Set that makes sorcerers immortal

Vevvev

LogicOfLiam wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

If you are on PC you can use TAB key to lock on to your target.

And I believe on console its R3? I haven't played for a few months so I could have that wrong but I'm 98% sure it is.

Something like that, yeah. I think it's the same joystick as looking around, but I could be wrong.

Dr_Con

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Pelanora wrote: »

Shouldn't this be a rumor post lol? Immortal sorcs, I can't even.

Yeah, if I was trying to build a Troll Tank, aka an unkillable player, I dont think an EG sorc would even crack the top 100 of things I would try. LOL

to be fair, a tank sorc is pretty difficult in pvp to kill

until you kill the clannfear. Once you kill the clannfear, they become very killable.

Still, the most unkillable thing i've ever seen, hands down, is pre-nerf mara's balm tankcros in Cyrodiil.

Jaraal

WabanakiWarrior wrote: »

Pet builds are a viable way of playing the game. EG is a little dwemer pet. I hate pet builds too, but it's always been an aspect of Elder Scrolls games. There are frustrating things about EG though. I suggest creating the exact build you hate and seeing how limited EG really is.

Problem with pet zoo builds (including targetable proc pets like EG and Chokethorn) in PvP is that every pet is a damage multiplier for a Plaguebreak or Dark Convergence proc. And pet resistances are also added to the player's resistances when calculating damage for Hrothgar's Chill.

Also, enough people who didn't know how to tab target complained about werewolf pet interference that ZOS eventually made them untargetable.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Dr_Con wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Pelanora wrote: »

Shouldn't this be a rumor post lol? Immortal sorcs, I can't even.

Yeah, if I was trying to build a Troll Tank, aka an unkillable player, I dont think an EG sorc would even crack the top 100 of things I would try. LOL

to be fair, a tank sorc is pretty difficult in pvp to kill

until you kill the clannfear. Once you kill the clannfear, they become very killable.

Still, the most unkillable thing i've ever seen, hands down, is pre-nerf mara's balm tankcros in Cyrodiil.

I will concede that the area where a sorc is probably strongest in PVP is a Zoo Sorc in a 1v1 situation, aka a dueling build. They can have good pressure and have 3-4 extra targets to worry about.

When I think troll tank, or unkillable, I am typically thinking about a character with 15 people pounding on them. Sorc defenses scale very badly with multiple attackers.

That said, I am guessing a EG sorc winning a dueling tournament is not a very common occurrence, now or ever.

WuffyCerulei

CGPsaint

Jamie_Aubrey wrote: »

Wait until you see me with 4-5 pets

2 main Sorc pets
Inferno Maw Monster Set
Mad Tinkerer Set
Atro Ulti

Welcome to my Zoo

You forgot to pair with Icy Conjuror for the Ice Wraith as well. I have the 5-piece on my back bar. I buff up, debuff the enemy to proc the Ice Wraith and then switch to front bar to proc Mad Tinkerer as well. Good times.

SickleCider

I came here hoping to learn about a set that'd make my sorc immortal.

Shoot.

Caligamy_ESO

NGL I looked at the posted date to see if this was a necro thread from 2018.

jecks33

I missed the "nerf sorcs" topics

Luede

Melzo wrote: »

The Engine Guardian set spawns a guard every ten seconds and when an enemy tries to hit you, it hits that guard. Most 99 percent of the players first kill the guardian and then start to beat the sorcerer but fail as the guardian reappears. And aiming at a sorcerer during a battle is almost impossible. I have seen undying sorcerers so many times just because of the presence of this set. You literally give the sorcerer an extra 10ka shield every 10 seconds. Of course, you can put this set on any class, but the sorcerer is the most mobile class and this set just works more efficiently on him.

This set shouldn't work like that. You literally can't help but beat the guard. So he still recovers very often.


Solution. Increase the cooldown of this set.Or make it so that this guard cannot be selected with the cursor.
The set gives a large resource recovery and a shield for 10ka health every 10 seconds. He should give one thing but even a 10k shield is too much for pvp. It does not decrease by 2 times due to the fact that this health is a guard. It gives more protection to the sorcerer than any other set.

i have a bold suggestion, use the set yourself and see if you become immortal, sorc benefit rather less than other classes from the set because the "beam" breaks at streak

Digiman

When a monster set is the only thing complained about Sorcs being OP then something tells me the class is dead in pvp

SammyKhajit

Sammy misread and thought the title was “Set that makes sorcerers immoral”. and clicked to investigate

Immortal. Okay, no worries! Carry on!

Jaraal

Luede wrote: »

Melzo wrote: »

The Engine Guardian set spawns a guard every ten seconds and when an enemy tries to hit you, it hits that guard. Most 99 percent of the players first kill the guardian and then start to beat the sorcerer but fail as the guardian reappears. And aiming at a sorcerer during a battle is almost impossible. I have seen undying sorcerers so many times just because of the presence of this set. You literally give the sorcerer an extra 10ka shield every 10 seconds. Of course, you can put this set on any class, but the sorcerer is the most mobile class and this set just works more efficiently on him.

This set shouldn't work like that. You literally can't help but beat the guard. So he still recovers very often.


Solution. Increase the cooldown of this set.Or make it so that this guard cannot be selected with the cursor.
The set gives a large resource recovery and a shield for 10ka health every 10 seconds. He should give one thing but even a 10k shield is too much for pvp. It does not decrease by 2 times due to the fact that this health is a guard. It gives more protection to the sorcerer than any other set.

i have a bold suggestion, use the set yourself and see if you become immortal, sorc benefit rather less than other classes from the set because the "beam" breaks at streak

This made me curious, as I've never tried this set on a sorc. So I logged in and put it on, and did some testing. And you are correct. You can't outsprint the automaton, but you can definitely outStreak it. And you do lose the buff effect. But it will catch up to you and reappear if you have stopped within the six second time limit, and it will reapply the buff for the remaining second or so.

WuffyCerulei

Digiman wrote: »

When a monster set is the only thing complained about Sorcs being OP then something tells me the class is dead in pvp

I swear people will find any reason to complain about sorcs having any slight ability to live in pvp.

Luede

Jaraal wrote: »

Luede wrote: »

Melzo wrote: »

The Engine Guardian set spawns a guard every ten seconds and when an enemy tries to hit you, it hits that guard. Most 99 percent of the players first kill the guardian and then start to beat the sorcerer but fail as the guardian reappears. And aiming at a sorcerer during a battle is almost impossible. I have seen undying sorcerers so many times just because of the presence of this set. You literally give the sorcerer an extra 10ka shield every 10 seconds. Of course, you can put this set on any class, but the sorcerer is the most mobile class and this set just works more efficiently on him.

This set shouldn't work like that. You literally can't help but beat the guard. So he still recovers very often.


Solution. Increase the cooldown of this set.Or make it so that this guard cannot be selected with the cursor.
The set gives a large resource recovery and a shield for 10ka health every 10 seconds. He should give one thing but even a 10k shield is too much for pvp. It does not decrease by 2 times due to the fact that this health is a guard. It gives more protection to the sorcerer than any other set.

i have a bold suggestion, use the set yourself and see if you become immortal, sorc benefit rather less than other classes from the set because the "beam" breaks at streak

This made me curious, as I've never tried this set on a sorc. So I logged in and put it on, and did some testing. And you are correct. You can't outsprint the automaton, but you can definitely outStreak it. And you do lose the buff effect. But it will catch up to you and reappear if you have stopped within the six second time limit, and it will reapply the buff for the remaining second or so.

i have been annoyed with this set so many times because i prefer a fast play style and the sorc is also very dependent on streak. in the end i have always used other sets even though engine guardien as such was a good set

Turtle_Bot

Digiman wrote: »

When a monster set is the only thing complained about Sorcs being OP then something tells me the class is dead in pvp

Funny that isn't it. The only time sorc got directly complained about in the past year has been in U34 where crystal weapon was overtuned (and it was) and even then, this wasn't heavily talked about until the bow + savage werewolf build became super common later on in the patch.

Turtle_Bot

Luede wrote: »

Melzo wrote: »

The Engine Guardian set spawns a guard every ten seconds and when an enemy tries to hit you, it hits that guard. Most 99 percent of the players first kill the guardian and then start to beat the sorcerer but fail as the guardian reappears. And aiming at a sorcerer during a battle is almost impossible. I have seen undying sorcerers so many times just because of the presence of this set. You literally give the sorcerer an extra 10ka shield every 10 seconds. Of course, you can put this set on any class, but the sorcerer is the most mobile class and this set just works more efficiently on him.

This set shouldn't work like that. You literally can't help but beat the guard. So he still recovers very often.


Solution. Increase the cooldown of this set.Or make it so that this guard cannot be selected with the cursor.
The set gives a large resource recovery and a shield for 10ka health every 10 seconds. He should give one thing but even a 10k shield is too much for pvp. It does not decrease by 2 times due to the fact that this health is a guard. It gives more protection to the sorcerer than any other set.

i have a bold suggestion, use the set yourself and see if you become immortal, sorc benefit rather less than other classes from the set because the "beam" breaks at streak

agreed, Chudan is a better option since it frees up a much-needed bar slot and grants major resolve all the time.

Turtle_Bot

Jaraal wrote: »

Luede wrote: »

Melzo wrote: »

The Engine Guardian set spawns a guard every ten seconds and when an enemy tries to hit you, it hits that guard. Most 99 percent of the players first kill the guardian and then start to beat the sorcerer but fail as the guardian reappears. And aiming at a sorcerer during a battle is almost impossible. I have seen undying sorcerers so many times just because of the presence of this set. You literally give the sorcerer an extra 10ka shield every 10 seconds. Of course, you can put this set on any class, but the sorcerer is the most mobile class and this set just works more efficiently on him.

This set shouldn't work like that. You literally can't help but beat the guard. So he still recovers very often.


Solution. Increase the cooldown of this set.Or make it so that this guard cannot be selected with the cursor.
The set gives a large resource recovery and a shield for 10ka health every 10 seconds. He should give one thing but even a 10k shield is too much for pvp. It does not decrease by 2 times due to the fact that this health is a guard. It gives more protection to the sorcerer than any other set.

i have a bold suggestion, use the set yourself and see if you become immortal, sorc benefit rather less than other classes from the set because the "beam" breaks at streak

This made me curious, as I've never tried this set on a sorc. So I logged in and put it on, and did some testing. And you are correct. You can't outsprint the automaton, but you can definitely outStreak it. And you do lose the buff effect. But it will catch up to you and reappear if you have stopped within the six second time limit, and it will reapply the buff for the remaining second or so.

yep, its really difficult to get that buff back too, especially when you're forced to streak more than once to get to cover or put enough distance to allow you to recover properly.

Jaimeh

You should see this set on a rollerblade, impossible to target