Are heavy attack builds dead now?

acastanza_ESO

i11ionward wrote: »

Why are the Tri-Focus changes associated with PVP? The last tick of lighting staff HA still procs Tri-Focus, and the Tri-Focus will still hit players in PVP when using HA on monster. Am I wrong? The problem of Tri-Focus in pvp is not solved, why then do many keep saying that the changes were made because of pvp?

Correct, this is not even anything more than a bandaid for the PVP exploit.

Beefstickbandit

I am so unhappy with the Tri-focus changes. To add insult to injury, heavy attacks fail so often it's going to make lightning staff so cumbersome. My disappointment is immense and my gaming has been ruined since the 9.0 patch notes were released.

i11ionward

Beefstickbandit wrote: »

I am so unhappy with the Tri-focus changes. To add insult to injury, heavy attacks fail so often it's going to make lightning staff so cumbersome. My disappointment is immense and my gaming has been ruined since the 9.0 patch notes were released.

Why so much crying about change? In a single target, the DPS remained the same. For trash fights, add AoE skills like Wall of Elements/Caltrops/Mystic Orb/Class AoE skill , weak targets will just die from the skills, and strong targets will still take damage from Tri-Focus, 50% of what it was before, but it's still decent, plus damage from AoE skills. I currently play HA sorc in PVE and will continue to play it after the update is released, the only thing is that I will most likely replace my Storm Master Set with a set with a more general bonus to all skills like Order's Wrath or some kind of proc set.

Norith_Gilheart_Flail

Because close enough is not good enough, that's why people are unhappy.

ZhuJiuyin

I admit that HA build is indeed powerful, easy and convenient, but the power of HA build is not as exaggerated as many people say.

And somewhat ironically, HA Sorc is the build with the highest AOE damage for Sorc, because Sorc lacks a reliable source of AOE and Buff.

Crystal Shard Single Target
Daedric Mines Single Target
Daedric Curse single target (explosion splash is low Area damage)
2 pets single target (Volatile Familiar's skill is low Area damage)
Bound Armaments Single Target
Mages' Wrath single target (for targets with 20% health, the effect is Area)
Lightning Form Area
Lightning Splash Area
Bolt Escape Area

statistics
7 Single Target: 3 Area

Unless the Area effect of the additional effect of the skill is also included, then:
7 single targets: 6 Area (including at least 2 low-damage AOE)

This is why HA Sorc will be loved by many players, simple and powerful AOE.
And most of the time, it is difficult for Sorc to play the Increases Shock Damage effect of passive Energized, and HA build can play Energized more effectively. And it can also provide the source of Major Prophecy that Sorc has been calling for.


Therefore, in many cases, players do not choose HA build voluntarily, but are forced to choose HA to get better AOE damage. If the official really thinks that the AOE of the HA build is too strong, maybe they should also reflect on why Sorc's AOE ability and Buff sources are so scarce, so many Sorc players must rely on the HA build.

Quethrosar

won't be dead, might even be stronger with single target, but days of everyone being HA and taking down 20 mobs is numbered without using other skills, this is how i have read it all.