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Is it time to start a RP server?
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TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Problem is, it's not just "a server" - it would be three servers.______________________________________________________
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isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭isadoraisacat wrote: »"I'm not sure how the game currently sorts players into copies of a zone but maybe ZOS could add an option for players to be sorted into an RP copy with only other players who have picked that option."
You did question how to keep those not role playing out. That would be really tough to handle. Aside from the trolls you would also have players that would take advantage of a near empty overland to gather resources with no competition.
Maybe they can do some kind of limit on gathering resources and make these areas more for immersion and playing through the quests and story and do resource collecting stuff only on the normal server. I’m sure there is a way to
Balance that or compromise.
That gets back to it being a whole lot of work for what is unfortunately for role players a very niche community. An exact instance to my thinking is much easier to create than would be an instance with different rules.
I also don't see the need for an entire zone. Seems the trolls mostly target confined areas where role players gather. An instance for those confined areas might be a way to go.
We may have a different mindset of what role playing is. To me Role playing is if I’m a Khajiit mage this one plays the role and acts as if he is Khajiit.
Than there is cosplay where someone pretends to be Wonder Woman or something… if that’s what you mean by roleplay that’s not what I mean.
But this is a role playing game so focus on questing and taking your role as a character serious (not tank or healer damage realer). This game since arena but really Daggerfall has always been about immersing yourself into your character.
Not sure if that’s what you mean ?Edited by isadoraisacat on April 26, 2023 2:05AM1 -
vsrs_au✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭None of these proposed changes should actually be necessary. As I already mentioned, we need proper action taken on any complaints of in-game harrassment of any kind. From what I've seen in other threads, we're not getting a satisfactory response to these complaints.PC(Steam) / EU / play from Melbourne, Australia / avg ping 3905 -
isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭None of these proposed changes should actually be necessary. As I already mentioned, we need proper action taken on any complaints of in-game harrassment of any kind. From what I've seen in other threads, we're not getting a satisfactory response to these complaints.
There is a lot of trolling / bullying / inappropriate talk in chat / etc going on that def needs to be addressed3 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I hate to rain on OPs parade but Zenimax will not be creating new servers for RP. Not only would it mean six new servers as there are three platforms across two geographic regions, but Zenimax has stated that the server design, world creation, is built to have larger populations as their reason for not creating additional servers to cater to AUS/SEA regions.
I think it is unfortunate that Zenimax promised the RP community the ability to flag themselves as RP wth the idea that the servers would try to put them into the same instance with no guarantees. I paid attention to this game before launch and shortly after. Zenimax ended up balking on that idea but said they would look for some manner to support the RP community in other manners.
I do not recall any such means to support the RP community happening.
I am not an RPer, but have seen games that supported the RP community very well. It is great to see what can happen such as large gatherings and more. However, it requires players to be able to join the same instance as others via one manner or another.
Good luck getting support for the community in-game.
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disintegr8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'd prefer to see an Oceania based server for those of us in this part of the world who suffer poor connectivity to the existing servers first. I know this won't happen.
At least you can ignore the trolls and/or turn off chat - I can't ignore the lag and frequent disconnects.Edited by disintegr8 on April 26, 2023 11:11AMAustralian on PS4 NA server.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.2 -
rpa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I would not expect them doubling number of databases for each region and platform just for roleplayers. Perhaps it could be possible to put players flagged as roleplayers in their own shard but that may require expert diving into bottom of the code spaghetti bowl.Edited by rpa on April 26, 2023 3:33AM0 -
SaffronCitrusflower✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭isadoraisacat wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
Elder scrolls is a ROLEPLAYING game first.
Elder scrolls is about the lore first. It’s prob the second most expansive fantasy world after middle earth.
Just because you and some elite parse gods make this about combat does not mean that is the center focus.
In fact the combat is one of the reasons true elder scrolls fans won’t play this game and or dip shortly after trying.
So nahhhhhisadoraisacat wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
That’s my point it’s a rpg series first.
Rpg stands for ROLE PLAYING GAME.
RPGs have combat in them but it’s not the only part of the game.
I feel like these people who think this would be better playing call of duty or fort nite or whatever.Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
Except ESO IS NOT an RPG first. It's an MMO first. We know this by reading the box the original game was packaged in.
ESO is an Elder Scrolls THEMED MMO.
Edited by SaffronCitrusflower on April 26, 2023 3:43AM6 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭isadoraisacat wrote: »isadoraisacat wrote: »"I'm not sure how the game currently sorts players into copies of a zone but maybe ZOS could add an option for players to be sorted into an RP copy with only other players who have picked that option."
You did question how to keep those not role playing out. That would be really tough to handle. Aside from the trolls you would also have players that would take advantage of a near empty overland to gather resources with no competition.
Maybe they can do some kind of limit on gathering resources and make these areas more for immersion and playing through the quests and story and do resource collecting stuff only on the normal server. I’m sure there is a way to
Balance that or compromise.
That gets back to it being a whole lot of work for what is unfortunately for role players a very niche community. An exact instance to my thinking is much easier to create than would be an instance with different rules.
I also don't see the need for an entire zone. Seems the trolls mostly target confined areas where role players gather. An instance for those confined areas might be a way to go.
We may have a different mindset of what role playing is. To me Role playing is if I’m a Khajiit mage this one plays the role and acts as if he is Khajiit.
Than there is cosplay where someone pretends to be Wonder Woman or something… if that’s what you mean by roleplay that’s not what I mean.
But this is a role playing game so focus on questing and taking your role as a character serious (not tank or healer damage realer). This game since arena but really Daggerfall has always been about immersing yourself into your character.
Not sure if that’s what you mean ?
What I mean is role playing in ESO is niche. It isn't a large community. Seems your style would be better suited in a well populated world so there is more to react with. The problem for role players seems to be when they gather somewhere trolls show up and won't leave them be. I think the problem could be corrected without need of an entire zone instance dedicated to role playing.
There are many players that do give their characters back stories and use those stories as they make their way through zones and quest lines. Yes that is a type of role play but it isn't the type that is impacted by trolls any more than any other player is impacted by trolls.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."2 -
Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"I'm not sure how the game currently sorts players into copies of a zone but maybe ZOS could add an option for players to be sorted into an RP copy with only other players who have picked that option."
You did question how to keep those not role playing out. That would be really tough to handle. Aside from the trolls you would also have players that would take advantage of a near empty overland to gather resources with no competition.
Does that need to be prevented? If they're not being disruptive to other players does it matter that they're gathering materials?
Also it's likely to be a self-correcting problem because if more than a few people on each server do it they won't be in an overland with no competition, so it'll be no better than any other instance. I think it's unlikely it would get to the point where so many people are flagging themselves for RP to gather materials that it causes problems for actual role-players.
For that matter what if they were role-playing at the same time? My crafter is usually in character (which is easy because he's nearly as enthusiastic about farming materials as I am) and when there's endeavours for killing things with class or weapon skills, or poisoning them or whatever I'll often do at least part of it by mudcrab farming (because I also need mudcrab chitin). I'll put my khajiit in the fisherman's costume, pick skills without flashy effects that work with her daggers and make my way along the coast or a river bank catching mudcrabs. It's sort of her hobby, or second job.
It's usually a solo RP because I don't often meet other people who stick around long enough to chat, but if I do I'll absolutely be in character at those times. It's one way of making an otherwise tedious activity a bit more entertaining for me.Edited by Danikat on April 26, 2023 8:56AMPC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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Snamyap✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭From what I understand there are usually multiple versions/shards/instances of the more popular zones. Best you could hope for is dedicated roleplaying shards, but there would be no way to keep trolls out of there. And in all my years of playing I have never seen a ZOS guide in-game, despite one of the lines on the loading screens, so I wouldn't hope for a policing force at all.0 -
Snamyap✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »isadoraisacat wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
Elder scrolls is a ROLEPLAYING game first.
Elder scrolls is about the lore first. It’s prob the second most expansive fantasy world after middle earth.
Just because you and some elite parse gods make this about combat does not mean that is the center focus.
In fact the combat is one of the reasons true elder scrolls fans won’t play this game and or dip shortly after trying.
So nahhhhhisadoraisacat wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
That’s my point it’s a rpg series first.
Rpg stands for ROLE PLAYING GAME.
RPGs have combat in them but it’s not the only part of the game.
I feel like these people who think this would be better playing call of duty or fort nite or whatever.Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
Except ESO IS NOT an RPG first. It's an MMO first. We know this by reading the box the original game was packaged in.
ESO is an Elder Scrolls THEMED MMO.
Someone will now dig up that quote from one of the devs claiming the exact opposite.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6559089#Comment_6559089Edited by Snamyap on April 26, 2023 9:06AM8 -
colossalvoids✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭isadoraisacat wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
Elder scrolls is a ROLEPLAYING game first.
Elder scrolls is about the lore first. It’s prob the second most expansive fantasy world after middle earth.
Just because you and some elite parse gods make this about combat does not mean that is the center focus.
In fact the combat is one of the reasons true elder scrolls fans won’t play this game and or dip shortly after trying.
So nahhhhh
Not true enough I guess, as after trying eso out "because wanted to read some lorebooks" combat was the only thing that actually driven me to play more apart from the lore, especially after uninspired single player games combat it was a breath of a fresh air. And now combat is the only thing keeping me there lmao.
Btw lore nerds are hard minority also, most people were there to explode whole screen after a short flight to the other side of the map in MW and kill flying lizards in Skyrim. We're all minorities here.0 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »isadoraisacat wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
Elder scrolls is a ROLEPLAYING game first.
Elder scrolls is about the lore first. It’s prob the second most expansive fantasy world after middle earth.
Just because you and some elite parse gods make this about combat does not mean that is the center focus.
In fact the combat is one of the reasons true elder scrolls fans won’t play this game and or dip shortly after trying.
So nahhhhhisadoraisacat wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
That’s my point it’s a rpg series first.
Rpg stands for ROLE PLAYING GAME.
RPGs have combat in them but it’s not the only part of the game.
I feel like these people who think this would be better playing call of duty or fort nite or whatever.Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
Except ESO IS NOT an RPG first. It's an MMO first. We know this by reading the box the original game was packaged in.
ESO is an Elder Scrolls THEMED MMO.
The back of the Tamriel Unlimited box describes ESO as "a multiplayer RPG".10 -
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✭✭Is it time to start a RP server?
Still not.
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peacenote✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I don't RP but I like the RP'ers and I like running into gatherings. Makes me feel like the game world is alive. I definitely would never troll anyone. It would be a shame to me if RP got separated out and that segment of players bringing life and fun to the main servers no longer did so.
Regardless, for the reasons others have stated, I also don't think it's something likely to happen.1 -
Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Is it time to start a RP server?
Still not.
and I hope it will never happen
And why not?
I think a RP instance/shard would be a good thing to have, as houses are somewhat limiting.3 -
isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »isadoraisacat wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
Elder scrolls is a ROLEPLAYING game first.
Elder scrolls is about the lore first. It’s prob the second most expansive fantasy world after middle earth.
Just because you and some elite parse gods make this about combat does not mean that is the center focus.
In fact the combat is one of the reasons true elder scrolls fans won’t play this game and or dip shortly after trying.
So nahhhhhisadoraisacat wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
That’s my point it’s a rpg series first.
Rpg stands for ROLE PLAYING GAME.
RPGs have combat in them but it’s not the only part of the game.
I feel like these people who think this would be better playing call of duty or fort nite or whatever.Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
Except ESO IS NOT an RPG first. It's an MMO first. We know this by reading the box the original game was packaged in.
ESO is an Elder Scrolls THEMED MMO.
[Snip] Just because it’s an mmo does not negate that that it’s still a role playing game and a role playing series. Every mechanic that these games are based on are all rpg mechanics. Taking it back to meridian 59.
MMOs and mmo RPGs are different animals and this is an mmorpg.
[Edited for bait]Edited by ZOS_Volpe on April 26, 2023 4:04PM2 -
isadoraisacat✭✭✭✭✭SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »isadoraisacat wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
Elder scrolls is a ROLEPLAYING game first.
Elder scrolls is about the lore first. It’s prob the second most expansive fantasy world after middle earth.
Just because you and some elite parse gods make this about combat does not mean that is the center focus.
In fact the combat is one of the reasons true elder scrolls fans won’t play this game and or dip shortly after trying.
So nahhhhhisadoraisacat wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
That’s my point it’s a rpg series first.
Rpg stands for ROLE PLAYING GAME.
RPGs have combat in them but it’s not the only part of the game.
I feel like these people who think this would be better playing call of duty or fort nite or whatever.Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
Except ESO IS NOT an RPG first. It's an MMO first. We know this by reading the box the original game was packaged in.
ESO is an Elder Scrolls THEMED MMO.
The back of the Tamriel Unlimited box describes ESO as "a multiplayer RPG".
It also says “play alone or with friends the choice is yours to make”
That does not sound like your typical mmo.
https://www.thegamer.com/eso-not-considered-an-mmorpg/
[Snip]
[Edited for bait]Edited by ZOS_Volpe on April 26, 2023 4:04PM2 -
ProudMary✭✭✭✭✭
✭What is keeping RP'rs from enjoying the current servers? Why would anyone need special servers for RP'ing?
In addition, it seems to me that far too many people don't accept that ESO was not designed to be exactly like all the other Elder Scrolls game. ESO was designed to have PvP and competitive PvE combat. It was never supposed to be exactly like all the other Elder Scrolls games.
The vast majority of the game are PvE zones where people can RP until their hearts content as is now. Why would the RP crowd need special servers?0 -
Saint-Ange✭✭✭With ESO's server architecture maps are simulated by individual server processes, and overflow instances are created as needed based on the map population cap and some heuristics for the performance of the map, so why could not we get instances à la carte? RP ones, PvP ones, RPPvP ones ..
.. optional readingLet me tell you a story
I was part of one of the two oldest multigames PvP guilds of France: Alliance Naerth, the other one being Les Veilleurs. both guilds were RPPvP guilds, feared ones mind you and nothing to laugh at. you don't laugh.
Alliance Naerth was created in 2001 when we met on Shadowbane.
Quickly some of us became semi professional, professional and we had a pool of sponsors.
One year we were suggested by our main sponsor to compete in PvE content because that's where the biggest market was and told us game creators wanted to focus on PvE and leave behind RP and PvP .. you know why? because RPers and PvPers create their own content while companies want to sale content. give them a few maps and they're happy like kids in a sandbox.
never told that guy how much he was right because we stuck to what we liked, lost our sponsors and best elements and it was our long agony in games like Age of Conan. then I joined the guild Millenium and ended doing mostly PvEHL
and getting older: Millenium Old School .. no I'm not writing this from the cemetary, not done yet with those youngsters.
I've seen too many times PvPers opposing RPers and vice versa while they'd been treated the same, left in the dust on the side of the road like some old stinky dogs. you guys must unite and do some RPPvP!
to motivate you here are some wise words from Conan:
to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women...!
you guys don't want to hear the lamentations of their women?
you women don't want to lament?
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✭✭TybaltKaine wrote: »I like the idea of specific RP instances within the existing servers. That way one could form a group and go to those places to avoid the hassle of the casual player or the troll.
I’d support separate RP instances (not that I ever think they’ll happen) so zone chat isn’t non-functional due to RPers taking it over with their monologues.
RPers aren’t white as the driven snow either. I’ve had some rather cringe and explicit whispers before from ERPers when on a female toon while standing at hubs monitoring zone chat looking for groups. My point is there are bad actors on both sides and RPers aren’t always the oppressed.1 -
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✭ERP is a totally different bag of worms. I suppose I should have specified somewhere that I wasn't referring to that specific animal, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander, so give them a separate instance too (explicitly noted as ERP zone).- Tybalt Kaine Khajiit Nightblade Aldmeri Dominion
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✭✭✭✭✭SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »isadoraisacat wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
Elder scrolls is a ROLEPLAYING game first.
Elder scrolls is about the lore first. It’s prob the second most expansive fantasy world after middle earth.
Just because you and some elite parse gods make this about combat does not mean that is the center focus.
In fact the combat is one of the reasons true elder scrolls fans won’t play this game and or dip shortly after trying.
So nahhhhhisadoraisacat wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
That’s my point it’s a rpg series first.
Rpg stands for ROLE PLAYING GAME.
RPGs have combat in them but it’s not the only part of the game.
I feel like these people who think this would be better playing call of duty or fort nite or whatever.Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
Except ESO IS NOT an RPG first. It's an MMO first. We know this by reading the box the original game was packaged in.
ESO is an Elder Scrolls THEMED MMO.
I'm wondering WHY you keep going back to the original description when Rich Lambert himself stated in an online interview that they CHANGED the game from MMO group-based to RPG-MMO based with One Tamriel because they found the majority of players wanted 'Skyrim with friends' and not a traditional MMO. So continuing to go back to this image and description is wrong because the game has moved away from it's original MMO focus to an RPG focus.
Update: Found some articles, including a quote from Matt Firor, "It needed to be an Elder Scrolls game first and foremost. That’s why Matt Firor [General Manager] doesn’t refer to ESO as an MMO. It’s an online RPG, because that helps kind of evoke the thought process we went through, which is its true core – it is an Elder Scrolls game.” And another interesting interview with Rich.
In these interviews they state they found that the game wasn't popular with either MMO players or Elder Scrolls players, so they opted to focus on Elder Scrolls players and move in that direction with One Tamriel.Edited by ADarklore on April 26, 2023 7:10PMCP: 1965 ** ESO+ Gold Road ** ~~ Stamina Arcanist ~~ Magicka Warden ~~ Magicka Templar ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****6 -
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✭✭I don't RP with others (I've tried, but I find it takes too long and I have ADHD, so I just solo RP in my head as I do my own activities), but I like running into RPers because they make the game feel more alive and real. I enjoy their presence, and their presence has greatly diminished because of trolls. It's unfortunate that bad actors get thrills from ruining others' social activities.HEARTHLIGHT - A guild for housing enthusiasts! Contact @Kesstryl in-game to join.4 -
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✭✭SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »isadoraisacat wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
Elder scrolls is a ROLEPLAYING game first.
Elder scrolls is about the lore first. It’s prob the second most expansive fantasy world after middle earth.
Just because you and some elite parse gods make this about combat does not mean that is the center focus.
In fact the combat is one of the reasons true elder scrolls fans won’t play this game and or dip shortly after trying.
So nahhhhhisadoraisacat wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
That’s my point it’s a rpg series first.
Rpg stands for ROLE PLAYING GAME.
RPGs have combat in them but it’s not the only part of the game.
I feel like these people who think this would be better playing call of duty or fort nite or whatever.Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
Except ESO IS NOT an RPG first. It's an MMO first. We know this by reading the box the original game was packaged in.
ESO is an Elder Scrolls THEMED MMO.
I did say ESO is about playing how you want and the picture you posted only reinforced that. I also said that includes both combat and RP. ESO's website describes the game as an "online RPG set in the Elder Scrolls universe", which to me means both aspects are fundamental. If you want it to be more about RP, you can. If you want it to be more about combat with others, you can. It's an online RPG set in a universe of RPGs, but you do what you want.Imperial DK and Necro tank. PC/NA
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✭✭✭✭✭"For that matter what if they were role-playing at the same time? My crafter is usually in character (which is easy because he's nearly as enthusiastic about farming materials as I am) and when there's endeavours for killing things with class or weapon skills, or poisoning them or whatever I'll often do at least part of it by mudcrab farming (because I also need mudcrab chitin). I'll put my khajiit in the fisherman's costume, pick skills without flashy effects that work with her daggers and make my way along the coast or a river bank catching mudcrabs. It's sort of her hobby, or second job."
and this is an activity that you can do in the instances we have now. The idea of separate instances came to be in response to role playing in certain areas like a tavern where troll show up and try to interrupt what is going on. A separate instance isn't needed to deal with that particular problem and trolls being trolls a separate instance isn't likely going to stop them.
Back to the farming aspect. Farming in an almost empty instance does provide some advantage. Those materials are after all worth gold. Granted it isn't a huge advantage but still an advantage.
Going at it from a different angle I could also see trains of farm bots making use of the zones as there would be no players to interrupt their circle.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭isadoraisacat wrote: »SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »isadoraisacat wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
Elder scrolls is a ROLEPLAYING game first.
Elder scrolls is about the lore first. It’s prob the second most expansive fantasy world after middle earth.
Just because you and some elite parse gods make this about combat does not mean that is the center focus.
In fact the combat is one of the reasons true elder scrolls fans won’t play this game and or dip shortly after trying.
So nahhhhhisadoraisacat wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
That’s my point it’s a rpg series first.
Rpg stands for ROLE PLAYING GAME.
RPGs have combat in them but it’s not the only part of the game.
I feel like these people who think this would be better playing call of duty or fort nite or whatever.Carcamongus wrote: »UnabashedlyHonest wrote: »TybaltKaine wrote: »I've been wondering for quite a while if there should be an option for an RP server. We've all seen the horror stories about trolls and griefing when folks try to RP, so maybe a dedicated space for it would help to reduce those occurrences. It's not like you'd be setting a precedent, as they exist in other games already.
Thoughts?
No. ESO is about combat, not RP.
No, ESO is about playing how you want, which includes combat but also RP. Is your cup of tea just beating things? Sure thing, go ahead, but roleplayers are also playing the game correctly and deserve the same attention from ZOS. Besides, it's kind of silly to say an RPG isn't about RP. What's next, Call of Duty is about admiring the scenery and bird-watching, but not combat?
Except ESO IS NOT an RPG first. It's an MMO first. We know this by reading the box the original game was packaged in.
ESO is an Elder Scrolls THEMED MMO.
[Snip] Just because it’s an mmo does not negate that that it’s still a role playing game and a role playing series. Every mechanic that these games are based on are all rpg mechanics. Taking it back to meridian 59.
MMOs and mmo RPGs are different animals and this is an mmorpg.
[Edited for bait]
We can take this a step further. With the exception of card games, all TES games are role-playing games. Skyrimmis an RPG.
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