Old Dungeon Remaster

Eliran · January 2023

I think all the old dungeons should be remastered .. (Yes even FG1)

The remastered version/new difficulty will intreduce modern stats/achievements and make them as hard as they once where.

I find some of them to have really fun mechanics and dynamics but today its being 100% useless because everything just die and out dated, its just sad to see them gone like this.

Its relatively cheap to remastered them and can be a really nice additional content to the community and bring lot's more challenge to the dying content which became a chore rather than fun.

What's your opinion on the matter?

spartaxoxo · January 2023

No, I dislike the idea cause I am too cool for remastered content, I am having fun 1 shot every boss while skipping mechanics for the lolz, pretend I am so good!

Biased poll options aside, I still voted no. The current dungeons have a progression of difficulty to help teach players how to take on more difficult tasks. That is a good thing IMO. The newer dungeons are all more difficult than the oldest ones like Fungal Grotto. Some of the newer ones are quite the fun challenge to try and get the achievements in.

Eliran · January 2023

Yes make it happen! I would love to run the older dungeons again, actually feel the challenge the way it supposed to be and have fun!

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Biased poll options aside, the current dungeons have a progression of difficulty to help teach players how to take on more difficult tasks. That is a good thing IMO.

You add a new difficulty, similar to veteran, make veteran+ or something ..

For older players, running old veterans is just waste of time, I can literally solo them on HM right now, I remember when game was released how much I liked them and enjoyed them, today? just a chore to help someone farm set or whatever.

Its an already made content ready for play, just adjust the stats and boom its ready for high level play as well.

It will work well for high end players like me who literally farmed trifectas with really minor work, which as a result will make this game more alive, its a win win, no one said delete the old difficulty.

SirGabenOfSteamia · January 2023

Yes make it happen! I would love to run the older dungeons again, actually feel the challenge the way it supposed to be and have fun!

Personally I don't even do the old dungeons anymore just because they're so easy it's not even that fun for me. That all being said I wouldn't necessarily like for them to be remastered so much as I'd love for an incentive to be added to have older players going back other than just the keys from the undaunted dailies. Most base game dungeon sets are supremely outclassed by anything from the dlcs, and while yeah there are the few monster sets that people actually use, I am not one of those players. Maybe new motifs or furnishings that drop rarely or something, they haven't been touched since One Tamriel anyway.

spartaxoxo · January 2023

No, I dislike the idea cause I am too cool for remastered content, I am having fun 1 shot every boss while skipping mechanics for the lolz, pretend I am so good!

Eliran wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Biased poll options aside, the current dungeons have a progression of difficulty to help teach players how to take on more difficult tasks. That is a good thing IMO.

You add a new difficulty, similar to veteran, make veteran+ or something ..

For older players, running old veterans is just waste of time, I can literally solo them on HM right now, I remember when game was released how much I liked them and enjoyed them, today? just a chore to help someone farm set or whatever.

Its an already made content ready for play, just adjust the stats and boom its ready for high level play as well.

It will work well for high end players like me who literally farmed trifectas with really minor work, which as a result will make this game more alive, its a win win, no one said delete the old difficulty.

A remaster is when you change the existing content. You might want to change up your description a bit if you want to add a Hardmode + option rather than changing the old content to a new standard. I could get behind a Hardmode+ with some fun swag, but not changing the old stuff as I think it suits its purpose well.

Cazador · January 2023

No, I dislike the idea cause I am too cool for remastered content, I am having fun 1 shot every boss while skipping mechanics for the lolz, pretend I am so good!

I might be able to breeze through them but there are many more newer players who may not. As a bit of general advice for everyone, try not to throw your own bias into poll options. It makes the poll look better and it would take less time and effort.

Androrix · January 2023

No, I dislike the idea cause I am too cool for remastered content, I am having fun 1 shot every boss while skipping mechanics for the lolz, pretend I am so good!

I don't one shot every boss as a solo player at all. I think the wording of the poll could use some work.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · January 2023

If I could snap my fingers and do it, sure, but that is not real life. Its a question of resources and they have much bigger fish to fry. Remastering all the non DLCS would not be trivial and it certainly would not be cheap.

Also, power creep and older content getting easier is arguably a good thing, at least to a point. It means more content becomes accessible to a larger portion of the player as time goes on. Sure FG1 is a faceroll, but I have run it so many times that I am just not sure a more difficult version would be all that appealing.

The_Titan_Tim · January 2023

I like carrots.

Negative, ghost rider.

Alpheu5 · January 2023

I like carrots.

A lot of the older dungeons were never hard, we as a community just got better at the game and collectively figured them out more easily over time because they're accessible to everybody and have been in the game for the longest. Many people could still run through the content with only weapons equipped and no CP. Bloating healthbars without changing mechanics won't address the "boring" factor for vets, just make it feel like the same dance but even more dragged on. The best way to revamp a dungeon would be by telling a second or third story within the environment and more advanced enemies:

Vaults of Madness - Did the ghosts end up becoming corrupted trying to master the place like the Architect?

Banished Cells - What happened to all the inhabitants once all the Keepers were dead?

Volenfell - It would surely be overrun with undead based on the endless spawning of skeletons at the end of the quest, possibly threatening the Alik'r if it's not addressed.

Eliran · January 2023

Yes make it happen! I would love to run the older dungeons again, actually feel the challenge the way it supposed to be and have fun!

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Eliran wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Biased poll options aside, the current dungeons have a progression of difficulty to help teach players how to take on more difficult tasks. That is a good thing IMO.

You add a new difficulty, similar to veteran, make veteran+ or something ..

For older players, running old veterans is just waste of time, I can literally solo them on HM right now, I remember when game was released how much I liked them and enjoyed them, today? just a chore to help someone farm set or whatever.

Its an already made content ready for play, just adjust the stats and boom its ready for high level play as well.

It will work well for high end players like me who literally farmed trifectas with really minor work, which as a result will make this game more alive, its a win win, no one said delete the old difficulty.

A remaster is when you change the existing content. You might want to change up your description a bit if you want to add a Hardmode + option rather than changing the old content to a new standard. I could get behind a Hardmode+ with some fun swag, but not changing the old stuff as I think it suits its purpose well.

No, a remaster is when you take something old and modernize it/make it better.

Araneae6537 · January 2023

I like carrots.

While I would be happy to have a more challenging mode option, I wouldn’t rather have this than new dungeons, and the current dungeons serve the purpose of introducing new players, although elite players racing through and crushing everything must diminish the experience, but that’s a problem for normal rather than veteran dungeons.

Soarora · January 2023

Yes make it happen! I would love to run the older dungeons again, actually feel the challenge the way it supposed to be and have fun!

The current dungeons shouldn't be changed but I do think that the dungeons lacking in achievements should gain them. Give dungeons without trifecta achievements (and the trials that don't), trifecta achievements. Add rewards for challengers that don't have any rewards. And sure, add an ultra HM version to old dungeons to make them harder.

RaptorRodeoGod · January 2023

I like carrots.

If they add an additional difficulty to the base game dungeons to bring them up to the level of DLC dungeons, they should add an additional difficulty level to DLC dungeons to bring them down to Vet Base game dungeon difficulty.

I personally like the difficulty of Vet Base game dungeons because they're not necessarily easy enough to steamroll, but I don't have to be laser focused to finish them. It's the perfect headspace and I'm disappointed Vet DLCs don't have the same mindset.

Artim_X · January 2023

I like carrots.

They need to stay as they are for peeps that are just starting to learn their roles and get into the game.

Heartrage · January 2023

No, I dislike the idea cause I am too cool for remastered content, I am having fun 1 shot every boss while skipping mechanics for the lolz, pretend I am so good!

The old, more basic dungeons are great for new players that still have trouble with mechanics. I would rather see new dungeons that are more interesting for veterans and new reward structures that make these old dungeons worth more for veterans that have already completed them.

Also, biased polls devalue the data collected.

spartaxoxo · January 2023

No, I dislike the idea cause I am too cool for remastered content, I am having fun 1 shot every boss while skipping mechanics for the lolz, pretend I am so good!

Eliran wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Eliran wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Biased poll options aside, the current dungeons have a progression of difficulty to help teach players how to take on more difficult tasks. That is a good thing IMO.

You add a new difficulty, similar to veteran, make veteran+ or something ..

For older players, running old veterans is just waste of time, I can literally solo them on HM right now, I remember when game was released how much I liked them and enjoyed them, today? just a chore to help someone farm set or whatever.

Its an already made content ready for play, just adjust the stats and boom its ready for high level play as well.

It will work well for high end players like me who literally farmed trifectas with really minor work, which as a result will make this game more alive, its a win win, no one said delete the old difficulty.

A remaster is when you change the existing content. You might want to change up your description a bit if you want to add a Hardmode + option rather than changing the old content to a new standard. I could get behind a Hardmode+ with some fun swag, but not changing the old stuff as I think it suits its purpose well.

No, a remaster is when you take something old and modernize it/make it better.

Yeah. And that's accomplished by changing the old stuff to make it more modern. So a remaster of Fungal Grotto would be stuff like changing the enemies so they have more health, adding some new mechs to the boss fights, changing the hard mode scroll into a challenge banner, updating the textures so the dungeon looks better, that sort of thing.

I mean, it's up to you, it's your poll. But, if you want to capture more "yes" votes from people who would welcome new stuff added, but be opposed to old stuff changed, then it might be helpful to make it more clear that's your idea. Just a friendly suggestion as someone who voted no based off not wanting the old stuff changed, but would have voted yes to a new ultra hard mode added. Do with it what you will.

bmnoble · January 2023

Not a fan of those biased poll options, personally I prefer a lot of the older dungeons over the newer ones and think they should be left alone.

Surragard · January 2023

No, I dislike the idea cause I am too cool for remastered content, I am having fun 1 shot every boss while skipping mechanics for the lolz, pretend I am so good!

I’d rather see new content than trying to remaster old.

Dragonlord573 · January 2023

No, I dislike the idea cause I am too cool for remastered content, I am having fun 1 shot every boss while skipping mechanics for the lolz, pretend I am so good!

Truly couldn't care less about base game dungeons cause they're so bloody simple that even on vet hard you can just 3/4 DD it down in a mindless fashion. The actual difficult and worthwhile content is in dlc dungeons that aren't just 100% tank and spanks.

SeaGtGruff · January 2023

I like carrots.

I don't think existing dungeons should be changed to make them more difficult, because the various dungeons are of varying difficulty in order to be accessible to players of differing levels. Fungal Grotto I, Spindleclutch I, and The Banished Cells I are available to players at Level 10; Darkshade Caverns I is available to players at Level 12; Elden Hollow I is available to players at Level 14; and so on.

robwolf666 · January 2023

Yes make it happen! I would love to run the older dungeons again, actually feel the challenge the way it supposed to be and have fun!

If they make solo versions.

Stx · January 2023

Yes make it happen! I would love to run the older dungeons again, actually feel the challenge the way it supposed to be and have fun!

I like the base game dungeons as they are, but I voted yes because this game desperately needs anything that’s new.

ForzaRammer · January 2023

Maybe you should have a fair poll instead of leading questions

jtm1018 · January 2023

Yes make it happen! I would love to run the older dungeons again, actually feel the challenge the way it supposed to be and have fun!

It would be great if they advance the little story they have going for those old dungeons, maybe as part of the endless dungeons stuff they said in their reveal?

Vrienda · January 2023

No, I dislike the idea cause I am too cool for remastered content, I am having fun 1 shot every boss while skipping mechanics for the lolz, pretend I am so good!

Absolutely not. I -despise- ESO dungeons. I cancelled my ESO+ sub just so I'd lose access to all the garbage DLC ones.

ZOS have much, much bigger issues to deal with than revamping the only tolerable dungeons they have.

endgamesmug · January 2023

I like carrots.

Wouldnt make it anymore interesting imo

BloodyStigmata · January 2023

Your poll options leave a lot to be desired.

As far as dungeons go, sure, it would be nice for them to be remastered, but unreasonable to expect it.

wilykcat · January 2023

Yes make it happen! I would love to run the older dungeons again, actually feel the challenge the way it supposed to be and have fun!

It would be awesome if the older dungeons got remastered along with adding in more difficulty options. I also like eating carrots. Its a good healthy snack while playing Elderscrolls especially when doing dungeons.

Ragnarok0130 · January 2023

No, I dislike the idea cause I am too cool for remastered content, I am having fun 1 shot every boss while skipping mechanics for the lolz, pretend I am so good!

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Biased poll options aside, I still voted no. The current dungeons have a progression of difficulty to help teach players how to take on more difficult tasks. That is a good thing IMO. The newer dungeons are all more difficult than the oldest ones like Fungal Grotto. Some of the newer ones are quite the fun challenge to try and get the achievements in.

Precisely the points I wanted to make. The starter dungeons are meant for new players not to be the equivalent of Depths of Malatar.

sarahthes · January 2023

I like carrots.

Neither of the above. Add a third difficulty level for the easiest dungeons instead. Higher HP and damage for the adds and early bosses and a new mechanic for the last boss along with more HP and damage.

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