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Stop freaking out about mist form. it's nothing like a streak.
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axi✭✭✭✭✭CaptainVenom wrote: »This. I hope this video helps in case people are still thinking they cloned Bolt Escape.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjB6eHQuy9k
not showing much, the lack of proper representation is worse than showing this.
does it pass over pits like streak does? what if cast at edge of a ledge?
anyway it looks very bad. Slower than sprinting with 180, slower than gap closers. What happens if a dk leaps on u while u "dash" ? since it's not giving cc immunity. What if u get pulled during it?
looks like "sprint with magicka but at full speed", would still rather pick race ag time cuz no ramping cost and also gives immobilisation immunity
Yes it passes over pits like streak does. It have some wierd rules to use it though. For example if You just cast it You need to cast it second time to get teleport but if You cast something else before it You get teleport instantly and You can repeat that procces but only if You will click mist form instantly after other ability so for an actuall mist form teleport You need 2 global cooldowns.1 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭acastanza_ESO wrote: »
This is coming from testing it in many different scenarios including all targeting options I could think of.Edited by axi on January 30, 2023 10:45PM0 -
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✭✭✭acastanza_ESO wrote: »
This is coming from testing it in many different scenarios including all targeting options I could think of.
Did you try enabling the setting to instantly cast ground targeted abilities (or whatever its called)?
If you do this, you will not need the extra click and the mistform will simply teleport you to wherever your camera crosshairs are pointed without any extra interaction.0 -
XomRhoK✭✭✭✭✭CaptainVenom wrote: »This. I hope this video helps in case people are still thinking they cloned Bolt Escape.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjB6eHQuy9k
not showing much, the lack of proper representation is worse than showing this.
does it pass over pits like streak does? what if cast at edge of a ledge?
anyway it looks very bad. Slower than sprinting with 180, slower than gap closers. What happens if a dk leaps on u while u "dash" ? since it's not giving cc immunity. What if u get pulled during it?
looks like "sprint with magicka but at full speed", would still rather pick race ag time cuz no ramping cost and also gives immobilisation immunity
Yes it passes over pits like streak does. It have some wierd rules to use it though. For example if You just cast it You need to cast it second time to get teleport but if You cast something else before it You get teleport instantly and You can repeat that procces but only if You will click mist form instantly after other ability so for an actuall mist form teleport You need 2 global cooldowns.
Same to me. Seems like a bug, because on video above all works fine.acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »
This is coming from testing it in many different scenarios including all targeting options I could think of.
Did you try enabling the setting to instantly cast ground targeted abilities (or whatever its called)?
If you do this, you will not need the extra click and the mistform will simply teleport you to wherever your camera crosshairs are pointed without any extra interaction.
He wrote that he did use all targeting options, so am i. With autocast ground targeting abilities on character go into Mist form after first press of a button, but he just don't streak to wherever your camera crosshairs are pointed. If i use it fast second time in a raw or after another ability character will streak to wherever your camera crosshairs are pointed after first press of a button. Seems like not all players have this problem.Edited by XomRhoK on January 30, 2023 10:57PM0 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »
This is coming from testing it in many different scenarios including all targeting options I could think of.
Did you try enabling the setting to instantly cast ground targeted abilities (or whatever its called)?
If you do this, you will not need the extra click and the mistform will simply teleport you to wherever your camera crosshairs are pointed without any extra interaction.
Yes I did try that. Still need two ability casts to get mist form teleport.0 -
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✭✭✭acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »
This is coming from testing it in many different scenarios including all targeting options I could think of.
Did you try enabling the setting to instantly cast ground targeted abilities (or whatever its called)?
If you do this, you will not need the extra click and the mistform will simply teleport you to wherever your camera crosshairs are pointed without any extra interaction.
Yes I did try that. Still need two ability casts to get mist form teleport.
No. No you don't.Edited by acastanza_ESO on January 30, 2023 11:45PM0 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »
This is coming from testing it in many different scenarios including all targeting options I could think of.
Did you try enabling the setting to instantly cast ground targeted abilities (or whatever its called)?
If you do this, you will not need the extra click and the mistform will simply teleport you to wherever your camera crosshairs are pointed without any extra interaction.
Yes I did try that. Still need two ability casts to get mist form teleport.
No. No you don't.
Oh yeah because You know better lol. Yes I did. All it did was making ability even less reliable.0 -
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✭✭✭acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »
This is coming from testing it in many different scenarios including all targeting options I could think of.
Did you try enabling the setting to instantly cast ground targeted abilities (or whatever its called)?
If you do this, you will not need the extra click and the mistform will simply teleport you to wherever your camera crosshairs are pointed without any extra interaction.
Yes I did try that. Still need two ability casts to get mist form teleport.
No. No you don't.
Oh yeah because You know better lol. Yes I did. All it did was making ability even less reliable.
Aparently? You simply do not need to cast any other ability, or double cast. You only need to click to set the target, or have the auto-cast setting enabled. We just did a test with new mistform racing a sorc with streak and the mistform is maybe a second slower over considerable range (4 casts of both = 1 second difference, so 0.25 seconds slower travel per cast - basically nothing). It is nothing like what you're saying there.
Also, we confirmed that it does still trigger the Strike From the Shadows passive, so on top of getting the Major Expedition and Major Evasion (or the AOE HOT) you ALSO get 300 weapon and spell damage for 6 seconds. This is straight up better than Ball of Lightining.
Edit: It appears that there might be a bug where some players are needing to cast the ability twice, so my apologies. But this is clearly not the intended behavior from the skill description, or our PTS gameplay.Edited by acastanza_ESO on January 31, 2023 12:00AM0 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »
This is coming from testing it in many different scenarios including all targeting options I could think of.
Did you try enabling the setting to instantly cast ground targeted abilities (or whatever its called)?
If you do this, you will not need the extra click and the mistform will simply teleport you to wherever your camera crosshairs are pointed without any extra interaction.
Yes I did try that. Still need two ability casts to get mist form teleport.
No. No you don't.
Oh yeah because You know better lol. Yes I did. All it did was making ability even less reliable.
Aparently? You simply do not need to cast any other ability, or double cast. You only need to click to set the target, or have the auto-cast setting enabled. We just did a test with new mistform racing a sorc with streak and the mistform is maybe a second slower over considerable range (4 casts of both = 1 second difference, so 0.25 seconds slower travel per cast - basically nothing). It is nothing like what you're saying there.
Also, we confirmed that it does still trigger the Strike From the Shadows passive, so on top of getting the Major Expedition and Major Evasion (or the AOE HOT) you ALSO get 300 weapon and spell damage for 6 seconds. This is straight up better than Ball of Lightining.
Maybe You don't have to but I need to in order to get the teleport portion. No difference with or without quick cast ground abilities option or wherever I will poiint the ability at I am not getting instant teleports. There is clearly something wrong with the ability itself since I am not the only person reporting that.0 -
XomRhoK✭✭✭✭✭acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »
This is coming from testing it in many different scenarios including all targeting options I could think of.
Did you try enabling the setting to instantly cast ground targeted abilities (or whatever its called)?
If you do this, you will not need the extra click and the mistform will simply teleport you to wherever your camera crosshairs are pointed without any extra interaction.
Yes I did try that. Still need two ability casts to get mist form teleport.
No. No you don't.
Oh yeah because You know better lol. Yes I did. All it did was making ability even less reliable.
Aparently? You simply do not need to cast any other ability, or double cast. You only need to click to set the target, or have the auto-cast setting enabled. We just did a test with new mistform racing a sorc with streak and the mistform is maybe a second slower over considerable range (4 casts of both = 1 second difference, so 0.25 seconds slower travel per cast - basically nothing). It is nothing like what you're saying there.
Also, we confirmed that it does still trigger the Strike From the Shadows passive, so on top of getting the Major Expedition and Major Evasion (or the AOE HOT) you ALSO get 300 weapon and spell damage for 6 seconds. This is straight up better than Ball of Lightining.
Edit: It appears that there might be a bug where some players are needing to cast the ability twice, so my apologies. But this is clearly not the intended behavior from the skill description, or our PTS gameplay.
Seems not all players have this bug, or we do something different. At video below auto ground targeting is on and i just spam Mist form button till magicka ends.
Edited by XomRhoK on January 31, 2023 12:30AM0 -
Jamie_Aubrey✭✭✭✭HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
No more running round towers and keeps in mist form, GET GOTRETIRED FROM ESOPC/EUFormer Empress & Grand Overlord Vex Valentino1 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭Jamie_Aubrey wrote: »HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
No more running round towers and keeps in mist form, GET GOT
If mist will be actually turned into reliable streak like ability it may actually get even worse than it is. Every class will get acces to sorc level of mobility while also having their own base defense. Nightblades will be able to mist teleport into cloak. DKs will be able to run with sea serpent coil and still be very mobile. If the way mist works for me it's just a bug and it will turn out to be reliable spammable teleport ability it may completly change PvP.0 -
athena9205✭✭✭I dont use mist form right now, but i do use gap closers in PVE, is it possible to get this to 22 or 28 meters to match other gap closers?0
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axi✭✭✭✭✭athena9205 wrote: »I dont use mist form right now, but i do use gap closers in PVE, is it possible to get this to 22 or 28 meters to match other gap closers?
No.1 -
Cireous✭✭✭✭✭
✭Love this version, it's fun darting around wherever you want!
*says the casual Khajiit PVE Vampire who just enjoys blood, speed, and thiefy elusiveness2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Jamie_Aubrey wrote: »HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
No more running round towers and keeps in mist form, GET GOT
Meh, I'll just keep using it like I always have, getting out of snares/immobilizations and really bad situations. Never really had a desire to line of sight or run around towers with it as that's dishonorable and kinda boring.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK1 -
Cireous✭✭✭✭✭
✭Okay, maybe I shouldn't thief around too much with this. It's unavoidable criminality.
Everyone is chasing me, everyone wants me dead.
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Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Okay, maybe I shouldn't thief around too much with this. It's unavoidable criminality.
Everyone is chasing me, everyone wants me dead.
Lol, sometimes it's fun to get the guards on ya like it's some kind of vampire hunter chasing you sort of deal!
Just make sure you're stage 4 so you can just poof at a moment's notice.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK1 -
Dangerjoe1982Soul Shrivenits cheaper than streak, but slower travel.
it procs a 300 weapon and spelldamage passive "Strike from the Shadows".
Both have their use cases.1 -
selig_fay✭✭✭Its no longer have CC immunity? Cause I don't see how that protects you from a shield that will knock you down.0
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Luede✭✭✭✭✭Jamie_Aubrey wrote: »HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
No more running round towers and keeps in mist form, GET GOT
If mist will be actually turned into reliable streak like ability it may actually get even worse than it is. Every class will get acces to sorc level of mobility while also having their own base defense. Nightblades will be able to mist teleport into cloak. DKs will be able to run with sea serpent coil and still be very mobile. If the way mist works for me it's just a bug and it will turn out to be reliable spammable teleport ability it may completly change PvP.
i don't see this as a big deal right now, then all the players will quickly realize how quickly a mana pool can be burned.1 -
RemoryAzure✭✭✭OP is totally wrong, coz not only mist is way better than streak on paper (instead of minor damage and stun we get 2 most important pvp buffs), but also provides exactly the same mobility as streak (mist animation is slower, but even with max distance still fits into single gcd so u can make exactly the same amount of teleports with both abilities during the same given amount of time), is actually better against roots and the most important thing that its way cheaper, about 2600 vs 3600 magicka2 -
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✭✭Is it currently bugged? I get the little circle to point where I want to dash but that it does is turn me into mist for one second. I can move as normal but still just a 1 sec mist? Was this not supposed to be closer in function to streak? As in cast at target location and your character dashes to that location instead of standing still in mist?PC - EU:
Falathren Noctis - AD MagNecro
Falathren - AD StamSorc
Falathren Eryndaer - AD StamDen
Falathren Irimion - AD MagPlar
Talagan Falathren - AD StamDK
Falathren Infernis - AD MagDK
Your-Ex - AD MagBlade1 -
axi✭✭✭✭✭Is it currently bugged? I get the little circle to point where I want to dash but that it does is turn me into mist for one second. I can move as normal but still just a 1 sec mist? Was this not supposed to be closer in function to streak? As in cast at target location and your character dashes to that location instead of standing still in mist?
Yes it is bugged. Works very differently for many players.2