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Would you like to change forum reactions for comments and post to agree/disagree/neutral?

Gray_howling_parrot
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Would you like to change forum reactions for comments and post to agree/disagree/neutral? 127 votes

Yes
43%
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No
49%
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Other suggestion
7%
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  • Dr_Con
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    Yes
    Neutral is unneeded, but a disagree button would be nice.
  • Tandor
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    No
    Unnecessary in my view, like so many aspects of ESO that people constantly want to change, the forum is fine as it is.
  • Carcamongus
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    No
    I would rather keep things as they are and let people who disagree speak up instead of just hitting a reaction button. After all, explaining why you disagree with something is better for the discussion than just clicking something. The agree reaction, though, is a bit different, as you can just agree with someone for the same stated reasons, so a post might not be required, and if you agree for different reasons you can just post your views.
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  • boi_anachronism_
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    Yes
    I would rather keep things as they are and let people who disagree speak up instead of just hitting a reaction button. After all, explaining why you disagree with something is better for the discussion than just clicking something. The agree reaction, though, is a bit different, as you can just agree with someone for the same stated reasons, so a post might not be required, and if you agree for different reasons you can just post your views.

    Idk I think a simple disagree might mitigate some of the cranky responses with no real value of which there are an overabundance of on the forum but that's just my opinion.
  • spartaxoxo
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    No
    A disagree button wouldn't be constructive to conversation. If your opinion hasn't been expressed in a thread, then it's good for you to share it. If your opinion has been expressed, you can just hit agree.
  • Necrotech_Master
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    Other suggestion
    i would like to see a funny/lol option, because when i read a post thats funny, it doesnt fit under agree/insightful/awesome to me so i just dont give a reaction lol
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  • Gray_howling_parrot
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    Yes
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    A disagree button wouldn't be constructive to conversation. If your opinion hasn't been expressed in a thread, then it's good for you to share it. If your opinion has been expressed, you can just hit agree.

    Fair enough! BUT, there are plenty of people (too many in my opinion) that comment on posts and just say "I don't agree/I disagree with all of this/etc." I'd personally like the option for those people to have a button to press rather than wasting a comment slot saying "I disagree" and adding nothin else, ya know?
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  • chessalavakia_ESO
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    No
    I've generally found the option to just disagree leads to people not bothering to explain why and it can also lead to people brigading content.

    People don't learn much of anything if people don't say why you don't like something.
  • Tandor
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    No
    i would like to see a funny/lol option, because when i read a post thats funny, it doesnt fit under agree/insightful/awesome to me so i just dont give a reaction lol

    That would be too open to abuse, as it was before.
  • Malthorne
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    Other suggestion
    Bring back the LOL button.
  • propertyOfUndefined
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    No
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    A disagree button wouldn't be constructive to conversation. If your opinion hasn't been expressed in a thread, then it's good for you to share it. If your opinion has been expressed, you can just hit agree.

    I hit agree :)
  • Necrotech_Master
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    Tandor wrote: »
    i would like to see a funny/lol option, because when i read a post thats funny, it doesnt fit under agree/insightful/awesome to me so i just dont give a reaction lol

    That would be too open to abuse, as it was before.

    thats what i heard, but realistically any reaction could be "abused", though it might not make a lot of sense

    someone could just make a message of "lol" and then everyone on the forum could vote it insightful even though it means nothing

    i personally dont even see how a "funny" or "lol" reaction could even be abused, as i see it as a "positive" reaction unlike say "disagree" or "downvote" type reactions
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  • Supreme_Atromancer
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    I would rather keep things as they are and let people who disagree speak up instead of just hitting a reaction button. After all, explaining why you disagree with something is better for the discussion than just clicking something. The agree reaction, though, is a bit different, as you can just agree with someone for the same stated reasons, so a post might not be required, and if you agree for different reasons you can just post your views.

    Idk I think a simple disagree might mitigate some of the cranky responses with no real value of which there are an overabundance of on the forum but that's just my opinion.

    I'm definitely leery of the idea that bad behaviour should justify some course of action. We're amongst the most passionate people in the community. Self regulation is the answer, not giving people some dubious channel through which they can express crankiness.

    Besides that, if someone writes why they disagree with something I say, I can look for the core logic in what they are saying, evaluate it, engage it, or through that, see things in a different way, from a different perspective. There are many times already I've had people express disagreements thoughtfully here which has caused me to shift my view on things.

    If 20 people just " disagree ", with no response, no justification, it just feels bad. I didn't learn anything, just a vague sense of punishment for speaking my mind.

    Its a forum for discussion. I think that if you want to engage, you should be required to do so in a constructive way. A pile of anonymous, faceless, nebulous "disagree" doesn't do that.

  • bmnoble
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    No
    If you disagree state why, with a quote to the post.

    Posts that disagree with an opening post are just as important as those that agree with it or propose another option, I see no reason to reduce everything to buttons.

    If we go that route may as well just have an upvote and downvote for the opening post, with far less people stating why they voted one way or the other just letting the buttons do the talking for them.
  • Danikat
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    No
    I've been on forums with a disagree function and never found it useful. Unless your post is a single sentance clearly stating a fact or opinion (which most are not) a generic disagee reaction is too vague. It doesn't tell you what part/s they disagree with or why and doesn't help further the discussion.

    About the only benefit is giving people who have nothing to contribute a way to feel like they've had their say without wasting their time and everyone else's with a meaningless post.

    Agree has a similar problem, but at least then it can be interpreted as they completly agree with absolutely everything you said and if they were to post it would be an entire duplicate of what you said. (Most people probably don't mean it that way, but again if they want to be more specific they need to say so.)
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  • Amottica
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    Other suggestion
    We already have a neutral. It is no response on the three items.

    Also, Zenimax has made it clear they do not want a negative reaction item available which is their stated reason for removing LOL.
  • Syldras
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    No
    i personally dont even see how a "funny" or "lol" reaction could even be abused, as i see it as a "positive" reaction unlike say "disagree" or "downvote" type reactions

    It can be seen as mocking someone. Imagine someone makes a serious suggestion or a newbie asking a honest question, and all they get back is "lol".
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  • peacenote
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    No
    i would like to see a funny/lol option, because when i read a post thats funny, it doesnt fit under agree/insightful/awesome to me so i just dont give a reaction lol

    Oops I voted too fast; I also would like to see an LOL option. I also would be fine with things staying the way they are.

    What I do now is use Insightful for more serious posts and Awesome for things that are VERY funny, clever, or gorgeous (like housing or other screenshots). I figure people can use context to tell if reactions to the post are because it was awesomely funny vs. the rarer times awesome applies to an incredibly impressive and well-thought out case with clear detail and explanation. I tend to drop Insightfuls for unique perspectives and Awesomes for well-researched and explained.

    So really all that's really missing for me is a reaction for when something is... kinda funny. Maybe not even worth it. OK I've talked myself out of it. ;)
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  • TaSheen
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    No
    Syldras wrote: »
    i personally dont even see how a "funny" or "lol" reaction could even be abused, as i see it as a "positive" reaction unlike say "disagree" or "downvote" type reactions

    It can be seen as mocking someone. Imagine someone makes a serious suggestion or a newbie asking a honest question, and all they get back is "lol".

    This. I've been not only a poster but a mod on some forums in the past: WordPress, Adobe, other game forums. Several of them had at that time (years back now) a LOL icon. In general on such forums, it would be used appropriately, but on two or three, it became a version of "oh, how stupid, why would you even post that!" sort of thing.

    It can be a problem. The best thing here I think is to just use the smiley icons provided.
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  • VaranisArano
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    No
    If you want to disagree, it's more constructive to explain why.

    If you can't be bothered to do that, then find the comment that best describes why you disagree, and hit Agree on that one.

    If you can't be bothered to do that, then I'm really not sure how a fly-by disagree is supposed to add anything to the discussion.
  • Heartrage
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    Yes
    While I understand that nobody likes to have their comment disagreed. I think it would be better to gauge ideas popularity without making polls or having to compare with opposite comments agree numbers.
  • VaranisArano
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    No
    Heartrage wrote: »
    While I understand that nobody likes to have their comment disagreed. I think it would be better to gauge ideas popularity without making polls or having to compare with opposite comments agree numbers.

    But isn't that why we have polls?
  • DinoZavr
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    No
    Adding "downvote" button will grant forum trolls a purpose to spend theirs time on Forums massively downvoting others no matter why - just to enjoy the reaction.
    Is that really necessary?

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  • DreamyLu
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    I would like it even more simple with just agree/disagree (or yes/no or like/dislike). Everything else aside of that requires a few words explanation that can't be covered by "neutral" that is by far too restrictive.

    "Neutral" means more or less "don't mind" or "don't care". But there are a lot more ways of thinking than just that! For example "yes but...", "no but..." and so on...
    To be correct, it would need to be called something like "Other". But then again, it makes no sense, because without a few words explanation, to click such a button wouldn't say anything. That's why I believe that such a 3rd choice should be avoided.

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  • endgamesmug
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    What about smiley faces, sad faces, angry faces/grimaces?
  • amig186
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    No
    Like others have said, too much potential for trolling, just quote the post and explain why you disagree with it.
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  • SerasWhip
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    No
    Jaustink wrote: »

    No. I do not want the forums to turn into another Reddit.
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  • ApoAlaia
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    No.

    If you agree you have a convenient agree button to express agreement without having to repeat the argument you agree with.

    If you disagree you should elaborate, a button cannot do that for you.

    If you are neutral you can already express neutrality by remaining silent on the matter.

  • SpacemanSpiff1
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    agree / disagree / lol
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    No
    There is a way to disagree:
    You just don't hit "agree" button.
    But with all seriousness... I have seen other video games forums that had a "disagree" button... you know what it was used for ? ;)
    Post "review bombing". I have different option vs some other random person on the Internet, therefore I am gonna use all my power and power of my guild friends to murder that posts that may or may not even be relevant lol. /S
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on February 2, 2023 1:49PM
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