Should One Handed & Shield get the same Resto Staff treatment?

CaptainVenom

I mean, a bit less HA damage and a bit more Stamina restored. Feels to me this would be interesting for tanks when they can heavy attack and would make their lives a little easier, I guess.

ToRelax

1h/s still has it's passive defensive advantages while having weaker offense than other melee weapons. Tanks still use it, do they not?

Necrotech_Master

i think one of the 1h/shield passives already increases the resource restore from heavy attacks lol

Astin_nds

CaptainVenom wrote: »

I mean, a bit less HA damage and a bit more Stamina restored. Feels to me this would be interesting for tanks when they can heavy attack and would make their lives a little easier, I guess.

Only see that ;

VS

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This is totally unbalanced but , now Vigor heal x2 mora than all of restoration staffs , you can go easy every class stamina and BROKE literal the game , use class skill for major resolve , use resolving vigor (X2 more heal than resto staffs) and got now minor resolve... ultra necesary yeah... extreme unbalance change , you got sword and shield , got major and minor resolve and more heal than the HEALERS xD...
StaminaCroll online , if you like more info of that i hav a threat here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/614506/magickas-we-have-a-big-problem-magickas-healers-too-where-is-the-balance/p1

Restoration staff now is out of PVP and pve , is good for make a campfire..... Very unbalanced.

Necrotech_Master

Astin_nds wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

I mean, a bit less HA damage and a bit more Stamina restored. Feels to me this would be interesting for tanks when they can heavy attack and would make their lives a little easier, I guess.

Only see that ;

VS

---

This is totally unbalanced but , now Vigor heal x2 mora than all of restoration staffs , you can go easy every class stamina and BROKE literal the game , use class skill for major resolve , use resolving vigor (X2 more heal than resto staffs) and got now minor resolve... ultra necesary yeah... extreme unbalance change , you got sword and shield , got major and minor resolve and more heal than the HEALERS xD...
StaminaCroll online , if you like more info of that i hav a threat here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/614506/magickas-we-have-a-big-problem-magickas-healers-too-where-is-the-balance/p1

Restoration staff now is out of PVP and pve , is good for make a campfire..... Very unbalanced.

what does this have to do with the OP topic?

the topic was about 1h/shield getting more resource restore from heavy attacks (like the planned change for resto), has nothing to do with healing

Astin_nds

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Astin_nds wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

I mean, a bit less HA damage and a bit more Stamina restored. Feels to me this would be interesting for tanks when they can heavy attack and would make their lives a little easier, I guess.

Only see that ;

VS

---

This is totally unbalanced but , now Vigor heal x2 mora than all of restoration staffs , you can go easy every class stamina and BROKE literal the game , use class skill for major resolve , use resolving vigor (X2 more heal than resto staffs) and got now minor resolve... ultra necesary yeah... extreme unbalance change , you got sword and shield , got major and minor resolve and more heal than the HEALERS xD...
StaminaCroll online , if you like more info of that i hav a threat here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/614506/magickas-we-have-a-big-problem-magickas-healers-too-where-is-the-balance/p1

Restoration staff now is out of PVP and pve , is good for make a campfire..... Very unbalanced.

what does this have to do with the OP topic?

the topic was about 1h/shield getting more resource restore from heavy attacks (like the planned change for resto), has nothing to do with healing

The issue that I raised is that you don't need it because sword and shield doing that is more than broken END

Necrotech_Master

Astin_nds wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Astin_nds wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

I mean, a bit less HA damage and a bit more Stamina restored. Feels to me this would be interesting for tanks when they can heavy attack and would make their lives a little easier, I guess.

Only see that ;

VS

---

This is totally unbalanced but , now Vigor heal x2 mora than all of restoration staffs , you can go easy every class stamina and BROKE literal the game , use class skill for major resolve , use resolving vigor (X2 more heal than resto staffs) and got now minor resolve... ultra necesary yeah... extreme unbalance change , you got sword and shield , got major and minor resolve and more heal than the HEALERS xD...
StaminaCroll online , if you like more info of that i hav a threat here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/614506/magickas-we-have-a-big-problem-magickas-healers-too-where-is-the-balance/p1

Restoration staff now is out of PVP and pve , is good for make a campfire..... Very unbalanced.

what does this have to do with the OP topic?

the topic was about 1h/shield getting more resource restore from heavy attacks (like the planned change for resto), has nothing to do with healing

The issue that I raised is that you don't need it because sword and shield doing that is more than broken END

how? 1h/shield cant heal people

edit: and no, not responding further because its derailing the thread

Astin_nds

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Astin_nds wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Astin_nds wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

I mean, a bit less HA damage and a bit more Stamina restored. Feels to me this would be interesting for tanks when they can heavy attack and would make their lives a little easier, I guess.

Only see that ;

VS

---

This is totally unbalanced but , now Vigor heal x2 mora than all of restoration staffs , you can go easy every class stamina and BROKE literal the game , use class skill for major resolve , use resolving vigor (X2 more heal than resto staffs) and got now minor resolve... ultra necesary yeah... extreme unbalance change , you got sword and shield , got major and minor resolve and more heal than the HEALERS xD...
StaminaCroll online , if you like more info of that i hav a threat here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/614506/magickas-we-have-a-big-problem-magickas-healers-too-where-is-the-balance/p1

Restoration staff now is out of PVP and pve , is good for make a campfire..... Very unbalanced.

what does this have to do with the OP topic?

the topic was about 1h/shield getting more resource restore from heavy attacks (like the planned change for resto), has nothing to do with healing

The issue that I raised is that you don't need it because sword and shield doing that is more than broken END

how? 1h/shield cant heal people

edit: and no, not responding further because its derailing the thread

I just told you that it is very broken with that, the more you put on it, the more broken it is, wait for things to change and then ask. I don't answer anymore because I don't understand the purpose of the thread

IAmIcehouse

Astin_nds wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

I mean, a bit less HA damage and a bit more Stamina restored. Feels to me this would be interesting for tanks when they can heavy attack and would make their lives a little easier, I guess.

Only see that ;

VS

---

This is totally unbalanced but , now Vigor heal x2 mora than all of restoration staffs , you can go easy every class stamina and BROKE literal the game , use class skill for major resolve , use resolving vigor (X2 more heal than resto staffs) and got now minor resolve... ultra necesary yeah... extreme unbalance change , you got sword and shield , got major and minor resolve and more heal than the HEALERS xD...
StaminaCroll online , if you like more info of that i hav a threat here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/614506/magickas-we-have-a-big-problem-magickas-healers-too-where-is-the-balance/p1

Restoration staff now is out of PVP and pve , is good for make a campfire..... Very unbalanced.

Restoration staff is still BIS for healers. Restoration staff is for healers not DDs. Why would something you can cast on other people as well as yourself be as strong as something you can only cast on yourself? Why do you post this on every irrelevant thread. You cannot compare these two skills, they function entirely differently from one another.

CaptainVenom

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

i think one of the 1h/shield passives already increases the resource restore from heavy attacks lol

If I recall right, there are no resource increase passive on One Handed & Shield, but Restoration Staves have Cycle of Life which increases magicka restored by 30%, yet they increased it a bit more.

GreatGildersleeve

You can tell there’s too many healers and not enough tanks in the game when a thread about tank gear gets derailed by complaints about healing. SMH.

1h&s does not have resource return buffs. There are several block cost reduction and damage mitigation buffs but no resource return.

Signed: a retired end game tank

Ps. While resources aren’t ‘that’ much of an issue anymore now that we have ice staff mag blocking, OP’s idea would indeed be welcomed I’m sure. At least by this former tank.

Astin_nds

IAmIcehouse wrote: »

Astin_nds wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

I mean, a bit less HA damage and a bit more Stamina restored. Feels to me this would be interesting for tanks when they can heavy attack and would make their lives a little easier, I guess.

Only see that ;

VS

---

This is totally unbalanced but , now Vigor heal x2 mora than all of restoration staffs , you can go easy every class stamina and BROKE literal the game , use class skill for major resolve , use resolving vigor (X2 more heal than resto staffs) and got now minor resolve... ultra necesary yeah... extreme unbalance change , you got sword and shield , got major and minor resolve and more heal than the HEALERS xD...
StaminaCroll online , if you like more info of that i hav a threat here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/614506/magickas-we-have-a-big-problem-magickas-healers-too-where-is-the-balance/p1

Restoration staff now is out of PVP and pve , is good for make a campfire..... Very unbalanced.

Restoration staff is still BIS for healers. Restoration staff is for healers not DDs. Why would something you can cast on other people as well as yourself be as strong as something you can only cast on yourself? Why do you post this on every irrelevant thread. You cannot compare these two skills, they function entirely differently from one another.

For you , but no for all , ON live server are equal skills , But noramly 70% of pvps use vigor . [snip]
But one thing is for sure if they don't balance simple things do you think they will give something to sword and shield? I think not 99% but hopefully I'm wrong and everything is joy

[edited for bait]

Beffagorn

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

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what does this have to do with the OP topic?

the topic was about 1h/shield getting more resource restore from heavy attacks (like the planned change for resto), has nothing to do with healing

He's been spamming that same exact message and trying to derail every single thread. Just report him and move on, no point in feeding the clown

Necrotech_Master

CaptainVenom wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

i think one of the 1h/shield passives already increases the resource restore from heavy attacks lol

If I recall right, there are no resource increase passive on One Handed & Shield, but Restoration Staves have Cycle of Life which increases magicka restored by 30%, yet they increased it a bit more.

your right, i was thinking about the "revitalize" passive from heavy armor (4% increase in heavy attack resource restore for each pc of heavy armor)

heavy armor is mostly paired with 1h/shield lol

IAmIcehouse

Astin_nds wrote: »

IAmIcehouse wrote: »

Astin_nds wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

I mean, a bit less HA damage and a bit more Stamina restored. Feels to me this would be interesting for tanks when they can heavy attack and would make their lives a little easier, I guess.

Only see that ;

VS

---

This is totally unbalanced but , now Vigor heal x2 mora than all of restoration staffs , you can go easy every class stamina and BROKE literal the game , use class skill for major resolve , use resolving vigor (X2 more heal than resto staffs) and got now minor resolve... ultra necesary yeah... extreme unbalance change , you got sword and shield , got major and minor resolve and more heal than the HEALERS xD...
StaminaCroll online , if you like more info of that i hav a threat here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/614506/magickas-we-have-a-big-problem-magickas-healers-too-where-is-the-balance/p1

Restoration staff now is out of PVP and pve , is good for make a campfire..... Very unbalanced.

Restoration staff is still BIS for healers. Restoration staff is for healers not DDs. Why would something you can cast on other people as well as yourself be as strong as something you can only cast on yourself? Why do you post this on every irrelevant thread. You cannot compare these two skills, they function entirely differently from one another.

For you , but no for all , ON live server are equal skills , But noramly 70% of pvps use vigor . [snip]
But one thing is for sure if they don't balance simple things do you think they will give something to sword and shield? I think not 99% but hopefully I'm wrong and everything is joy

[edited for bait]

Do you think everything on Live is balanced? No. Absolutely not, and it's way overdue that cross healing hots are getting nerfed. This is an extremely welcomed change.

Again, Resolving Vigor solves a different build case than Regen. You run resolving vigor if you want to heal yourself. You echoing vigor or resto skills to heal others. Note that every resto skill is about healing targets, not just yourself. Stop trying to equate the two.

Astin_nds

IAmIcehouse wrote: »

Astin_nds wrote: »

IAmIcehouse wrote: »

Astin_nds wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

I mean, a bit less HA damage and a bit more Stamina restored. Feels to me this would be interesting for tanks when they can heavy attack and would make their lives a little easier, I guess.

Only see that ;

VS

---

This is totally unbalanced but , now Vigor heal x2 mora than all of restoration staffs , you can go easy every class stamina and BROKE literal the game , use class skill for major resolve , use resolving vigor (X2 more heal than resto staffs) and got now minor resolve... ultra necesary yeah... extreme unbalance change , you got sword and shield , got major and minor resolve and more heal than the HEALERS xD...
StaminaCroll online , if you like more info of that i hav a threat here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/614506/magickas-we-have-a-big-problem-magickas-healers-too-where-is-the-balance/p1

Restoration staff now is out of PVP and pve , is good for make a campfire..... Very unbalanced.

Restoration staff is still BIS for healers. Restoration staff is for healers not DDs. Why would something you can cast on other people as well as yourself be as strong as something you can only cast on yourself? Why do you post this on every irrelevant thread. You cannot compare these two skills, they function entirely differently from one another.

For you , but no for all , ON live server are equal skills , But noramly 70% of pvps use vigor . [snip]
But one thing is for sure if they don't balance simple things do you think they will give something to sword and shield? I think not 99% but hopefully I'm wrong and everything is joy

[edited for bait]

Do you think everything on Live is balanced? No. Absolutely not, and it's way overdue that cross healing hots are getting nerfed. This is an extremely welcomed change.

Again, Resolving Vigor solves a different build case than Regen. You run resolving vigor if you want to heal yourself. You echoing vigor or resto skills to heal others. Note that every resto skill is about healing targets, not just yourself. Stop trying to equate the two.

You look familiar to me... yeah, you're always right, okay then...

and this skils are equal i can say this to you if you like 300 times but i dont like repeat the same thing to you again.. cya !

Iron_Warrior

Astin_nds wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

I mean, a bit less HA damage and a bit more Stamina restored. Feels to me this would be interesting for tanks when they can heavy attack and would make their lives a little easier, I guess.

Only see that ;

VS

---

This is totally unbalanced but , now Vigor heal x2 mora than all of restoration staffs , you can go easy every class stamina and BROKE literal the game , use class skill for major resolve , use resolving vigor (X2 more heal than resto staffs) and got now minor resolve... ultra necesary yeah... extreme unbalance change , you got sword and shield , got major and minor resolve and more heal than the HEALERS xD...
StaminaCroll online , if you like more info of that i hav a threat here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/614506/magickas-we-have-a-big-problem-magickas-healers-too-where-is-the-balance/p1

Restoration staff now is out of PVP and pve , is good for make a campfire..... Very unbalanced.