What is the worst 5 piece bonus? Winning suggestion gets 250k! (submissions close 9-3-2022 at 3pm)

Dr_Con

This is for PC/NA

I was deconstructing things and was inspired by seeing this



fully upgraded it looks like this:



Now you may or may not agree that this is a bad set, more underpowered sets come to mind off the top of my head, but that will be left to a vote!

Remember, when picking out the "worst set," keep in mind some sets aren't meant for combat but can be helpful for farming and may not be considered "bad" to everyone when it comes to voting.

The winner will receive 250k gold!*

I'll try to do something like this every week, maybe make something of it and we can have a Hall of Fame (or Wall of Weak) for set bonuses that appear lackluster. Maybe people can prove us wrong in these topics by posting how these sets can be viable!

IF you do not have a forum account, but still wish to participate and have an in-game account, you may mail your submissions/ideas to me at @Dr_Con on PC/NA and I will post the mail on your behalf for people with active forum accounts to vote. No forum account = no vote.

If there's simply too many submissions to allow for technical or voting reasons I will have to confer with an expert panel** on which ones to exclude for this week.

Be creative and dig deep! There's many sets out there that people feel have been neglected, this is your chance to showcase those sets!

(If someone could reach out and teach me how to create votes that'll help for the voting topic if I need to create a new one!)

IMPORTANT: Since I'm writing this on a Friday, I'll do votes tomorrow mid-afternoon EST. Submissions close at 3 PM EST this Saturday (Sept. 3 2022). That leaves less than 16 hours to submit your choice from me posting this! Voting (but not discussion!) will close this Sunday at 11:59 PM EST at the earliest or some time after when I take stock of the votes, whichever is soonest.

I may do a series for monster helm sets in the future, however the pool for these is much smaller at I believe around 126 (so it may be bi-weekly).

Additionally, I may do a monthly one for Mythics, we'll see!

Rules:

1. To enter you need only post a screenshot or a link to the set from eso-sets.com or eso-hub.com (I am not requiring others to go to external websites, but I leave it here as an option for those who decide to use links rather than the easy to use screenshot feature) or mail me in-game your idea and I will post your idea on your behalf.
2. 1 submission per person per week
3. The first person to post the set gets credit for posting it, if you mail me in-game with your submission but someone posted it first, I have to go with the person who posted it on the forum first.
4. Each post should either be in support or disapproval for either the topic or another submission (but do not target the users please!)
5. If you want to add to the prize pool you may do so at your own volition
6. The winning person must designate a recipient (with the @) for the prize money, which will be in gold. It does not have to be your own account
7. You can ask friends to vote for your idea in the following topic, but in the spirit of the purpose of this topic I encourage all people to vote based on the best choice of what they think the worst set is as of that moment so they can be featured in the topic where I start to track all the winners from each week.

*(please note this is not sponsored by Zenimax and the reward money will come from me, @Dr_Con)
**the panel, if needed, will consist of a diverse selection of individuals who I consider expert PVE and PVP players from one of the guilds I am in

I will try to update/edit this as little as possible, but if needed I'll post an update log here at the bottom
edit 1: minor typos

Bigmatt2

RebornV3x

so you have to die then be resurrected in order to gain the buff for this set then the buff only lasts for 10 seconds probably the worst crafted set in the game

FluffWit

The old Adept Rider was hilariously bad.

Right now Spelunker sounds pretty terrible...

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Spelunker+Set

Faulgor

Technically, that might be Druid's Braid, because its 5 piece only adds 1565 Maximum Magicka.

https://eso-sets.com/set/druids-braid

Not really a fair comparison, tho. And Storm Master is actually pretty good for Heavy Attack builds now.

MidniteOwl1913

So many sets, so little time...

Artim_X

Vampire Lord

(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Magicka
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance
(5 items) Depends on your stages, this set applies following bonus:

Stage 1/2/3/4
Flame Damage Taken 1/2/4/6%
Regular Ability Cost Increase: 1/2/4/6%
Vampire Ability Cost Decrease 5/10/15/20%


Before the revamp, this set was straight blessing of increased vamp damage and cost reduction... ZOS decided that the revamp should also affect this set even though most weren't even using it. Now it doesn't even buff vamp damage like it used to, makes you take even more fire damage, increases cost of regular skills, and the only boon is reduced cost on vampire skills. You'd have to be a masochist to run this set.

Redguards_Revenge

Steadfast Hero

Steadfast Hero
LEVEL 50 - CP 160
ESO-Hub.com
Type PvP
ArmorSet bonus
(2 items) Adds 1487 Armor
(3 items) Adds 1487 Armor
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) When you cleanse a negative effect from yourself or an ally, gain Major Protection for 10 seconds, reducing your damage taken by 10%. This effect can occur once every 12 seconds.

notyuu

rauyran

Storm Master is a reasonable set for a lightning staff heavy attack with empower from oakensoul.

Jaraal

Radiant Bastion, by far. Gets halved twice in PvP, once as incoming damage and once as outgoing damage, as well as mitigated by resistances, skills, and sets. And I can't think of any reason to wear it in PvE, either.


2 items: Adds 28-1206 Maximum Health
3 items: Adds 3-129 Weapon and Spell Damage
4 items: Adds 28-1206 Maximum Health
5 items: Deal 10% of all direct damage done to you back to the attacker, up to 4250 damage.

It's nice that they capped it at 4250, because that means when someone with 42,500 HP gets one shot, the attacker takes a (resistance reduced) pool noodle to the knee.

Jim_Pipp

This is awesome. I spent far too long comparing stuff!

I submit for the judges disapprovals;


Eyes of Mara
https://eso-sets.com/set/eyes-of-mara
(2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
(5 items) Reduces the cost of your Restoration Staff abilities by 15%.

If you wanted all restoration staff abilities you would be better using cost reduction glyphs and the lightspeaker set for +600 dmg to resto abilities.

In the more likely example you need a craftable sustain set then armor of seducer gives 10% reduction off ALL Magicka skills.

dmnqwk

I think Beekeeper has to win.

Imagine you wanna stack health for a bit of fun...
2 set: 1206 health (nice)
3 set: 1206 health (oooh more nice)
4 set: 1206 health (even nicer!)
5 set: 900 health recovery aka 450 health per second back (WTF!!!!!!)

This has to be the worst because the rest of the set has a good use... then you get... THIS debacle!

Xarc

I mean, there's so many ways to have this bonus, for what reason would you CRAFT this set in full 5 pieces ?

Gargath

These academic deliberations make no sense to me.
Armor set considered as useless to someone can be very much useful to someone else.
And keep your cheap prize, 250k gold is too low to even make me start thinking .

Xarc

@gargath when you say "armor set" if you're talking about adept rider, we here are talking about 5 pieces bonus, not the full set...

TaCoSlurpY

That Storm Master set was actually part of a magdk pvp 1 shot build before update. Nerfed.

Gargath

Xarc wrote: »

I mean, there's so many ways to have this bonus, for what reason would you CRAFT this set in full 5 pieces ?

Great set for me. Makes character in pve extremely fast passively all the time. No need for mount.
Has it my full-CP character for quickly gathering mats.
Also perfect for new characters when they have to level since 1 without champion points, useful skills, lack of skill point and no horse skills trained.

kevkj

So far the worst I see are Vampire Lord and Vastarie's Tutelage. Lots of submissions with pathetic 5-piece bonuses but these two stand out as truly terrible due to the drawbacks. Playing around said bonuses arguably makes your gameplay worse. The other submissions so far are just inconsequential bonuses.

RealLoveBVB

Definitely this: https://eso-sets.com/set/toothrow

You are always better off with slotting camo hunter/inner light or just have potions with the crit.

mocap

By far worst possible set. This set is absolutely impossible to control in any real situation.

Dawnblade

Xarc wrote: »

I mean, there's so many ways to have this bonus, for what reason would you CRAFT this set in full 5 pieces ?

Useful for a level 1 starter set in training trait, otherwise useless with Continuous Attack available for free at 10.

MafiaCat115

Gargath wrote: »

Xarc wrote: »

I mean, there's so many ways to have this bonus, for what reason would you CRAFT this set in full 5 pieces ?

Great set for me. Makes character in pve extremely fast passively all the time. No need for mount.
Has it my full-CP character for quickly gathering mats.
Also perfect for new characters when they have to level since 1 without champion points, useful skills, lack of skill point and no horse skills trained.

So much of this. This is one of my favorite sets for new characters, along with harvesting characters. Not having to always be using a skill to apply Major Expedition is such an upside, especially if you are using it to make a speedy stealth character. The Major Gallop, though, is really only good until you get up to level 10 and get the PvP passive for it.

Drammanoth

1) Vampire Lord
2) Vastarie's Tutelage
3) Nikulas' Heavy Armor
3) every set that has "when you block, you get a stack of X for 5 seconds, after getting Y stacks, Z happens". This could be prolonged to 30 seconds OR, even better, stacks could be permanent, especially when blocking.

Senchal Defender is in this regard a similar, and a decent idea - LA grants 1 permanent stack, 10 max. After HA you restore magicka and stamina -

chessalavakia_ESO

https://eso-sets.com/set/meridias-blessed-armor

The set doesn't do what it says on the label.

If I recall correctly, it makes it so a single non-boss target can't hit you.

My impression is the only use for the set is when you want to cause annoyance in PvP, occasional fights where an npc that does boss level damage isn't considered a boss, and for making negative comments about Meridia.

EF321

Just send me the money

sPark101

Any set that try's to help me after I've been critically hit is barking up the wrong tree.

ToRelax

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

This is awesome. I spent far too long comparing stuff!

I submit for the judges disapprovals;


Eyes of Mara
https://eso-sets.com/set/eyes-of-mara
(2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
(5 items) Reduces the cost of your Restoration Staff abilities by 15%.

If you wanted all restoration staff abilities you would be better using cost reduction glyphs and the lightspeaker set for +600 dmg to resto abilities.

In the more likely example you need a craftable sustain set then armor of seducer gives 10% reduction off ALL Magicka skills.

Eyes of Mara is for backbar resto ult with extra sustain on heals.

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

https://eso-sets.com/set/meridias-blessed-armor

The set doesn't do what it says on the label.

If I recall correctly, it makes it so a single non-boss target can't hit you.

My impression is the only use for the set is when you want to cause annoyance in PvP, occasional fights where an npc that does boss level damage isn't considered a boss, and for making negative comments about Meridia.

Powerful enough to frequently get banned for dueling events.

Kite42

Nothing in the OP precludes sets which have since been changed, so I'm going with a golden oldie:

dmnqwk

Dawnblade wrote: »

Xarc wrote: »

I mean, there's so many ways to have this bonus, for what reason would you CRAFT this set in full 5 pieces ?

Useful for a level 1 starter set in training trait, otherwise useless with Continuous Attack available for free at 10.

Still incorrect here sorry.

Adept Rider is the greatest levelling set to wear - the sheer fact you can level up in a dungeon if you wish and zerg forward without worrying you can't keep up (or sprinting and running out of stamina) is enough, but also consider the speed boost while questing in a delve if you wish, or just overland between mounting etc.

Major Expedition 24/7 is a godsend when levelling, the Gallop (if you haven't got the pvp rank) is a cherry on top.

N00BxV1

Ranger's Gait
(2 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(3 items) Adds 657 Critical Chance
(4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
(5 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery, Reduce the effectiveness of snares applied to you by 50%.

https://eso-sets.com/set/rangers-gait