I Want ESO Classic

Trinotops

I'd pay any amount of money to play pre One Tamriel ESO again. Back when there was no lag. No crown crates. Back when I was still hopeful for the game's future.
I don't care if no one plays it. I just want to go back.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

What did Pre-One Tamriel have.

- No Furniture Interactions
- No Housing,
- No DLC content
- No Outfit station
- No Transmute Station
- No Custom Personalities
- No Warden
- No Necromancer
- No Crafting Bag
- No Battlegrounds
- Veteran Ranks instead of Champion Points making it take an extremely long time to level a character
- Level based zones which made lower level content irrelevant
- Inability to play with anyone from another alliance outside of Craglorn

Are you really sure you would want to play that again?

Trinotops

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Are you really sure you would want to play that again?

Yes.

richieh99

The game now is in a much better state than it was before. Losing all the things that were listed above would be a terrible shame.

OnnuK

After beta I subbed 9 months and left it, are you sure about the vanilla ESO? It did not feel like a TES series, and no incentive to play. But now I love ESO as it is, even with its bugs and crown crate tricks...

Tradewind

Trinotops wrote: »

I'd pay any amount of money to play pre One Tamriel ESO again. Back when there was no lag. No crown crates. Back when I was still hopeful for the game's future.
I don't care if no one plays it. I just want to go back.

Deep down, you know that it is unlikely to happen. But even worse than ESO losing its identity as an Elder Scrolls game is the fact that ESO is starting to resemble games such as Elden Ring, Dark Souls, and the like. The game now feels like you either do it or move out.

BloodyStigmata

Well there would definitely be no lag since no one would be playing it.

Trinotops

When I say "I want ESO Classic" I don't mean exactly mean "I want ESO with fewer features". I'm talking more about the combat and gameplay which is drastically different now than it was back in the day. It's that and nostalgia, really. Not just in a "old thing good new thing bad" sense, but more the general feeling that I had as a new player at the time. I miss being excited for new content and updates rather than thinking "I wonder if they'll finally fix this" or "I wonder what they'll break this time."

Ragnarok0130

Yuk, I certainly don't want that experience again. I remember classic ESO, it lacked basic things like the justice system, housing, and it was rather bland, and lacked all of the QOL updates that makes ESO such a nice thing to play again. The biggest complain from the community was that ESO didn't feel like an Elder Scrolls game during the vanilla period which ZoS has largely remedied IMO in the intervening years.

ChuckyPayne

I feel the same but a little differently. I would like to play the ESO with only monthly fee wihtout ESO+ and Crown store.
All development and new features about crowns.
I wonder why they haven't invented new deck skins for crowns ^.^

I don't have problem with monthly fee but after log into the game I don't want to see any real money advertrisement and feel about a new features ok it is again about crown store.

phaneub17_ESO

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

What did Pre-One Tamriel have.

- No Furniture Interactions
- No Housing,
- No DLC content
- No Outfit station
- No Transmute Station
- No Custom Personalities
- No Warden
- No Necromancer
- No Crafting Bag
- Veteran Ranks instead of Champion Points making it take an extremely long time to level a character
- Level based zones which made lower level content irrelevant
- Inability to play with anyone from another alliance outside of Craglorn

Are you really sure you would want to play that again?

You forgot soft caps!

Xoelarasizerer

Do you want it back enough that you'd pay ZOS a mandatory $15 monthly fee for it?

I mean you said you'd pay anything. But alas, most wouldn't. If it was appealing enough to more, maybe there could be an idea for an ESO Classic in there on the gameplay front. I'm not sure how much more ESO can drastically change going forward, but maybe as time goes on, it'll change moreso enough that more and more folks will like the idea of a classic option. Afterall, If it's got at least you pining now...

But for now, I doubt it anytime soon. :S

Aorys

ESO was so criticized on launch and because of that I never played before. I only came to play it on 2022/1. I heard it was like dark ages.

React

Combat was undeniably better back then. Full animation cancelling, no cast times on ults, etc. I'd do anything to have that fluidity back.

I also agree about the dread that accompanies the anticipation for each patch now. I am no longer excited whatsoever for updates- they have been breaking core mechanics every patch for over a year now, and many of them don't get fixed for months at a time. It really kills my motivation to play or produce content for the game.

LamiaCritter

The only thing I liked about One Tamriel was the Veteran System.

And that is solely because VR16 seemed far easier to reach than 3.6k Champion points that give you a whopping +2 to magicka for every point spent :T

I preferred the visual of just a flat 'Rank 16' to reach.

ProudMary

I've always wondered how much better performance would be without housing in the mix. The introduction of housing was right about when performance started to go downhill and they started lowering the pop caps in cyrodiil.

Necrotech_Master

LamiaCritter wrote: »

The only thing I liked about One Tamriel was the Veteran System.

And that is solely because VR16 seemed far easier to reach than 3.6k Champion points that give you a whopping +2 to magicka for every point spent :T

I preferred the visual of just a flat 'Rank 16' to reach.

once you max passives and 4 slottables, champion points are meaningless

i have some characters with 150 unspent cp (across the 3 trees) because its not doing anything for me outside of giving me more slottable options to switch around to

SickleCider

Tradewind wrote: »

Trinotops wrote: »

I'd pay any amount of money to play pre One Tamriel ESO again. Back when there was no lag. No crown crates. Back when I was still hopeful for the game's future.
I don't care if no one plays it. I just want to go back.

Deep down, you know that it is unlikely to happen. But even worse than ESO losing its identity as an Elder Scrolls game is the fact that ESO is starting to resemble games such as Elden Ring, Dark Souls, and the like. The game now feels like you either do it or move out.

I need help with this one, I really don't see it.

Ishtarknows

Tradewind wrote: »

But even worse than ESO losing its identity as an Elder Scrolls game is the fact that ESO is starting to resemble games such as Elden Ring, Dark Souls, and the like. The game now feels like you either do it or move out.

Eh?

In what way is ESO becoming like Dark Souls games?

shadyjane62

One thing I've learned in gaming that for myself , you can't go back.Tried it with WoW and failed to tempt me to stay.

I was pre One Tamriel and left after yet another encounter with a bot sitting on a node. I only came back after One Tamriel was debuted and I've never left.

I have a lot of complaints about what ESO has become but not enough to ever wish for a Classic.

Stamicka

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

What did Pre-One Tamriel have.

- No Furniture Interactions
- No Housing,
- No DLC content
- No Outfit station
- No Transmute Station
- No Custom Personalities
- No Warden
- No Necromancer
- No Crafting Bag
- Veteran Ranks instead of Champion Points making it take an extremely long time to level a character
- Level based zones which made lower level content irrelevant
- Inability to play with anyone from another alliance outside of Craglorn

Are you really sure you would want to play that again?

I think Dark Brotherhood and Shadows of the Hist were both amazing patches. They were both pre-One Tamriel, but after the removal of the Vet-ranks. This was kind of the sweet spot era.

I would personally go back still. I think many non-casual players would also. Consider this:

- The Cyrodiil performance was better
- More people played in Cyrodiil, there were more campaigns, and higher population caps
- The balance and combat were better and less homogenized
- There were less broken sets
- DPS was lower, so more things were challenging
- The game wasn't as casual in general
- The monetization was way less predatory

No doubt the addition of dueling, BGs, and new classes were nice. We have also gotten some nice quality of life features since then. I'd definitely say however, that there's been more bad than good for players like me (competitive PvP oriented players). I had so much more to do back then just because PvP was more focused on. Even things like vMA and Veteran dungeons were exciting. I'd love to go back.

danno8

The only thing i really miss from pre-1T is the sense of story and world progression.

Now events and stories are all just happening at the same time, but also happening before and after various other events that are somehow also happening before and after other events or ignoring those other events that maybe are happening too but, well, who knows really.

No wonder the vestige seems so confused every update. They can't keep track of where or when they are.

Amottica

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

What did Pre-One Tamriel have.

- No Furniture Interactions
- No Housing,
- No DLC content
- No Outfit station
- No Transmute Station
- No Custom Personalities
- No Warden
- No Necromancer
- No Crafting Bag
- Veteran Ranks instead of Champion Points making it take an extremely long time to level a character
- Level based zones which made lower level content irrelevant
- Inability to play with anyone from another alliance outside of Craglorn

Are you really sure you would want to play that again?

and our builds were high crit or go home.

Without new content (no DLCs) there is no hope for any game.

Baconlad

Yeah man...stuck at V12 spamming craglorn chat LFG just to finish a basic quest...endlessly grinding for VR...only to get V14 and max out gear just to have cap raised to V16 and throw it all away

Nah man I'm good. I'll take old dark flare back though

DMuehlhausen

While I don't like things 1T brought in I stopped playing due to Veteran Ranks and just having to play through the story on each faction. That was just silly to me.

Got my first character through my faction. Then got to Grahtwood. Left that first town was running to the Argonian camp and was like this is dumb logged out and didn't go back for over a year.

HappyTheCamper

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

What did Pre-One Tamriel have.

- No Furniture Interactions
- No Housing,
- No DLC content
- No Outfit station
- No Transmute Station
- No Custom Personalities
- No Warden
- No Necromancer
- No Crafting Bag
- Veteran Ranks instead of Champion Points making it take an extremely long time to level a character
- Level based zones which made lower level content irrelevant
- Inability to play with anyone from another alliance outside of Craglorn

Are you really sure you would want to play that again?

Done forget about sticker book and curated drops.

Mesite

Dunmer did fire damage. Nightblade had a cool stun on a skill that's now a heal (a heal?). Admittedly I think the argonian's passive only healed himself.

Sarousse42

What ? Do you mean a game where it actualy makes sense to have some fun and difficult fights in overland ?

OH WAIT !

spartaxoxo

Trinotops wrote: »

When I say "I want ESO Classic" I don't mean exactly mean "I want ESO with fewer features". I'm talking more about the combat and gameplay which is drastically different now than it was back in the day. It's that and nostalgia, really. Not just in a "old thing good new thing bad" sense, but more the general feeling that I had as a new player at the time. I miss being excited for new content and updates rather than thinking "I wonder if they'll finally fix this" or "I wonder what they'll break this time."

If they made ESO classic, there wouldn't be any truly new content to look forward to anymore.

endgamesmug

Its ok this game these days something to do sorta thing but before all this changed majorly, this game was hard sure but fun and i felt like i had it down. It was good to be able to interact with other alliance guildies, but overall its become all about something else now.

xclassgaming

The game is still in a good place, while we don't share the same opinion of wanting a ESO classic, i'd like to try it, purely to see if it was as bad as people say it was, or as always, the internet making a bigger fuss then it needed.