Set that makes sorcerers immortal

Melzo

The Engine Guardian set spawns a guard every ten seconds and when an enemy tries to hit you, it hits that guard. Most 99 percent of the players first kill the guardian and then start to beat the sorcerer but fail as the guardian reappears. And aiming at a sorcerer during a battle is almost impossible. I have seen undying sorcerers so many times just because of the presence of this set. You literally give the sorcerer an extra 10ka shield every 10 seconds. Of course, you can put this set on any class, but the sorcerer is the most mobile class and this set just works more efficiently on him.

This set shouldn't work like that. You literally can't help but beat the guard. So he still recovers very often.


Solution. Increase the cooldown of this set.Or make it so that this guard cannot be selected with the cursor.
The set gives a large resource recovery and a shield for 10ka health every 10 seconds. He should give one thing but even a 10k shield is too much for pvp. It does not decrease by 2 times due to the fact that this health is a guard. It gives more protection to the sorcerer than any other set.

Melzo

If you give health to pets, you can also give health to my skeleton mage and ghost. I will take this set and be immortal.

Bouldercleave

Any response that I give here will be considered inflammatory and baiting by the mods. Been there, done that.



Sorry, but I can't help you on this one.

Jaraal

If you are on PC you can use TAB key to lock on to your target.

Jamie_Aubrey

Wait until you see me with 4-5 pets

2 main Sorc pets
Inferno Maw Monster Set
Mad Tinkerer Set
Atro Ulti

Welcome to my Zoo

zaria

Engine guardian tags behind you, People use it to get back resources.
Well if you chase some its easy to hit it.

Dr_Con

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Any response that I give here will be considered inflammatory and baiting by the mods. Been there, done that.



Sorry, but I can't help you on this one.

ibuprofen is good for inflammation

LogicOfLiam

Jaraal wrote: »

If you are on PC you can use TAB key to lock on to your target.

And I believe on console its R3? I haven't played for a few months so I could have that wrong but I'm 98% sure it is.

Katlefiya

What exactly makes Engine Guardian in your eyes a problem only for sorcerers? Either it is overpowered for every class, or it isn't.

bmnoble

It's not every 10 seconds, It has a 25% chance of activating, you can be left high and dry just as easily if RNG screws you around.

Roztlin45

Just Nerf sorc and be done with it. Mag sorc should not even be allowed to wear armor. One staff made of mud and a copper ring. J/K lol

zaria

Katlefiya wrote: »

What exactly makes Engine Guardian in your eyes a problem only for sorcerers? Either it is overpowered for every class, or it isn't.

very good question, I say sorcerer and warden has less need for it as they has other pets who can absorb hits.
But I rarely see people using pets or engine guardian in Cyrodil.

MarioMario

You can bash E.G.

SPR_of_HA_community

Melzo wrote: »

The Engine Guardian set spawns a guard every ten seconds and when an enemy tries to hit you, it hits that guard. Most 99 percent of the players first kill the guardian and then start to beat the sorcerer but fail as the guardian reappears. And aiming at a sorcerer during a battle is almost impossible. I have seen undying sorcerers so many times just because of the presence of this set. You literally give the sorcerer an extra 10ka shield every 10 seconds. Of course, you can put this set on any class, but the sorcerer is the most mobile class and this set just works more efficiently on him.

This set shouldn't work like that. You literally can't help but beat the guard. So he still recovers very often.


Solution. Increase the cooldown of this set.Or make it so that this guard cannot be selected with the cursor.
The set gives a large resource recovery and a shield for 10ka health every 10 seconds. He should give one thing but even a 10k shield is too much for pvp. It does not decrease by 2 times due to the fact that this health is a guard. It gives more protection to the sorcerer than any other set.

How about overpowered sorcs build with assylum shield and sword and infinity shielding / healing and mana ?

luen79rwb17_ESO

Why is this supposedly a sorc-only thing?

SPR_of_HA_community

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Why is this supposedly a sorc-only thing?

May be because sorc can use any resource and convert it to another source with no "-".

As example stamina to mana/mana to stamina. He even heal due to this process.

But I do not know seriosly.

Engine guardian is just good monster set that is annoying in PVP, because you always hit it, but not its user )))

It would be much simpler, if in PVP you can turn of pets or make it untargetable in menu.

Tons of pets really are annoying.

May be this is the real problem.

hrothbern

How much damage do you need to kill an Engine Guardian ?

SPR_of_HA_community

Is it a reason to kill it ? ) It exist for a very limited time, so I even do not think about such option. I hear that you can bash it, to stop its resource giving, but I think he is fat enough to kill it. It exist to short for that.

WabanakiWarrior

Pet builds are a viable way of playing the game. EG is a little dwemer pet. I hate pet builds too, but it's always been an aspect of Elder Scrolls games. There are frustrating things about EG though. I suggest creating the exact build you hate and seeing how limited EG really is.

Ragged_Claw

Not sure how this is a 'sorc' thing. I see all different classes using it in BGs and it's mostly just annoying, which is kinda the point. I think 'immortal' is a bit of a stretch. If I am wrong then I will start using it immediately.

Jaraal

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Why is this supposedly a sorc-only thing?

OP said they were having a hard time manually targeting sorc because of "mobility" (Streak).

hrothbern

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

Is it a reason to kill it ? ) It exist for a very limited time, so I even do not think about such option. I hear that you can bash it, to stop its resource giving, but I think he is fat enough to kill it. It exist to short for that.

yes
tooltip EG:
When you use an ability that costs resources, you have a 25% chance to summon a Dwemer automation to restore 550 Stamina or Magicka or 1955 Health to you every 0.5 seconds for 6 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

You need to kill within 6 seconds to decrease the total restored and within 3 seconds or so to get a meaningful reduction.

But it all still depends on the amount damage needed.

Jaraal

WabanakiWarrior wrote: »

Pet builds are a viable way of playing the game. EG is a little dwemer pet. I hate pet builds too, but it's always been an aspect of Elder Scrolls games. There are frustrating things about EG though. I suggest creating the exact build you hate and seeing how limited EG really is.

It's kind of nice seeing them in PvP on certain endeavor days, when you can get "Destroy X amount of Dwemer automatons" simply by DOTing the player.... and when player dies or if the EG timer expires while they are DOTted, it counts.

SPR_of_HA_community

Jaraal wrote: »

WabanakiWarrior wrote: »

Pet builds are a viable way of playing the game. EG is a little dwemer pet. I hate pet builds too, but it's always been an aspect of Elder Scrolls games. There are frustrating things about EG though. I suggest creating the exact build you hate and seeing how limited EG really is.

It's kind of nice seeing them in PvP on certain endeavor days, when you can get "Destroy X amount of Dwemer automatons" simply by DOTing the player.... and when player dies or if the EG timer expires while they are DOTted, it counts.

Yes. It helps to do endeavour s some times ))

Really good option )

Oreyn_Bearclaw

I actually checked to be sure this wasnt a necro thread from like 2016. Are we really complaining about engine guardian Sorcs being unkillable? Sorcs are bottom tier in PVP right now, and despite what Deltia says, Engine Guardian is trash. A sorc that isnt spec'ed 100% into damage hits like a wet noodle. I might actually uninstall, or at least take a long timeout, if I got killed by an EG sorc in the current meta.

Also, 2 words: TAB TARGET.

Dr_Con

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Also, 2 words: TAB TARGET.

NO THAT WAS A GATEKEPT SECRET NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo

Pelanora

Shouldn't this be a rumor post lol? Immortal sorcs, I can't even.

wolfie1.0.

Just make pvp a naked fist fight with no cp or passives and be done with it

Kaelthorn_Nightbloom

FYI bash builds hard counter players that run Engine Guardian.

Deadlands Demolisher proc automatically interrupts the pet's channel.

Veiled Heritence proc gives 516 weapon and spell damage when you interrupt an enemy.

So not only is the Engine Guardian pet worthless, it also buffs your Power Slam by 8-10% damage.

El_Borracho

Engine Guardian is now OP. I guess everything at some point in this game will be OP. Better start holding onto Spelunker just in case

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Pelanora wrote: »

Shouldn't this be a rumor post lol? Immortal sorcs, I can't even.

Yeah, if I was trying to build a Troll Tank, aka an unkillable player, I dont think an EG sorc would even crack the top 100 of things I would try. LOL