders last year, so I may have already completed the bones dice-rolling collectible on both servers. If I keep getting marionette fragments, I'll complete the marionette in a few more days. No telling whether the grab bag will still be purchasable after that, or if the marionette was the only thing I didn't have.

festegios

skayl wrote: »

Just to help you plan your ticket use, the Impressario's "Witches Grab Bag" contains only 1 of the Skeletal Marionette Parts, so you will actually need to open enough bags to have 10 Skeletal Marionette Parts. Given that the maximum number of tickets you would be able to gather during the festival this year is 26, the only way you'll be able to collect the memento in this event is if you know every other item offered in the grab bag (so you never get anything but the marionette parts) and if you spend 20 of your 26 tickets on the grab bags. The unbound Skeletal Marionette Parts are selling for around 600k each on PC/NA, so you could also drop 6mil on the puppet memento if you'd prefer not to spend tickets.

The problem there is the new ‘style’ page drops from those bags too

ShadowPaladin

festegios wrote: »

skayl wrote: »

Just to help you plan your ticket use, the Impressario's "Witches Grab Bag" contains only 1 of the Skeletal Marionette Parts, so you will actually need to open enough bags to have 10 Skeletal Marionette Parts. Given that the maximum number of tickets you would be able to gather during the festival this year is 26, the only way you'll be able to collect the memento in this event is if you know every other item offered in the grab bag (so you never get anything but the marionette parts) and if you spend 20 of your 26 tickets on the grab bags. The unbound Skeletal Marionette Parts are selling for around 600k each on PC/NA, so you could also drop 6mil on the puppet memento if you'd prefer not to spend tickets.

The problem there is the new ‘style’ page drops from those bags too

If you mean with *new* style page the Crowborne one and that it does drop from the bag right now, that should not be happening. Because *NEW* Style pages are always offered for 5 tickets each and will only be placed in the grab-bag when the event goes live the next time and a new style is introduced.

According to UESP you should only get the following things from the grab-bag during this Witches Festival:

• Apple-Bobbing Fresh Gorapples
• Runebox: Hollowjack Spectre Mask
• Runebox: Pumpkin Spectre Mask
• Runebox: Scarecrow Spectre Mask
• Runebox: Thicketman Spectre Mask
• Runebox: Witch's Bonfire Memento
• Runebox: Marshmallow Toasty Treat Emote
• Runebox: Ghastly Visitation Memento
• Witch-Tamed Bear-Dog pet fragments
• Skeletal Marionette Parts
• Any page of the Hollowjack Crafting Motif
• Witchmother's Servant Style Pages

If you do manage to get the whole new Style now, you won't be having problems with getting it during next year Festival from the bag and instead will have better chances to get all the other stuff you are missing .

code65536

They never should have discontinued them.

If they're going to tie them to an achievement, then it MUST NOT BE DISCONTINUED. They made the same mistake with the Hollowjack motifs, and had to backtrack by adding them to the event writs.

The other problem with the bones is that you need 10 of them. And each grab bag draw gets you just one piece. If you got a pack of 10 out of the grab bag, maybe this wouldn't be so egregious. But just one? This one single collectible will eat up as many grab bag tickets than all of the other grab bag items combined.

That's not okay.

But hey, people gave this feedback when they originally discontinued it and ZOS doesn't give a damn. It's fine for us old-timers who completed it years ago, but screw the new guys, right?

@ZOS_Kevin

Monte_Cristo

ApoAlaia wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

What confuses me is that I have the memento but not the achievement. And I can't buy the grab bags either to get parts to get the achievement ''again'' because it says I already have everything that comes from them.

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I had the same issue.

I have no idea what happened here and where did the memento come from but the only thing I could do is stalk the guild traders for 'cheap' parts.

Took a couple of years but fortunately I managed in the end without having to spend a fortune.

Most likely, you got the memento before account wide achievements came in. I've got a pair of jester fest ones that I can never do now, as I'd made the memento with a toon that got deleted before awa.

Veinblood1965

It sucks but I had about 6k crowns left and had been saving them. I decided to just buy event tickets with them which are 250 crowns per ticket. I ended up getting 6 Bone fragments and 8 skeletal marionette parts (apparently it is currated) and a mask of some sort. I just need one for marionette part and ran out of crowns.

I didn't want to have to wait another freaking year to try it again. I'm severely unhappy however, probably the most I've been disappointed with this game since the day I started playing. It's not like we can get these parts during other events, so we can wait a year and try again or.....

Achievements should NOT be related to discontinued items period.After all what is an achievement? Opening a darn bag? Or buying said bag with crowns? Doesn't feel like an achievement to me.

I'm sure hoping it's probably an oversight on ZoS's part as the achievement wording still says plunder skulls, it is a huge game after all if the only way to get an achievement is to use tickets that is just wrong in so many ways.

ArchMikem

I'm dealing with that problem too, my Achievement is sitting at 9/10 parts. No major Guild Trader on Xbox NA I've gone to is selling them and I've been at a loss if they drop anywhere else. I'll need to log back in today and check the Impresario for that Grab Bag.

Veinblood1965

ArchMikem wrote: »

I'm dealing with that problem too, my Achievement is sitting at 9/10 parts. No major Guild Trader on Xbox NA I've gone to is selling them and I've been at a loss if they drop anywhere else. I'll need to log back in today and check the Impresario for that Grab Bag.

Well from what I've learned it is curated so if you've got everything else that can be gotten from the bag you'll get the part. Same issue on PS4 NA server, there were about 3 for sale total and seriously high.