ESO players seem more entitled than ever

wolfie1.0.

the lines between a request for a feature/change/item and entitlement, is a very subjective one. One one persons reasonable request is another persons entitled pain point. There have been some incidents very publicly in the gaming world around those differences in recent years.

At the end of the day though it is a matter of opinion. there have been many requests that have been many requests that have hit the forums, some granted others ignored.

entitlement can be anything really. up to and including the following topics.
Overland content should be harder
Fake tanks are a problem
Class change tokens
Account Wide Achievements
In Game Guild House search functions
Addon restrictions
Global Trading Stores
Crown Gifting disabled
Broken PVP Servers
Such and Such class needs a nerf
I have too much gold and not enough to spend it on


Like a I said it can be anything really, its very subjective, and often its how you present your issue that decides it for people.

One could even say that this discussion, is a display of entitlement... from a certain point of view.

Aislinna

Arizona_Steve wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

When people ask for content to be more easily accessible I think they do it mostly to be able to see the stories: I would like to be able to Solo Raids, but I have no interest at all in seeing my name in leaderboards. I just want to see the story without having to group with 11 strangers.

I'm the same, but I prefer solo content to group content for one main reason: I hate Hate HATE letting the other members of my group down.

Case in point. I did a Bastion Nymic a few days ago. I was fine until the last boss and then:

I messed up somewhere and got one-shotted.
I was resurrected by one of the other players - and was immediately one-shotted again.
And after getting resurrected again I died once more before the boss went down.

Now, I've done several of these during the Telvanni event and managed to stay alive. But the above was embarrassing and I have not attempted a Bastion Nymic since.

While you feel embarassed, I can 99% guarantee the other 3 people in that group do not even remember the run. Shake it off and go back and have fun.

wolfie1.0.

Soarora wrote: »

Asking for change is not inherently entitlement…

Real examples of entitlement I have seen here on the forums:
- Wanting the PvP motif that requires a certain rank and lots of tel var to be accessible to PvErs even though the entire point of the motif is to show off as a PvPer… as said by ZOS.
- Wanting vet and HM and trifecta content nerfed so that there’s no prog or very limited prog. Down with months long trial trifecta prog groups because that’s not how they want to play the game and they don’t think anyone should play the game that way…
- Wanting a way to get event tickets during midyear mayhem— the PVP event— without stepping foot in a PvP zone even though it’s easy to avoid PvP especially with some foreplanning. Weeks leading up to the event large groups of PvErs run around and stock up on quests. Some PvPers but it doesn’t matter if you die unless you’re hunting tel var. Can even run right past several enemy players.
- Wanting dungeon challenger rewards, particularly personalities, dropped down in difficulty to obtain.
- Wanting PvP ranks to be easier to obtain for a PvEr because of the dyes/furnishings

Tldr; stepping on the toes of players who do content that they do not do to suggest that said content should be easier or rewardless because they want a place in content they don’t think they like. Entitlement of ease of content or entitlement to every reward or achievement in the game.

What is not entitlement:
- Wishing for more overland content
- Not wanting their build nerfed
- Not wanting to join a guild
- Wanting to be able to duo or solo with companion(s) normal dungeons
- Wanting more sets to be viable

Tldr; suggestions that pertain to their usual gameplay and would not really affect anyone else.

See its all a matter of perspective

Because by your own TLDR statement, those items that you labled as comming from a place of entitlement are not, and those that you labled as not entitled in fact are:

These Items, impact everyone else and thus can be viewed as entitlement by other players and/or ZOS:
- Wishing for more overland content
- Not wanting their build nerfed
- Not wanting to join a guild
- Wanting to be able to duo or solo with companion(s) normal dungeons
- Wanting more sets to be viable

I am not saying that i dont agree with you on some aspects, if more moderately so. but i really want to highlight that this whole topic is subjective, and that one persons reasonable request is another persons entitled player.

sarahthes

One thing I will say, as an endgame raider - old 12 man content is nerfed over time just due to power creep.

If you don't think you can clear stuff now but want the rewards, just wait until they're accessible.

Redguards_Revenge

I can't believe the thread maker got over 50 likes.

Thread maker I will tell you this.

I have accepted that I won't have the newest chapter until 3 years after they release.

I have accepted I won't have the best set in the game making me not the best in pvp and pve.

I have accepted that I will always have to waste 1 hour every day to clean my inventory.

I have accepted that redguard will never be buffed with some other races and I will be inferior for playing redguard

I have accepted that there will be people like you who value your time being wasted...for now...for a game that can announce their closure at any point. Making all achievements time spent worthless.

I have accepted that right now you don't realize that the people and their interactions make the game. Not your gold amount, not your achievements, not your assets, not your will upon others, not your perceived superiority above others.

I have accepted that you don't have over 20 years of playing MMOs and this one is probably your main one. You can't see what kills MMOs and if you had your way like the many MMOs before, you'll kill the game.



I will leave you with something I posted a year ago.

This is why pure RNG kills MMOs in the long run. There should always be a way to obtain things without RNG besides from buying it in a volatile ever increasing priced markets. For example, turning other gold leads into some lead coins and then buying the lead of choice.

How does RNG kill MMOs? I glad you asked. Here's the SKINNY on it...as less people run dungeons, grab materials, etc. The prices go up simply because there is nobody in those dungeons bringing the stuff to market.

Trust me over 20 years of playing MMOs i've seen the rise and fall of many...and then in my opinion the disturbing state of when whales and well off end game players keep it up. When that happens the prices of things are so expensive, newer players can't get into the game and the game dies for the general population. You have the ones still clinging to the game not wanting to give up all of what they did in it. A new endgame player that can replace the small population is born every 4-5 months.

Luckily ESO is not at that point yet...I can happily play the game knowing this. I know it's end. When it gets there, I'll be long gone lol.


Do you know in yesterday 2023, I finally got Dregh King Slayer dagger. Something I've been trying to get for 5 or 6 years ago? That set was something back in the day, now it's worthless. All those runs to get it to drop and nothing. I actually laughed when I saw it and threw it right out of my inventory.

Few people in life take a step back and see how the whole picture affects them. It is why catastrophic failures occur and there are ripple effects that are felt far away.

I have accepted that you won't get any of this until ESO shuts down or you get old enough to realize you just don't have that time to waste anymore. Either one is a reality that will occur so long as you stay human.

Braffin

Amottica wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Customers are entitled to make feature requests. I don't see the issue. Everyone has their own opinion about how they'd like the game to play out. Devs take the feedback from all types and then make a game that will sell to a broad range of people. Pretty much the nature of online games.

This. I fail to see how someone's request would upset other players. Our opinions and their opinions do nothing in and of themselves other than inform Zenimax of a suggestion. It is them who decide and Zenimax is more likely to want to maintain the integrity of the game rather than ner difficulty.

Sure, requesting a feature or change isn't entitled but a more or less reasonable demand. But if someone is demanding changes for other players, while ignoring already present solutions for their problem or devaluing different playstyles it's entitlement and should be called so.

Two examples, which were brought up quite often lately:
1) It's not entitled to request a better dungeon experience for myself. But if I say "My way to play dungeons is the only and rightful way and everyone who does it in a different should face disciplinary action." while I refuse to run in premades, it gets problematic and deserves to be antagonized.
2) Arguing in favor of crossplay is perfectly viable. Calling all PC users "cheaters" for using (officially allowed and supported) add-ons isn't anymore. That's insulting and entitled.

TaSheen

Braffin wrote: »

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2) Arguing in favor of crossplay is perfectly viable. Calling all PC users "cheaters" for using (officially allowed and supported) add-ons isn't anymore. That's insulting and entitled.

The really odd thing about this is that the most vocal of those calling out PC users in this way is.... a PC user....

Amottica

sarahthes wrote: »

Anifaas wrote: »

The majority are casuals but the endgame is designed for self-proclaimed elites who subscribe to streamer culture. ZOS is the one who created this 80/20 split and this discontent is inevitable.

Wut?

The majority of ESO streamers are housing streamers.

Housing is the real endgame confirmed!

I agree. Those who somehow call themselves elite and the streamers are not behind the design of end-game content. I fail to see the logic in saying it does.

spartaxoxo

TaSheen wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

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2) Arguing in favor of crossplay is perfectly viable. Calling all PC users "cheaters" for using (officially allowed and supported) add-ons isn't anymore. That's insulting and entitled.

The really odd thing about this is that the most vocal of those calling out PC users in this way is.... a PC user....

Not really. "Cheats" doesn't just mean someone did something against the rules to everyone. It can also mean someone enabled an easy mode instead of playing vanilla. Like the old cheat codes of yesteryear that were in a lot of old PC and console games e.g. the Konami code. Since PC players are the ones that have to run groups with people using add-ons, they're probably the ones with the most opinions about them too.

Shagreth

@Jierdanit I get that and agree 100%. However, hopefully you don't also consider people as 'entitled' for saying that the game has a broken reward system for its general activities (i.e. things to chase from dungeons, be it cosmetics etc.) it's the objective truth that 90% of the coolest stuff just ends up in the store or crates. Had to ask. :P

As for your point, many and I mean *MANY* people around here sound like they'd be much happier playing, say, Skyrim, but alas. I've seen some requests that make me question everything, but at the end of the day.. I try to sympathize. ESO's community is unique like that, never have I witnessed this in any other MMO community, I guess it has to do with the game's legacy.

SilverBride

Muizer wrote: »

I don't think entitlement is a problem in itself. It's what people do with it. For instance, lately there have been threads about "being forced to play ToT". Now I can understand that people don't want to. I can understand when people would like an alternative way to get their lead drops. What I do not like is when this is followed up with the insinuation that ToT is somehow second rate content that should be removed / never been added.

I started one of those threads after my frustration trying to get the Inkwood Box lead for the new Glyphic Secrets Music Box. I played 42 games of ToT before this finally dropped.

Luckily I had played a lot of ToT previously so I knew how to play, but what about the players that are trying to get this lead that have never played ToT? It is not a game you can quickly learn and become proficient at. Then add to that how much more difficult even the Novice NPCs are now and a lot of players won't even have a chance.

Then there is the fact that ToT has absolutely nothing to do with the Necrom chapter. If they had put a lead for the Druid's music box from the High Isle chapter in ToT it would make more sense because that is where ToT was introduced. But this music box has no connection to ToT at all.

Mesite

I delayed doing trials for years but then I watched a YouTube video by a well known streamer who explained normal trials were easier than vet dungeons. Went to Craglorn, joined a random group and it was no problem. Delayed doing PVP- went to Cyrodiil and it's mostly empty. But I won't be going for trifectas. So I won't get the achievement.

I would like to say I don't spend money on ESO regularly, but I bought the chapters for the last two years specifically to take part in the events (and get the house this year), but it's been great both years, so no regrets.

What percentage of people become Emperor? Everyone should get a go at that. Would it become easier to get the Emperor achievement if there are fewer people in Cyrodiil?

spartaxoxo

SilverBride wrote: »

I've been told that only wins give a chance at the lead.

Only wins advance the daily quest. You get a box that has a chance for the lead, win or lose.

SeaGtGruff

I think that opinions about "entitlement" and "whining" are very often dependent on one's own opinion.

What I mean is, I think that if you see someone complaining about something that you also happen to take issue with, you're less likely to see that person's complaint as whining or entitlement.

But if you happen to take the opposite view about some topic, then I think you're more likely to see someone else's complaint as whining and entitlement.

In contrast, I think it's more difficult to identify "whining" and "entitlement" among people who are taking issue with something that you also happen to take issue with, just not quite so... passionately.

For example, some players are currently up in arms about a purely cosmetic effect that is irking them to the point that they are saying they've canceled their ESO Plus and encouraging others to do the same. I spoke up in appreciation of the effect and was told that my opinion doesn't matter because it's a "bug"-- even though ZOS had already said it's "working as intended"-- and therefore it needs to be "fixed." Yet I also said that while I happen to like the effect on my main weapon, I dislike it on my backbar weapon. I wouldn't go so far as to call the visual effect a "bug" in contradiction to what ZOS has said, but I do think it could use some tweaking to adjust certain things that seem "buggy" or "not quite right" about it. Yet I dare not contribute any more of my thoughts to the threads about it, because the majority of the people posting in those threads apparently want to restrict the "discussion" to what seems an awful lot like whining to me, and I've been made to feel that I should just keep my mouth shut if I'm not going to whine and complain about it along with everyone else.

The reason that particular uproar strikes me as whining and entitlement is because it's a purely cosmetic (or visual) effect that doesn't have any effect on actual gameplay-- role play and fashion play, perhaps, but not gameplay in the sense of skills firing or not firing, or core combat features such as blocking working or not working. Meanwhile there are some very real issues in the game that do affect actual gameplay. So even though I'm inclined to agree that there are certain aspects of the cosmetic effect which seem buggy, I'm not about to elevate that particular issue to a level of importance where apparently the devs are expected to drop everything and fix the "bug" while non-cosmetic problems still affect gameplay and performance. But mostly, the reactions one gets if one says anything not in full agreement with the crowd is what makes it seem entitled to me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but if people on one side of an issue seem to want to silence any opinions not identical to theirs, then it becomes entitlement in my view-- "I'm entitled to have an opinion but you aren't entitled to express your differing opinion."

In a lot of impassioned discussions it's become safest to just ignore the uproars and avoid voicing any opinion that goes even partly against the crowd's opinion, which is not a good state of affairs. "If you have nothing to say then don't say anything" is one thing, but "If you aren't going to fully agree with me then keep silent" is something else entirely.

Dova_13

I've been playing this game for years for one reason: it's an elder scrolls. When Tes 6 comes out I will say goodbye to this game. I've played pve and pvp content, and I've enjoyed the mmo part. However, for many of us who play for being part of the saga, the mmo part is far from the essence of a Tes. As I said, I understand that it is an mmo. The gap between new and veteran players, in my opinion, occurs because new players only want to level up fast, without learning the most essential mechanics. And veteran or endgame players, their circle is extremely closed. Meta are a problem, at least for me. In my case, despite having been playing for a long time and knowing the mechanics, I have not even been able to try certain achievements, just for the sake of going to melee and stamina. The meta was always the magic or ranged builds, so no matter how much you know the mechanics, if you play in a certain way even if you go with sets and so on, you are excluded. My problem is that I'm a completionist, and I always like to get achievements with a lot of effort, I don't want anything easy. But I have resigned myself to many of them, trifectas, hms in tests and so on, because of my style of play (melee and stamina). I have almost all the achievements that can be done alone. I've always been adaptable, but I'm not going to keep playing in a way I'm not comfortable with.

Being a pve player, when I wanted the achievement for fishing in imperial city or Cyrodiil, I would prepare a set, knowing I was going to a pvp zone. If you want something there is no point crying about how to get it. When I wanted the emperor title, I spent a sleepless night, playing alone, with groups of randoms in cyrodiil. I compensated for my meager pvp skills with effort and sacrifice. I never complained about this or that being in pvp zone. War is war.

Achievements are just that. Learning, progression, effort and dedication. New players just want to level up quickly by skipping stages. Zos should take a serious look at the meta issue. Do you know what it's like to be in a group of 12 players where only one player goes to melee and all the others, including the tank, go with their staffs and magic? Not to mention if you go to stamina. That's not The elder scrolls. My journey in this age of tamriel will end when Tes 6 comes out.

And if this game loses any of the essence of the elder scrolls, my journey will be over sooner.

TaSheen

Dova_13 wrote: »

I've been playing this game for years for one reason: it's an elder scrolls. When Tes 6 comes out I will say goodbye to this game.

Interesting. I, on the other hand, will continue to play ESO, and add TES VI to my game play time. ESO has a lot of things I really love. The things I don't love, I don't mess with.

Of course, it's dollars to doughnuts whether I'll still be playing games (or even alive) by the time bethsoft gets off its ass to release TES VI. Yes, I'm WELL aware that lengthy release schedules are normal for this studio - after all, I've been playing TES since Arena released in 1994....

Castagere

For me, ESO's best feature is I get to play it like a single-player TES game. I have no use for group content or PVP. This way I don't need a guild to be in. If this ever changes I will quit.

Jierdanit

Shagreth wrote: »

@Jierdanit I get that and agree 100%. However, hopefully you don't also consider people as 'entitled' for saying that the game has a broken reward system for its general activities (i.e. things to chase from dungeons, be it cosmetics etc.) it's the objective truth that 90% of the coolest stuff just ends up in the store or crates. Had to ask. :P

As for your point, many and I mean *MANY* people around here sound like they'd be much happier playing, say, Skyrim, but alas. I've seen some requests that make me question everything, but at the end of the day.. I try to sympathize. ESO's community is unique like that, never have I witnessed this in any other MMO community, I guess it has to do with the game's legacy.

I dont think someone asking for more stuff to be earned through playing the game is entitled. In my opinion it is perfectly fine to want more rewards, as long as you are willing to play the content required to get them.

My problem is with the exact opposite, when people are asking for rewards without actually being willing to complete the content they are locked behind. Whether that is an achievement, a specific piece of gear or something else.

To basically everyone in this game there are some things that they will most likely never get. Some wont get stuff from PvP, others wont get Trial rewards, because they either dont want to do that content or are not good enough at it.
I just dont get why people think they would be entitled to those rewards without doing the content.

Dova_13

TaSheen wrote: »

Dova_13 wrote: »

I've been playing this game for years for one reason: it's an elder scrolls. When Tes 6 comes out I will say goodbye to this game.

Interesting. I, on the other hand, will continue to play ESO, and add TES VI to my game play time. ESO has a lot of things I really love. The things I don't love, I don't mess with.

Of course, it's dollars to doughnuts whether I'll still be playing games (or even alive) by the time bethsoft gets off its ass to release TES VI. Yes, I'm WELL aware that lengthy release schedules are normal for this studio - after all, I've been playing TES since Arena released in 1994....

I have played the whole saga, with the exception of Battlespire and Redguard (I still have them pending). Teso is a stop along the way, a long one at that. My priority will be Tes 6, we'll see how things will be in that time. ESO is a The elder scrolls, so it helps in the wait.

SilverBride

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I've been told that only wins give a chance at the lead.

Only wins advance the daily quest. You get a box that has a chance for the lead, win or lose.

Oh, then I was told wrong. I edited my post to correct that. Thanks for clarifying.

However it is still a very low drop rate and those that have never played ToT will still have a very hard time of it.

Bobargus

I am willing to pay for my future entitlements and desires as a casual player.

I want the difficulty scaling, spellcrafting/magic schools, and the dragon shout abilities. All of these exist in Skyrim, and i am willing to pay for these features seperately.

To be honest, in my opinion, it is less so about the lore and balance of the game, and more about the developers earning money by giving us players what we want.

If people were to just accept things as they are, i don't think the developers could find avenues in terms of selling us new stuff.

tl,dr: Developers count on the entitlements and desires of the players who are willing to pay.

M_Volsung

I, for one, would love a PvE instance of Cyrodil, I also don't give a wet slap about the pvp rewards, I Just want to wander around the map without being ganked by someone [snip]

[edited for trolling]

Remathilis

Jierdanit wrote: »

Everyday you see new threads in which people are asking ZOS to make certain things easier to get or to give something that would require playing a different area of the game to them without actually having to play those parts of the game.
This is most noticeable during Midyear Mayhem when you get several threads a day about people complaining that they have to PvP to get their tickets, during the only PvP event there is.

Some other examples are PvE players generally asking for a PvE version of Cyrodiil or IC, casual PvE players asking for access to Endgame PvE like Trials and generally players asking to further lower the gap between the floor and the ceiling.

I don't understand how it is so hard for players to accept that there is stuff they won't get unless they take part in every part of the game. I have never done a Trial in ESO simply because I can't be bothered to do PvE, especially in a group of 12 people and I don't expect to get the rewards from Trials while not doing them.
I barely ever get Tickets from the PvE events, because they are super boring to me so I rarely take part, but that is just how it is, you dont get something if you dont do the content.

Generally a lot of people seem to be against other players being more effective than them, even if it is because they put way more work into their chars or are just considerably more skilled/experienced and constantly act like they're entitled to everything in the game simply because they bought it.

How do people want to get everything in the game handed to them, without them having to actually do the content? For me that would completely destroy every sense of achievement I'd get from it.

[snip]

There is no event in ESO that requires you to go into a trial. There is one event that requires you to do dungeons and you can do nFG1 solo to get your tix. Every other event is overland content you can do solo with all white gear and not fail. But twice I year, I'm expected to offer myself up to the meat grinder of Cyrodill and IC. There is no nFG1 version of PVP, the closest is the horse-riding simulator of scouting reports.

[snip]

I'm personally waiting for the Antiquities event where tickets come from digging up Antiquities leads, or the tribute event where your tix come from Tales of Tribute coffers.

[edited for baiting]

boi_anachronism_

Remathilis wrote: »

Jierdanit wrote: »

Everyday you see new threads in which people are asking ZOS to make certain things easier to get or to give something that would require playing a different area of the game to them without actually having to play those parts of the game.
This is most noticeable during Midyear Mayhem when you get several threads a day about people complaining that they have to PvP to get their tickets, during the only PvP event there is.

Some other examples are PvE players generally asking for a PvE version of Cyrodiil or IC, casual PvE players asking for access to Endgame PvE like Trials and generally players asking to further lower the gap between the floor and the ceiling.

I don't understand how it is so hard for players to accept that there is stuff they won't get unless they take part in every part of the game. I have never done a Trial in ESO simply because I can't be bothered to do PvE, especially in a group of 12 people and I don't expect to get the rewards from Trials while not doing them.
I barely ever get Tickets from the PvE events, because they are super boring to me so I rarely take part, but that is just how it is, you dont get something if you dont do the content.

Generally a lot of people seem to be against other players being more effective than them, even if it is because they put way more work into their chars or are just considerably more skilled/experienced and constantly act like they're entitled to everything in the game simply because they bought it.

How do people want to get everything in the game handed to them, without them having to actually do the content? For me that would completely destroy every sense of achievement I'd get from it.

[snip]

There is no event in ESO that requires you to go into a trial. There is one event that requires you to do dungeons and you can do nFG1 solo to get your tix. Every other event is overland content you can do solo with all white gear and not fail. But twice I year, I'm expected to offer myself up to the meat grinder of Cyrodill and IC. There is no nFG1 version of PVP, the closest is the horse-riding simulator of scouting reports.

[snip]

I'm personally waiting for the Antiquities event where tickets come from digging up Antiquities leads, or the tribute event where your tix come from Tales of Tribute coffers.

Omg if they have a tot event im throwing in the towel. I already did it endlessly for the music box lead. Never again. Antiquities i'll dig up tot? No thank you. The tickets aint worth the pain 🙃 im a pve friend but i'll deal with the miserable pvp meta for a month before i do that for a week.

[edited to remove quote]

Bluepetunia

Last night in zone chat several people were talking about the house given as a reward in the current event. How some hated it saying it was too small, its ugly etc. The house has the same stats as the Antiquarian's Alpine Gallery (another free house earned during an event). I personally love the place and look forward to decorated.

Also they complained about the body/face markings earned. I agreed with some, it looks as though we all drew all over ourselves with a sharpie.

I see in zone chats where people complain about the free things given, "how cheap of ZOS, what were they thinking, I could think of better...etc" Usually most complaints I admit are mostly during free ESO plus events. Where players come in for the first time and complain about the game, start rude comments.

darvaria

"Entitlement" is now just a core value of our society. It's not surprising this has filtered over to the game. MMO's simply can not require what they used to. Most of the player base won't accept it. So yes, they feel entitled to more, more & more.

katanagirl1

M_Volsung wrote: »

I, for one, would love a PvE instance of Cyrodil, I also don't give a wet slap about the pvp rewards, I Just want to wander around the map without being ganked by someone [snip]

[edited for trolling]

Even during prime time and on the weekends, there is only one campaign that has any players and that is Gray Host. All others have 0 bars each alliance, at least on my server.

You are free to do all the stuff you want and almost certainly never see another player the whole time.

Paralyse

Although I do have a lot of titles, I must respectfully disagree with OP. If anything, I'd like to see MORE player titles in the game, to provide a wider variety of "flavor" for each toon.

I feel that in comparison to games such as WoW, ESO has far fewer interesting player titles available, and it would add to the game's diversity if ESO also added in some humorous, droll and self-deprecating titles to go with the ones already in the game.

boi_anachronism_

Paralyse wrote: »

Although I do have a lot of titles, I must respectfully disagree with OP. If anything, I'd like to see MORE player titles in the game, to provide a wider variety of "flavor" for each toon.

I feel that in comparison to games such as WoW, ESO has far fewer interesting player titles available, and it would add to the game's diversity if ESO also added in some humorous, droll and self-deprecating titles to go with the ones already in the game.

I want one for collecting an obscene amount of potatos. I would like to be master potato or grand high potato. Id wear it to all my hm runs 😆

Shagreth

Jierdanit wrote: »

To basically everyone in this game there are some things that they will most likely never get. Some wont get stuff from PvP, others wont get Trial rewards, because they either dont want to do that content or are not good enough at it.
I just dont get why people think they would be entitled to those rewards without doing the content.

I agree. But you have to understand that we are the minority, that's why overland content can be finished by being naked and with a lvl 1 weapon.

I even hate how people complained about leads being too hard to farm. Farming for something in an mmo game, imagine that. Now you basically get leads with the first try, might as well let us click a UI element to get them. @ZOS_GinaBruno don't forget people like us please.