Patch Maintenance on Juneteenth

spartaxoxo

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

AND, it may be a classified as a federal holiday, but it was left up to the states as to whether they recognize it at all, and very few (only a handful) do.
There aren't that many areas that are affected.

That's not true.

Every state has at some point passed a resolution recognizing Juneteenth at least as a day of observance – even those that do not count Juneteenth among their official public holidays. An observance is a day of awareness that isn’t accompanied by a day off.

It is a Federal holiday, which makes it recognized as a nation. And every state individually recognizes it as either a holiday or day of observance.

spartaxoxo

barney2525 wrote: »

It's at 4 am (EST)

Maintenance starts at 10pm EST, and 7PM for those on the West Coast.

jle30303

Note that whatever you may think of it in America, it is not a *worldwide* holiday, or even a worldwide event. Similarly, we Brits may make a big thing of November 5th and Guy Fawkes Day but we don't ask the rest of the world to go along with it :-)

FantasticFreddie

Guys servers has been up for a half hour. It's ok. You can play

spartaxoxo

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin

As you guys are looking at maintenance stuff and maybe sometimes checking the forum, could you pass along this feedback? Also is there a general way you guys schedule maintenance when it comes to holidays or has it been mostly coincidence that most holidays have been avoided?

MidniteOwl1913

Elsonso wrote: »

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

Maintenance will be finished by 9am on the east coast, and hence, even earlier in the other US time zones.
How is this such a huge imposition?

I think that the "imposition" is that tomorrow's Necrom release on the console servers starts today at 10 pm ET, which is 7 pm PT.

Yup! For a number folks like me who can't play until the evening, it's a total lost day.

M0ntie

If you’re in Australia, where we mostly use the NA server the maintenance is ALWAYS during our prime playing time in the evening. So count your blessings that this is a very rare event that you’re losing play time.

redlink1979

An online game needs regular maintenance at some point. And you can't please the entire world at the same time.

morrowjen

jle30303 wrote: »

Note that whatever you may think of it in America, it is not a *worldwide* holiday, or even a worldwide event. Similarly, we Brits may make a big thing of November 5th and Guy Fawkes Day but we don't ask the rest of the world to go along with it :-)

In fairness, Americans get less time off work than most of the world by a considerable amount. And most Americans only get a handful of federally recognized holidays off (seriously we get the 4th, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Memorial Day, and Labor Day and that's about it) unless they work for a bank, school, or the federal government and even then some pick from the few recognized holidays so you don't get all of them off. I think the main issue here isn't asking that you or anyone else care or even know that the day exists but that for those who do get some free time from it, they'd like to be able to play on one of those precious days off from work.

By and large though, Americans would readily adopt any holiday even Guy Fawkes day (which is actually kinda awesome). We're eclectic and have no issue with that.

Vhozek

SacredNym wrote: »

If you can't do it for every holiday in the world, then it shouldn't be done.

Alternatively, if Americans are entitled to have their holidays free of maintenance, then so is the rest of the world.

Stuff happens, put up with it, move on.

F A C T S

spartaxoxo

Vhozek wrote: »

SacredNym wrote: »

If you can't do it for every holiday in the world, then it shouldn't be done.

Alternatively, if Americans are entitled to have their holidays free of maintenance, then so is the rest of the world.

Stuff happens, put up with it, move on.

F A C T S

No company celebrates every single holiday in the entire world. They give their employees the day based off their local area. I doubt most people would want to work at a company that didn't have any holidays at all because they couldn't celebrate every single holiday in the entire world.

This the main "anti" argument I've seen in the thread. That an American company giving it's American employees an easier day so that both them and their American customers can wind down for the day is somehow unfair to the whole world. Personally I was glad when the EU servers got Easter Monday maintenance moved, even though it's not really a thing in the US.

FeedbackOnly

This makes sense for the future. Ingoring the political side of it, it is a federal holiday now, so should fall in line with the rest of them

Vhozek

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

This makes sense for the future. Ingoring the political side of it, it is a federal holiday now, so should fall in line with the rest of them

It's only a federal holiday so the people who created it can get paid on a day off or whatever number of days off.

Elsonso

IMHO... The only reason that I can see for ZOS to not distribute a patch on this holiday, or any holiday, is when ZOS is not working that day. If ZOS is working that day, then it is a work day and server maintenance should be allowed to happen if they want to do it.