Would you like a trial finder?

DemonicGoat

Yes - for both vet/normal trials

Yes, But only if its as reliable as the Dungeon finder has been over the past 5 years.

Mesite

Yes - for both vet/normal trials

I have played for quite a while and only just started to do a few normal trials a few weeks ago. I thought they were for the elite players, but it turns out they are easy and I could have been playing them for years. A trial finder would have been ideal.

svendf

Yes - for both vet/normal trials

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"Why don't you just join a guild???"
1) People who say this are obviously not regularly playing endgame bc if you were you'd know that guild trial rosters often fill with non guildies and being in a guild doesn't guarantee you a spot in raid.

Guild trial rosters fill with non-guildies pretty much if they cannot get someone from the guild. So this is a non-issue most of the time when their are people looking to go into the raid.

Same with it not being guaranteed a spot in the raid. If there are enough to form a second group then that will likely happen. Those that show interest can be brought into the raid the next time.

Yes, that's the whole point of a finder: to fill when needed and on your own schedule when you can't make guild raid time or don't get a spot. It's a useful tool for those who want to use it. If you're averse for any reason, just don't use it. It will not affect you.

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You get out of this what you put into it which is why random GF groups for raids are often very bad which is why adding such a feature is bad for business.

What's your current experience with this? Sincere question bc I see this argument a lot, but in my experience, 7 out of 10 runs I lead are fine.

My experience is I run pug raids daily and I pull from guild, friends, Craglorn, and different zones. A trial finder or global chat across all instances of a specific zone would be super helpful for similar players.

edit to add: PC NA

Considering the experience in ESO random dungeon groups is worse than in other MMORPGs I have played it would be an even worse train wreck here and the reason why adding it would be one of the worse business decisions Zenimax has ever made. Case in point of the low-quality ESO player that can be found via GF, I have been in a dungeon group where we had a pug of high CP, melee stamina, that insisted they did not have an interrupt. Have fun in a random dungeon with a group like him.

Sounds like you haven't pugged any trials at all and just assuming its gonna be bad. I pug them all the time, for years, and I've NEVER seen any normal trial fail. There's few wipes sometimes in Cloudrest if people mess up portal or no one goes in but next try they get it done. Normals are just so easy that even if everyone only does 10k dps you will still clear. Most of the mechanics doesn't even happen on normal or when it does, it doesn't matter much. Trials are basically 12 man dungeons. You get normal dungeons done just fine via group finder can you?

@Kusto

This thread is about GF groups. Not pug groups. There is a fundamental difference between the two types of groups. The facts laid out in the first two paragraphs of my post made that clear.

What's the difference between a pug you've made yourself the current way (LFG in guild, zone, friends, Discord) and a pug formed with a trial finder that allows you to do that exact same thing but gives you access to more people?

I would suggest going back and reading my previous posts. Some of the comments I made do speak to what is different.

I will boil it down to the very basics just because I am nice. When I form a group I have some control over what the group looks like. When GF forms a group the group is completely random and if more likely to be lower-skilled and able players.

This fact is proven by how GF dungeon groups are often of lower quality than even zone pug groups I have been in. I will again repeat that I have come across, via the GF, a player of high CP on a melee character that was insistent they did not have an interrupt. Having an interrupt is the most basic ability in the game which demonstrates the player's competence.

Glad I could help.

And I suggest you read what I and others are actually saying bc you keep saying it's going to be like current dungeon finder

It will be worse. I have experienced raid GF groups in other games so I speak from real experience. It is just being hopeful to think it would be different.

In the end, you are entitled to your opinion just as I am and this is the most definitive and accurate statement in this entire thread.

Regards,

My main MMO atm you often find hardend raiders in there, so being frank if it´s your first time running the content is alway´s well received. It depends on the community. Going from ESO to this other MMO was a nice discovery and positive. As they/we say overthere "New player´s are the life light of the game". It´s the game, who to some degree forms the community for, what it is.

Creating a community, where you get rewarded for helping people as a player or mentor is a step in the right direction building a good helpfull community. There will alway´s be some bad apples, here and there - they are fare in between, and a question alway´s comes to mind "wonder how long that person stay". Not long.

In the early day´s I was againt a Trial/partyfinder, because I saw, what happen in groupfinder. The result we see today is ZOS´s responsibility. Today im positive, because I have seen it can work. For it to work they have to change things and maybe even add stuff to make it work - as in other Mmo´s.

I would not hold my breath for that change to come. Because too much have to change to make it work so the community can unite around it. But it´s not impossible.

FelisCatus

Yes - for both vet/normal trials

Seems like the majority of players want this in some form.