Please give us the option to turn off permanent companion keepsakes after we get them to max level.

Stinkyremy

While I get that they are fine being active while the companion is active, but after getting to max level we get the keepsake which makes the perk permanent for us, even with no companion around.
On pen and paper this seems good but in practical terms it is a major annoyance.

For an example, atm I have only fully levelled bastion and as much as I hated his incessant repeated patronising dialogue what I hate more is that 3 of my inventory slots were taken up by what is essentially trash pots (with an extra buff)
I could deal with the loss of 3 inventory slots while I was levelling him (only for the in game achievements) and had to have him around, but then after getting him fully completed, I found out that the keepsake that is forced upon me gives me his buff permanently with no way to turn it off.


Yes you might think "it is only 3 inventory spaces, just destroy or sell them if you don't want them"
Well firstly this makes no difference. Sell them, kill an enemy, 3 trash pots with their own unique inventory space are back in my inventory.
Secondly, I bought the pack pets to give my chars an extra 5 inventory space (3 of them) so essentially 1 of them is near useless and I wasted like 1200 on a wasted extra inventory space upgrade.
Thirdly time is money baby. The time spent selling the trash pots is money and inventory wasted that I could have been using farming or holding actual good loot (yes I auto loot everything anyway)
Fourthly, new chars who have very limited inventory space are gonna feel the pain of having to go into their inventory every 3-5 mins and destroying/selling the extra trash.
Lastly this issue is gonna be exacerbates FIVEFOLD when I actually level up the other 4 companions to max. That will make my 3 pack pets, 15 extra spaces, 4500 crowns, completely useless.

Just let us turn it off, none of what the companions are dropping atm are worth the inventory space, especially not bastions keepsake.
If I farmed 25 flowers I could make 200 better pots than those trash pots would ever be. Having basic trash pots always cluttering inventory is a pain on it's own anyway.

I don't even want companions, I am only doing them to get the achievements, I definitely do not want their "stench" of their perks hanging around after that.
I understand some people like them and tbh i really like mirri and her elegant VA and dialogue, but after she is levelled I will never see her again.
The option of turning other peoples companions off in the world would also be a good thing. Same for both combat and non combat pets.

Dr_Con

If I farmed 25 flowers I could make 200 better pots than those trash pots would ever be.

psst, 25 corn flowers can only make 100 pots. what racial/class passive lets you make 200 O_O

Treselegant

I think there is no solution that will please you. Despite having no real interest in companions, you made a decision to engage with them as a feature and now the feature is working as intended. As satisfying as it is to rant, sometimes we all have to take responsibility for our own feelings.

Stinkyremy

Dr_Con wrote: »

If I farmed 25 flowers I could make 200 better pots than those trash pots would ever be.

psst, 25 corn flowers can only make 100 pots. what racial/class passive lets you make 200 O_O

I am assuming this is sarcasm.

Treselegant wrote: »

I think there is no solution that will please you. Despite having no real interest in companions, you made a decision to engage with them as a feature and now the feature is working as intended. As satisfying as it is to rant, sometimes we all have to take responsibility for our own feelings.

Simple option to activate/deactivate the keepsakes in the upgrade menu will fix the issue.
Similar to a skill in the skills. Some skills I do not activate because they are more of an annoyance, like free revive of a soul gem once per 24 hours in soul magic. Or there are a few in DB and thieves guild I do not activate at all.

Also, in fact the game or achievement did not even mention what the keepsakes were at all. I didn't know until I max levelled bastion that I get his buff permanently, I just thought it would be like a memento or something for getting the achievement.
I probably would have put it on hold and teetered him under max rank if I had knew.

Treselegant

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Dr_Con wrote: »

If I farmed 25 flowers I could make 200 better pots than those trash pots would ever be.

psst, 25 corn flowers can only make 100 pots. what racial/class passive lets you make 200 O_O

I am assuming this is sarcasm.

Treselegant wrote: »

I think there is no solution that will please you. Despite having no real interest in companions, you made a decision to engage with them as a feature and now the feature is working as intended. As satisfying as it is to rant, sometimes we all have to take responsibility for our own feelings.

Simple option to activate/deactivate the keepsakes in the upgrade menu will fix the issue.
Similar to a skill in the skills. Some skills I do not activate because they are more of an annoyance, like free revive of a soul gem once per 24 hours in soul magic. Or there are a few in DB and thieves guild I do not activate at all.

Also, in fact the game or achievement did not even mention what the keepsakes were at all. I didn't know until I max levelled bastion that I get his buff permanently, I just thought it would be like a memento or something for getting the achievement.
I probably would have put it on hold and teetered him under max rank if I had knew.

I'm going to be honest with you - This isn't an issue for the vast majority of players and I don't think the game should have to change because some players don't learn enough about a feature they choose to engage in. Should the certain skills that you prefer not to use have the option to be disabled perminantly for other users because of your personal preference? No, obviously not, because its not needed. It's just not really something the developers should be wasting their time on.

jad11mumbler

I don't think the game should have to change because some players

Ah yes, the big change of adding a very simple option to disable them.

That'd take months of Dev time and then they'd miss out on the chapter release, it'd be such a terrible mess.
They'd have to pull all the devs off of the PvP code rewrite for this tiny change.


I agree though OP, I only wanted the achievements and would prefer to not have to deal with the "Useful Items" .
Thankfully selling them can be automated on PC at least with addons like Personal Assistant.
But not getting them in the first place would be better.

Snamyap

Mark those potions as junk and they will automatically stack there. Still take inventory room but at least they are out of sight. I would prefer if I could turn those off too, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

opalcity

I absolutely agree.

Veinblood1965

I've not gotten any companion to max level. Can't you just delete the potions? Or do they just pop right back?

Grizzbeorn

That'll learn ya for cahooting with Bastian.

Agenericname

Treselegant wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Dr_Con wrote: »

If I farmed 25 flowers I could make 200 better pots than those trash pots would ever be.

psst, 25 corn flowers can only make 100 pots. what racial/class passive lets you make 200 O_O

I am assuming this is sarcasm.

Treselegant wrote: »

I think there is no solution that will please you. Despite having no real interest in companions, you made a decision to engage with them as a feature and now the feature is working as intended. As satisfying as it is to rant, sometimes we all have to take responsibility for our own feelings.

Simple option to activate/deactivate the keepsakes in the upgrade menu will fix the issue.
Similar to a skill in the skills. Some skills I do not activate because they are more of an annoyance, like free revive of a soul gem once per 24 hours in soul magic. Or there are a few in DB and thieves guild I do not activate at all.

Also, in fact the game or achievement did not even mention what the keepsakes were at all. I didn't know until I max levelled bastion that I get his buff permanently, I just thought it would be like a memento or something for getting the achievement.
I probably would have put it on hold and teetered him under max rank if I had knew.

I'm going to be honest with you - This isn't an issue for the vast majority of players and I don't think the game should have to change because some players don't learn enough about a feature they choose to engage in. Should the certain skills that you prefer not to use have the option to be disabled perminantly for other users because of your personal preference? No, obviously not, because its not needed. It's just not really something the developers should be wasting their time on.

Does Ember's keepsake displace other items in the loot pool when pickpocketing? I seem to remember a few threads about it doing just that. I haven't verified that it does or doesn't. If that's the case, then yes, there should be an option to turn it off.

wolfie1.0.

I don't really see the issue. It's no worse than zos adding a new trash item to the loot table. Just trash the item or sell it. Personally I find it more annoying that maps don't stack, and would prefer zos deal with that issue before this one. But sure ask for it, not likely to happen.

Treselegant

Agenericname wrote: »

Treselegant wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Dr_Con wrote: »

If I farmed 25 flowers I could make 200 better pots than those trash pots would ever be.

psst, 25 corn flowers can only make 100 pots. what racial/class passive lets you make 200 O_O

I am assuming this is sarcasm.

Treselegant wrote: »

I think there is no solution that will please you. Despite having no real interest in companions, you made a decision to engage with them as a feature and now the feature is working as intended. As satisfying as it is to rant, sometimes we all have to take responsibility for our own feelings.

Simple option to activate/deactivate the keepsakes in the upgrade menu will fix the issue.
Similar to a skill in the skills. Some skills I do not activate because they are more of an annoyance, like free revive of a soul gem once per 24 hours in soul magic. Or there are a few in DB and thieves guild I do not activate at all.

Also, in fact the game or achievement did not even mention what the keepsakes were at all. I didn't know until I max levelled bastion that I get his buff permanently, I just thought it would be like a memento or something for getting the achievement.
I probably would have put it on hold and teetered him under max rank if I had knew.

I'm going to be honest with you - This isn't an issue for the vast majority of players and I don't think the game should have to change because some players don't learn enough about a feature they choose to engage in. Should the certain skills that you prefer not to use have the option to be disabled perminantly for other users because of your personal preference? No, obviously not, because its not needed. It's just not really something the developers should be wasting their time on.

Does Ember's keepsake displace other items in the loot pool when pickpocketing? I seem to remember a few threads about it doing just that. I haven't verified that it does or doesn't. If that's the case, then yes, there should be an option to turn it off.

I do not know. If it is, then I can only recommend that the issue be pressed again in a different thread (its probably related to the way companions are lacking in polish) because the complaint here is rather different. OP took time to level up the companions but is apparently now too time poor to even junk/sell the few bits of loot you may get from the keepsakes. The amount of potions you get though Bastian's perk, for example, is trivial and hardly something that requires a toggle.

I don't even want companions, I am only doing them to get the achievements, I definitely do not want their "stench" of their perks hanging around after that.

That's quite an ask. At some point you have to take responsibilty for your decisions and manage your expections as to what the game can offer you. You can't just engage with something then complain that you engaged with it. I mean, you can, but it seems rather pointless.

SilverBride

I don't mind most of them but the potions are something I will never use. I don't need the inventory space they take up but if there was an option to toggle this off I would.

Necrotech_Master

ive maxed out the companions basically within weeks of them coming out so have had all 4 keepsakes for awhile (once they managed to fix the isobel one at least lol)

3 of the 4 drops from the keepsakes are simple containers that you just open, good portion of the time its either mats (which go to craft bag), or straight gold, the rest of the time its junk treasure items, which while they take up some space can just sell them (i use addons to auto mark them as junk and to auto-sell all junk when i talk to a merchant)

i just let the bastion pots stack up, because they only ever take 3 inventory spaces, and when i get max stack i list them on the guild store because they are more valuable than the generic versions

the containers from the other 3 companion passives each take up a separate bag slot, but some of them come from really specific sources (embers ONLY comes from pickpocketing, and isobels ONLY comes from world bosses) (while mirris can come from any treasure chest and is a bit more noticeable)

Treselegant

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't mind most of them but the potions are something I will never use. I don't need the inventory space they take up but if there was an option to toggle this off I would.

Ideally, they should be replaced with something more useful. Earlier on in his development, it seems Bastian as a companion was a crafter who appeciated the player crafting and that's why his boon is potions. Upon release, nearly all that was removed and there now seems no real reason why he should give you potions. Just replace them with something similar to Isobel's 'Knight's pack' which makes more sense with the current state of his characterisation.

spartaxoxo

I second this. I don't think people should be able to create a permanent, unfixable nuisance on their account.

Amottica

I agree since a small nuisance quickly becomes a significant problem after fully leveling multiple companions.

I would suggest being able to turn off the perk for each companion individually since someone might want to access the perk from one companion but not the others.

DinoZavr

On PC you can use the JunkBuster addon to autodestroy unwanted items on pickup. Problem solved.
Our console brothers have no such luxury, though

Vevvev

They don't even sell for more like I thought they would, and it just ended up with Bastian's keepsake being a net loss rather than a gain. I don't even use the specialized potions as I only drink tri-pots for the content I do and for activating my Clever Alchemist set.

When I PvP I am more worried trying to get all the siege weapons I want on my quickslot wheel so only ever put the one single potion type anyway. I'd love for Bastian's potions to sell for more, or for the thing to be turned off.

redspecter23

I think I wouldn't mind them so much if they didn't take up inventory space. Bastian's perk for instance might be better if instead of giving you more junk to sell, it added a small passive boost to all potions you consume. That way, it's 100% upside. Even if you just got back an extra 10 Mag/Stam/Health upon potion use, that could still be useful compared to not getting it at all and it wouldn't clog your inventory.

However, that seems to be the theme of the trinkets. They are heavy on lore and also heavy on your inventory space, especially when you have all of them working all the time.

I'm not against the ability to toggle them off. It seems like a reasonable request. Other options include allowing them to stack with themselves or convert them from items to a separate tab more like currency. You could then exchange that currency for potions/sacks/etc. at your convenience. It would work more like undaunted keys and coffers that way.

CGPsaint

Of all the things to complain about in this game at the moment, I don't think that 3 inventory slots being taken by something that can be sold to a vendor in 2 seconds, is at the top of the list of things that desperately need to be addressed.

WrathOfInnos

I like the idea of upgraded potions, but the implementation isn't great. What if all trash potions were upgraded so you didn't have to carry both types? That would be more useful.

BretonMage

I think we might as well just ask for less trash in drops. There are far, far more trash pots, white glyphs and junk items that drop than any of the companion's boons. And the solution is the same for all of these trash items: 1) don't loot them; or 2) automark them for junk.

Hapexamendios

I guess everyone has their little things that bug them.

Carcamongus

The keepsake's effect should feel like a reward, not a consequence with which one has to deal...

whitecrow

They really should make this stuff scale with the player, so it would be useful. I feel like all these types of bonuses (incl. wet gunny sacks) are just for beginners.

Cazador

The passive doesn't really bother me since it's only 3 inventory spaces but I don't see why it couldn't be toggleable. I might not use it but it's a fair request.

MasterSpatula

Of course there's people trashing you for this perfectly reasonable request to turn off a pointless annoyance. Because of course there are.

Dr_Con

Either make all potions change to double stat or give the option to turn off the keepsake's bonus. I see the OP's frustration and he made many good points.

This part of the post is a perfectly valid request. I doubt the top devs discussed, in a secret dimly-lit conclave where they discuss such things, how this would take up 3 inventory slots and that they wanted to inflict this burden on every player who completes a series of quests on that account.

AinSoph

Surely if people want an option to turn off keepsakes, then it surely would be just as reasonable to have the option to untick DLC dungeons from random queue, right?