Bring Back Major Berserk on Oakensoul (and fix Empower)

Runkorko

xaraan wrote: »

I still think they should just left it OP and made it not work in PvP or Vet content, then it can be a solo carry ring for help completing content and not something that is just a magical equalizer for everyone to be able to complete the harder stuff in the game that should be gatekept. .

Solo content is already walk in the park m8

StarOfElyon

merpins wrote: »

So after the recent adjustment to Oakensoul, it's feeling a bit closer to where it should be. Adding minor slayer and minor aegis is great! Aegis puts the survivability back to where it was. But we still lose about 20% of the DPS we had from the live version. I think Major Slayer would be a better addition here, and put it at a 10% nerf as compared to live, but considering group buffs that grant major Slayer and Major Courage, I think this might not be the step forward I thought it was.

However there is one buff that would be a bit better here, and it's one that was removed; Major Berserk. I don't think adding Major Berserk back to the ring will hurt pvp, as it was the Heroism and the Force that was making the ring super strong there. But Major Berserk isn't a group buff, and unless you use specific armor sets, you probably don't have access to it. Minor Berserk IS a common group buff. I think changing this back to Major will bump the ring up to where it should be in PVE.

Also, fix Empower on the ring. We can't test it unless that's fixed. As in it doesn't work. Empower isn't being granted by the ring despite it being on the tooltip.

TLDR on my opinion on Empower (not explained fully in this thread), I think it incentivizes players to use the ring only for heavy attack builds and I don't think that's good when it comes to an item that should help you learn game mechanics, and it makes you need to learn medium attack weaving which is harder than LA weaving. I don't think it should be removed from the ring, but I do think the 40% LA damage should be added back to Empower.

Here's a link to my other forum post about Oakensoul, which goes over math, as well as potential solutions. I'm not going to edit it despite thinking Major Berserk is the best choice here, since I think all the content is relevant and any option would work, but Major Berserk would be the better choice overall due to the reasons listed above.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/613685/oakensoul-is-still-a-20-nerf/p1

Add major berserk back only on the condition that it doesn't allow the wearer to critically strike.

StarOfElyon

Klingenlied wrote: »

For me it is simple. PvP is important. As is PvE. Thus: neither should break the other. If you add in buffs for the ring, make them PvE only. I think the ring, even after the nerfs, will be in a spot where it will be used frequently in PvE and PvP environments still. It's just that people that manage do solidly play with 2 bars and get a decent uptime on their buffs and dots will perform better doing so - and that's just right. The more difficult the stuff I play, the higher the possible reward.

If anything they can just add major slayer to keep both pvp and pve sides happy. This ring is absolutely toxic in PvP right now.

olsborg

EF321 wrote: »

merpins wrote: »

I don't think adding Major Berserk back to the ring will hurt pvp

I stopped reading here.

I saw your post and didnt read the OP's post, but yea...oakensoul has been ruining pvp for too long, get rid of it for arkays sake.