U37 Bloodmist

kriegwar13

The animation of the U37 bloodmist is horrendous, After the dash, you will have a blood pool while you are in beneath the ground for x amount of seconds that sucks dry the enemies around you. I understand that you are trying to create another useful tool for vampires, and this can be used for tanking.

How about if after the dash animation, all enemies that hit by bloodmist will have a debuff for x seconds and you steal life from them? and removing the annoying blood pool effect. It just doesn't seem right..

ESO_Nightingale

kriegwar13 wrote: »

The animation of the U37 bloodmist is horrendous, After the dash, you will have a blood pool while you are in beneath the ground for x amount of seconds that sucks dry the enemies around you. I understand that you are trying to create another useful tool for vampires, and this can be used for tanking.

How about if after the dash animation, all enemies that hit by bloodmist will have a debuff for x seconds and you steal life from them? and removing the annoying blood pool effect. It just doesn't seem right..

i actually like the effect

kriegwar13

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

kriegwar13 wrote: »

The animation of the U37 bloodmist is horrendous, After the dash, you will have a blood pool while you are in beneath the ground for x amount of seconds that sucks dry the enemies around you. I understand that you are trying to create another useful tool for vampires, and this can be used for tanking.

How about if after the dash animation, all enemies that hit by bloodmist will have a debuff for x seconds and you steal life from them? and removing the annoying blood pool effect. It just doesn't seem right..

i actually like the effect

Maybe you like cheap stuff then with little amount of effort made? Its just vampire NPCs effects are far more better than playable characters. Not only for the vampires, but everything in general.. IMO, we are paying for the content it is logical to just share opinions and thoughts or else what's the sense of the forums.. We just wanted to see ESO to its right direction to be more competitive in other MMOs.

I'll just put it here and quote what is the feedback of XomRhok:

"Animation of casting Mist form need to be changed, in my opinion. It must be instant witout any scream and movement from the character, because now it looks more like a jump forward with scream, not a elusive movement.
Elusive mist skill seems ok at the moment in terms how it looks and feel.
Blood mist, in the other hand, looks and feel bad, in my opinion. Animation of ground effect is bad, it's just a red puddle, looks very cheap and not atmospheric, with mist on top of that puddle it looks acceptable, but without mist, just under the character model it looks bad. DOT last for long 20 seconds, it take away this cool feeling of constant transforming in and out of Mist form. Better make it similar to bat swarm streak that NPC vampires have with cool animation and instant AoE damage, or if you want to keep DOT damage make it last for 4-10 seconds, just to keep reasons to use this skill more often.
At the begining of the video you can see NPC vampire streak."

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/626525/pts-update-37-feedback-thread-for-combat-classes/p2

better sound and animation effects. than the cheap ugly stuff on your playable character.

https://vimeo.com/417422157?embedded=true&source=video_title&owner=113475112

ESO_Nightingale

kriegwar13 wrote: »

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

kriegwar13 wrote: »

The animation of the U37 bloodmist is horrendous, After the dash, you will have a blood pool while you are in beneath the ground for x amount of seconds that sucks dry the enemies around you. I understand that you are trying to create another useful tool for vampires, and this can be used for tanking.

How about if after the dash animation, all enemies that hit by bloodmist will have a debuff for x seconds and you steal life from them? and removing the annoying blood pool effect. It just doesn't seem right..

i actually like the effect

Maybe you like cheap stuff then with little amount of effort made? Its just vampire NPCs effects are far more better than playable characters. Not only for the vampires, but everything in general.. IMO, we are paying for the content it is logical to just share opinions and thoughts or else what's the sense of the forums.. We just wanted to see ESO to its right direction to be more competitive in other MMOs.

I'll just put it here and quote what is the feedback of XomRhok:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/626525/pts-update-37-feedback-thread-for-combat-classes/p2

better sound and animation effects. than the cheap ugly stuff on your playable character.

https://vimeo.com/417422157?embedded=true&source=video_title&owner=113475112

I don't think you specifically being upset with an animation and sound effect is indicative of the game going in a worse direction. But ok. It's fine that you don't like it.

Animar111

I think the new Blood Mist is great well implemented and am looking forward to using my vampire character once again. They really did a fantastic job with this rework big thanks….

Jammy420

We have been asking for more blood magic effects that arent flashy for a while, we get them, and now people are against those?

Animar111 wrote: »

I think the new Blood Mist is great well implemented and am looking forward to using my vampire character once again. They really did a fantastic job with this rework big thanks….

Same.

ketsparrowhawk

I am very excited for the new Blood Mist. It's going to be super useful on my StamPlar.. it fits her offensive style perfectly, while also giving her some extra mobility + offensive healing. I think they nailed it with this change.

TechMaybeHic

ketsparrowhawk wrote: »

I am very excited for the new Blood Mist. It's going to be super useful on my StamPlar.. it fits her offensive style perfectly, while also giving her some extra mobility + offensive healing. I think they nailed it with this change.

LoL same here. It's a great fit for what I'm doing now.

Odd how vampire over the years has synergized with what you'd think would be the anti-vamp class. But we have the spear model now. Might as well go with it.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

I have a better idea: The Mist effect becomes a swarm of Bats instead.

kriegwar13

Jammy420 wrote: »

We have been asking for more blood magic effects that arent flashy for a while, we get them, and now people are against those?

we don't oppose the rework, It is far more better than the useless mistform in live servers.. But you know what they say, there is a proper way to fix things, not to just do it" I

it works that's fine. they'll love the new rework"

It was supposed to be: "something doesn't feel right, lets fix it"


take a look at this, NPC effects are far more better than playable character effects. If they can do it on an NPC vampire from greymoor, why all player vampire skills looks so lame and like bare minimum work.

<iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/417422157?h=df14dc1570&quot; width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
<p><a href=" Arterial Burst</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user113475112">ESO</a&gt; on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p&gt;

Zastrix

Yep that animation looks way better. The current animation does make sense for the live version of blood mist, but for the PTS version it just looks and feels SUPER cheap.

It would make more sense that blood mist is changed into bat swarm.

Same effect/damage as of right now just make it that you teleport like in that video and then have the pre-greymoor aoe of bats rather than a meh mist, they literally have the assets of the animation to do so. I'm totally okay with it not doing an AOE path attack like streak, have the same damage effect just a different visual effect.

The other mist form actually works well as you can use 'mist' to escape (which fits the evasion theme)

Shagreth

The animation should have been a bloody swarm of bats similar to the video, the current one feels clunky and honestly placeholder. I highly doubt they'll ever change it though, be happy they even tweaked this, I mean, look at the animation for our spammable lol

Zastrix

TBH the spammable seems fine by me. IDK why the double spammable bug is there but the animation is oke

Zastrix

Followiong this I created a poll https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/627720/petition-to-change-the-animation-for-bloodmist for potentially changing the animation to the aforementioned one in the video!

ElementalDud

I agree, I like the rework of how the ability functions, but the actual appearance of the skill just looks bad. I'm not asking for something flashy, just something that doesn't look goofy and flat.

As others have mentioned, the vampire NPCs in the game already have a perfect version for how this skill should look. But maybe Zos wants all the player Vampire skills to look bad? That might explain the blindingly bright green/orange vampire Drain skill.

kriegwar13

Shagreth wrote: »

The animation should have been a bloody swarm of bats similar to the video, the current one feels clunky and honestly placeholder. I highly doubt they'll ever change it though, be happy they even tweaked this, I mean, look at the animation for our spammable lol

I agree.. animation affects the gameplay, and how you play the game.

All chars have spammable, and that is the way how ZoS created ESO.. and, the only problem i see in eviscerate animation is when you have weapon equipped it looks bad that the weapon swings along with the claw mark it looks so bad..

Maybe adjust like casting spells using left hand, that would be better..

Shagreth

kriegwar13 wrote: »

Shagreth wrote: »

The animation should have been a bloody swarm of bats similar to the video, the current one feels clunky and honestly placeholder. I highly doubt they'll ever change it though, be happy they even tweaked this, I mean, look at the animation for our spammable lol

I agree.. animation affects the gameplay, and how you play the game.

All chars have spammable, and that is the way how ZoS created ESO.. and, the only problem i see in eviscerate animation is when you have weapon equipped it looks bad that the weapon swings along with the claw mark it looks so bad..

Maybe adjust like casting spells using left hand, that would be better..

Someone finally gets it, it looks silly and clunky, they really need to do something with the spammable.

Jammy420

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I have a better idea: The Mist effect becomes a swarm of Bats instead.

We already have that with the ulti, no.

kriegwar13 wrote: »

Jammy420 wrote: »

We have been asking for more blood magic effects that arent flashy for a while, we get them, and now people are against those?

we don't oppose the rework, It is far more better than the useless mistform in live servers.. But you know what they say, there is a proper way to fix things, not to just do it" I

it works that's fine. they'll love the new rework"

It was supposed to be: "something doesn't feel right, lets fix it"


take a look at this, NPC effects are far more better than playable character effects. If they can do it on an NPC vampire from greymoor, why all player vampire skills looks so lame and like bare minimum work.

<iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/417422157?h=df14dc1570&quot; width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
<p><a href=" Arterial Burst</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user113475112">ESO</a&gt; on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p&gt;

I mean if you want to be an npc with no ultis, sure. But again, we have bats with the ulti, I really dont want the same thing for everything.

Animar111

Blood mist should be a mist of blood or I’m I missing something…..?

Veinblood1965

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I have a better idea: The Mist effect becomes a swarm of Bats instead.

Can't happen, that would be more aligned with general movie type vampire lore. Next thing you know we won't be able to play as a vampire during daylight in-game lol.

Vevvev

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I have a better idea: The Mist effect becomes a swarm of Bats instead.

Can't happen, that would be more aligned with general movie type vampire lore. Next thing you know we won't be able to play as a vampire during daylight in-game lol.

Ah yes, reminds me of Oblivion and Morrowind of the sunlight damage during the day. My Oblivion vampire became a very good healer due to that, but also if I didn't wanna deal with it they made sure to drink blood as being stage 1 in Oblivion turned off the sunlight damage.

Zastrix

Also at least on the PTS mist should NOT say that it's instant. It takes one second for the animation to be completed so it should have that it's a 1s ability, not instant.

Zastrix

And on another note: it should probably a 1/s heal rather than 2/s heal.

Animar111

Does it activate as soon as you press it if so that’s pretty instant.

Zastrix

It's more of a channeled ability. You could then argue that jabs are instant because they start doing damage the moment you press it. It takes one second for it to complete, ergo it is a 1s channeled ability

Abstraqt

Agreed, the ground effect does not look good at all. It's blurry & unpolished. If you have it active and mount it just hovers in the air around you! Either some kind of debuff, bats or something less obnoxious would look so much better. Please consider this Zos as it just makes the ability so irritating to use.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I have a better idea: The Mist effect becomes a swarm of Bats instead.

Can't happen, that would be more aligned with general movie type vampire lore. Next thing you know we won't be able to play as a vampire during daylight in-game lol.

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I have a better idea: The Mist effect becomes a swarm of Bats instead.

Can't happen, that would be more aligned with general movie type vampire lore. Next thing you know we won't be able to play as a vampire during daylight in-game lol.

Someone wasn't a Vampire Lord in Skyrim, they had an ability that was exactly that also NPC Vampires get surrounded in Bats.