does companion negative rapport bother you?

WuffyCerulei

Nah, cept for when I forget to put Ember away when i go to fish. I DO like to have Bastian out whenever I make cheese tho. As a cheese lover, his disdain cracks me up.

Serpari

Yes, but I have OCD. It's usually the small -5 rapport hits, though, so I offset it by killing a bunch of cultists in Ashalmawia with Bastian.

FantasticFreddie

"Ugh that was sloppy! I hate getting caught!"

MY HEART
BROKEN

I'LL DO BETTER NEXT TIME I PROMISE

LalMirchi

Actually yes. Companion negative rapport does bother me.

When I'm in the ebb and flow and having a fine old time slashing, poisoning, stunning, flame lashing and lots more a negative reaction from ones companion is a slight dash of cold water. The worst is when I'm innocently harvesting fishing lures.

But, no worries, this can be turned into a fun mini game so I now set Mirri to max talkative and bring her out when I want to tease her. With respect she is an excellent dual-wielder and a valuable healer so this is camaraderie and I wish my companions could prank me.

I will try this on the other companions but torch-bugs and butterflies are everywhere and dear Mirri does seem to scream the loudest.

spartaxoxo

It enhances the experience for me. I like that they each have their own likes and dislikes. It's what makes them feel like characters rather than pets like the warden bear or the Daedric summons.

spartaxoxo

AzuraFan wrote: »

(and who wants a "friend" whose rapport goes down after ONE infraction. That's not a friend I'd want lol.)

It doesn't meaningfully change after one infraction unless you do something they despise. For example, murder someone in front of Bastian. The companions have a rapport range before their disposition towards you changes and the dislikes don't significantly move the bar that direction.

Fenris_Arainai

Not in the least. The loss of points is tiny, and their comments are interesting or funny. I can roleplay some sort of banter/answer to them.

Lauranae

Not really, i use most often Ember, and when i am a bad thief or killer, i go steal armor and weapons that i will purple and i go fence them (gain 25+ for the first given) and then (5+ for each). You can repeat that each day, with no limit on the purpled fence items

It helps also to level her rapport from time to time

Stefirex

Lauranae wrote: »

Not really, i use most often Ember, and when i am a bad thief or killer, i go steal armor and weapons that i will purple and i go fence them (gain 25+ for the first given) and then (5+ for each). You can repeat that each day, with no limit on the purpled fence items

It helps also to level her rapport from time to time

I didn't know that about Ember thanks..

Carcamongus

It's interesting, but for some reason, my DK had the Companion Info addon active, while the necro didn't. Loss of rapport on the former bugs me a lot, whereas on the latter my reaction is far calmer. That addon is very useful and I recommend it, but here's the thing: my DK has full rapport with Mirri and it's a nice and pretty even number, 5500. I also have OCD and, for some reason, it feels wrong to have rapport at 5499. Pretty much the only way I lose rapport with her is with those blasted torchbugs, hence my mentioning only losing a single point (sometimes I call Bastian and go full revenge mode on the bugging bugs). What also bothers me a lot is how torchbug placement (butterflies seem way less trolly) is so awful, it's like those fetchers want me to poke them just so Mirri will have me sleep on the couch.

disintegr8

I don't care about companion rapport. Once I get my last companions rapport maxed out for the achievements, it will be something I completely ignore.

spartaxoxo

Carcamongus wrote: »

It's interesting, but for some reason, my DK had the Companion Info addon active, while the necro didn't. Loss of rapport on the former bugs me a lot, whereas on the latter my reaction is far calmer. That addon is very useful and I recommend it, but here's the thing: my DK has full rapport with Mirri and it's a nice and pretty even number, 5500. I also have OCD and, for some reason, it feels wrong to have rapport at 5499. Pretty much the only way I lose rapport with her is with those blasted torchbugs, hence my mentioning only losing a single point (sometimes I call Bastian and go full revenge mode on the bugging bugs). What also bothers me a lot is how torchbug placement (butterflies seem way less trolly) is so awful, it's like those fetchers want me to poke them just so Mirri will have me sleep on the couch.

It's interesting you mentioned that because I was just thinking the other day that I wondered if people would feel less like minor rapport losses were big deal if the game better communicated how little they mattered. Like if you saw minus one point rather than that alarming red icon, would it make the player feel differently? Sounds like in your case, that may work.

Rogue_WolfESO

Its the inconsistency in the companions programming that bugs me.
Ember "lots of opportunities for pickpocketing here. Just saying!" 1 min later after getting caught stealing raport lost 😆 and she's mad we were stealing 😤 😒
I mean for a street kid she has some problems with her morales 🤷

Fata1moose

I just don’t like the torch bug/butterfly one because I accidentally click on them all of the time and you lose rapport before even looting the bug.

adriant1978

On an occasional basis it's fun and adds immersion, like when I quest forced my Templar into an outlaw's refuge to speak to a contact and Isobel chided him for entering a den of dishonorable rogues.

Now if I was habitually frequenting outlaw's refuges then I would question whether Isobel was the best choice of companion for that character, and I certainly wouldn't try to game the system by immediately doing something else to wipe out the disapproval.

Necrotech_Master

Rogue_WolfESO wrote: »

Its the inconsistency in the companions programming that bugs me.
Ember "lots of opportunities for pickpocketing here. Just saying!" 1 min later after getting caught stealing raport lost 😆 and she's mad we were stealing 😤 😒
I mean for a street kid she has some problems with her morales 🤷

shes mad that you got caught stealing, not the act of stealing itself lol

Carcamongus

Rogue_WolfESO wrote: »

Its the inconsistency in the companions programming that bugs me.
Ember "lots of opportunities for pickpocketing here. Just saying!" 1 min later after getting caught stealing raport lost 😆 and she's mad we were stealing 😤 😒
I mean for a street kid she has some problems with her morales 🤷

The problem with Ember is she doesn't tolerate failure. I suppose her time as a street kid made her a perfectionist. In my case, it's hard to be a perfectionist thief in full heavy armor with a ping of 200.

Dojohoda

Mirri: "You horrible awful stinking rotten beast. Don't kill a bug in my presence. "

Me: eats the bug and kills another one, throws it at Mirri.

No, no, negative rapport doesn't bother me a bit!

Jaimeh

On my main I try not to get any negative rapport with the companions, and get a tad bummed out if I accidentally kill a bug or steal something when Mirri and Bastian are out. The only comments from companion that bother me is when for eg., I'm fighting a dungeon boss or I'm in a challenging fight, and I use an ultimate, and Bastian goes ''Do you think that might have been excessive?'' NO BASTIAN, the floor is literally lava and the boss is the size of a mountain, I don't think that's excessive!

Necrotech_Master

Jaimeh wrote: »

On my main I try not to get any negative rapport with the companions, and get a tad bummed out if I accidentally kill a bug or steal something when Mirri and Bastian are out. The only comments from companion that bother me is when for eg., I'm fighting a dungeon boss or I'm in a challenging fight, and I use an ultimate, and Bastian goes ''Do you think that might have been excessive?'' NO BASTIAN, the floor is literally lava and the boss is the size of a mountain, I don't think that's excessive!

hes probably remember that time he saw someone drop a meteor on a poor defenseless 1hp critter (like a monkey) lol

Browiseth

people are so quick to forget that eso is derived from a series of role playing games (rpgs)

zaria

I got a bit annoyed by Mirri complaining about picking bugs then I was collecting resources or looted enemies.
The game does not know if I wanted to pick an bug or the node behind.
For the others its part of their character.

Getting caught by guards on purpose so you can escape will not make Ember happy 😸
First you let some see you steal something then approach an guard so you can escape.

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Jaimeh wrote: »

On my main I try not to get any negative rapport with the companions, and get a tad bummed out if I accidentally kill a bug or steal something when Mirri and Bastian are out. The only comments from companion that bother me is when for eg., I'm fighting a dungeon boss or I'm in a challenging fight, and I use an ultimate, and Bastian goes ''Do you think that might have been excessive?'' NO BASTIAN, the floor is literally lava and the boss is the size of a mountain, I don't think that's excessive!

hes probably remember that time he saw someone drop a meteor on a poor defenseless 1hp critter (like a monkey) lol

How about dropping them randomly People who has played Hogwarts Legacy got into the habit of spamming R

RaddlemanNumber7

What bothers me is that it is set in stone. There is no argument, no possibility of persuasion or defence. The player must learn to accept the companion's pet peeves, but the player cannot educate the companion out them.

Why can I not explain the cosmic beauty of the Blade of Woe to my companions? It is not the cruellest of deaths but the most merciful release, the release which fulfils the entire purpose of the Arena.

Treselegant

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

What bothers me is that it is set in stone. There is no argument, no possibility of persuasion or defence. The player must learn to accept the companion's pet peeves, but the player cannot educate the companion out them.

Why can I not explain the cosmic beauty of the Blade of Woe to my companions? It is not the cruellest of deaths but the most merciful release, the release which fulfils the entire purpose of the Arena.

The companions are meant to act as friends or at least cordial battle buddies to most players. They mirror real life friendships where friends can have all sorts of different likes and dislikes and still be friends. It's so they come across more like people and whole characters which is what most players who use companions in rpgs want.

They aren't dummies or dolls for the player to abuse for their own amusement- so it makes sense that you can't mentally 'educate' them or murder them. There are few rpg games that allow that thankfully. The one that did experiment with forcing companions to agree with you just made a vast amount of players very uncomfortable.

hrothbern

I can't be bothered
Companions should be grown up enough to accept being displeased now and then, and not having an attitude on it.
and otherwise they should embrace the learning curve to move forward

As Lincoln used to say:
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.

or more recent from The Stones:
"You can't always get what you want"

deal with it

Grizzbeorn

I give myself the ol' Gibbs Slap if I happen to incur any (almost always when I loot a Thieves Trove and forget that I have Izzy active), but it's easy enough to recoup. Usually a gear repair puts me back where I was,

ADarklore

Honestly, it DOES bother me. As others mentioned, I just feel bad when they point out that I'm doing something 'bad' in their view. Like when Bastian says, "I thought you gave up stealing". OUCH. Or when he berates me when I accidentally kill a spider.

People that say, "It doesn't bother me, I just dismiss them before doing..." Well that's certainly an indicator that negative rapport DOES bother you or at least their reaction, if you are taking the time to dismiss them before doing something you know will bother them.

It's really not the rapport loss that bothers me per se, it's their verbal responses that bother me.

swook33b16_ESO

Hell yes it bother's me. Like I accidentally clicked on a bug that gives bug wings and I get negative rapport from Mirri.
I accidentally killed a small creature that was too close when i was fighting a npc, I get negative rapport from Bastian. Or Isobel I get negative rapport just entering the outlaws den.

Wish the negative rapport was gone, simply annoying or if we can be able to buy an item/Items from a vendor that can improve the positive rapport. Just like in Swtor.

Toxic_Hemlock

Not in the least. I got 3 out of the 4 upgrades and could not care less for Bastions trash potions. Let them whine if they want, I already got their permanent buff!

Necrotech_Master

ADarklore wrote: »

Honestly, it DOES bother me. As others mentioned, I just feel bad when they point out that I'm doing something 'bad' in their view. Like when Bastian says, "I thought you gave up stealing". OUCH. Or when he berates me when I accidentally kill a spider.

People that say, "It doesn't bother me, I just dismiss them before doing..." Well that's certainly an indicator that negative rapport DOES bother you or at least their reaction, if you are taking the time to dismiss them before doing something you know will bother them.

It's really not the rapport loss that bothers me per se, it's their verbal responses that bother me.

for me the companions talking too much is what bothers me lol

if im running around and want to do a quick fish and have ember out, i dont want to hear her yapping, ill still fish because i dont care about the negligible rapport loss, but the companions talking at all is what bothers me most of the time

because zos refuses to let you turn off companion dialog entirely im very tempted to get that shut yer trap addon to turn off companion dialogs

right now turning off the companion is the easiest way to not hear their nonsense when you know your about to trigger one of the negative rapport sources