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Shaming Console Users Should Be Stopped.
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Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You do realize this game came out on PC first, right? The limited skillbar spaces have absolutely nothing to do with console UI limitations and I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that the UI was made for platforms that weren't added until like a year after launch. The limited space on our bars was intended to be a design option from the beginning, not because of UI limitations but because of gameplay.
Came out on PC first doesn't mean developed specifically for PC.
It was a UI limitation decision because of consoles, and the game is balanced around it.2 -
FelisCatus✭✭✭✭✭Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Regularly I'm seeing last gen console users get blamed for holding the game back. This game is still going largely due to those said console users. I think the community should slack up on the negativity projected. No one likes logging into the forums and seeing thread after thread about how they are the sole reason that the game can't progress. And yes, I'm one of those console users. It's not like consoles are exactly easy to purchase right now, at least at a reasonable price. On top of that, the economy I'm part of isn't in a "ideal" place for me to shell out even the base price of new console. I bought this game on my current console, I see no reason I should feel bad about playing the game on said console.
Game dev's literally said in another interview (not the one quoted) that Console are the reason that housing item limit can't be increased and that it would be unfair to increase for PC and not console.
As we all know. Housing is endgame. So console is limiting PC's endgame experience
p.s. buy a PC instead of next gen you'll have a way better ESO experience and servers which don't lag so much (if you play on NA).
The answer for me is not as simple as, just buy a new PC. I enjoy console and prefer it over PC. I started ESO on PC and chose to switch. Servers are running fine for me on console. 😎
Buy a PC and use a controller? It would be the same if not way better than a console.0 -
Geldauran✭✭✭FelisCatus wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Regularly I'm seeing last gen console users get blamed for holding the game back. This game is still going largely due to those said console users. I think the community should slack up on the negativity projected. No one likes logging into the forums and seeing thread after thread about how they are the sole reason that the game can't progress. And yes, I'm one of those console users. It's not like consoles are exactly easy to purchase right now, at least at a reasonable price. On top of that, the economy I'm part of isn't in a "ideal" place for me to shell out even the base price of new console. I bought this game on my current console, I see no reason I should feel bad about playing the game on said console.
Game dev's literally said in another interview (not the one quoted) that Console are the reason that housing item limit can't be increased and that it would be unfair to increase for PC and not console.
As we all know. Housing is endgame. So console is limiting PC's endgame experience
p.s. buy a PC instead of next gen you'll have a way better ESO experience and servers which don't lag so much (if you play on NA).
The answer for me is not as simple as, just buy a new PC. I enjoy console and prefer it over PC. I started ESO on PC and chose to switch. Servers are running fine for me on console. 😎
Buy a PC and use a controller? It would be the same if not way better than a console.
Except you can't transfer your account to PC and vice-versa and they also don't have any plans doing that too.
I'm not going to start from scratch, repurchase DLCs and lose whatever cosmetics I had because ESO love their FOMO model in their store. I'm going to play a different game instead.1 -
FelisCatus✭✭✭✭✭FelisCatus wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Regularly I'm seeing last gen console users get blamed for holding the game back. This game is still going largely due to those said console users. I think the community should slack up on the negativity projected. No one likes logging into the forums and seeing thread after thread about how they are the sole reason that the game can't progress. And yes, I'm one of those console users. It's not like consoles are exactly easy to purchase right now, at least at a reasonable price. On top of that, the economy I'm part of isn't in a "ideal" place for me to shell out even the base price of new console. I bought this game on my current console, I see no reason I should feel bad about playing the game on said console.
Game dev's literally said in another interview (not the one quoted) that Console are the reason that housing item limit can't be increased and that it would be unfair to increase for PC and not console.
As we all know. Housing is endgame. So console is limiting PC's endgame experience
p.s. buy a PC instead of next gen you'll have a way better ESO experience and servers which don't lag so much (if you play on NA).
The answer for me is not as simple as, just buy a new PC. I enjoy console and prefer it over PC. I started ESO on PC and chose to switch. Servers are running fine for me on console. 😎
Buy a PC and use a controller? It would be the same if not way better than a console.
Except you can't transfer your account to PC and vice-versa and they also don't have any plans doing that too.
I'm not going to start from scratch, repurchase DLCs and lose whatever cosmetics I had because ESO love their FOMO model in their store. I'm going to play a different game instead.
I agree and that's all down on ZOS but even on the same platform you can't migrate to a different mega server this is also a problem. Yet it still remains.0 -
Dragkiris✭✭✭PS5 and the new xbox release over a year and half ago. They should support the PS4 and old xbox for another year or so (make the next xpac the last) then sunset them going forward.0
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✭✭✭✭✭Regularly I'm seeing last gen console users get blamed for holding the game back. This game is still going largely due to those said console users. I think the community should slack up on the negativity projected. No one likes logging into the forums and seeing thread after thread about how they are the sole reason that the game can't progress. And yes, I'm one of those console users. It's not like consoles are exactly easy to purchase right now, at least at a reasonable price. On top of that, the economy I'm part of isn't in a "ideal" place for me to shell out even the base price of new console. I bought this game on my current console, I see no reason I should feel bad about playing the game on said console.
Well, you are right. It's not the console players fault for not being able to get a new console, between availability and of course cost that can be invovled.
But it is the reason the game can't progress passed a certain stage of development.
That's not a reason to blame the players themselves and I don't really see anyone doing so (but not like I see every thread, so if it happens, then you are right, they should chill)-- @xaraan --
nightblade: Xaraan • templar: Xaraan-dar • dragon-knight: Xaraanosaurus • necromancer: Xaraan-qa • warden: Xaraanodon • sorcerer: Xaraan-ra
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✭✭✭✭✭[But it is the reason the game can't progress passed a certain stage of development.
The developers can't add in anything to the game that would impact PVP, due to failing hardware and problems with the base code. Those have to be fixed before any major updates can occur. This is the main thing holding things back, console is secondary concern and only limits scope.4 -
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✭✭FelisCatus wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Regularly I'm seeing last gen console users get blamed for holding the game back. This game is still going largely due to those said console users. I think the community should slack up on the negativity projected. No one likes logging into the forums and seeing thread after thread about how they are the sole reason that the game can't progress. And yes, I'm one of those console users. It's not like consoles are exactly easy to purchase right now, at least at a reasonable price. On top of that, the economy I'm part of isn't in a "ideal" place for me to shell out even the base price of new console. I bought this game on my current console, I see no reason I should feel bad about playing the game on said console.
Game dev's literally said in another interview (not the one quoted) that Console are the reason that housing item limit can't be increased and that it would be unfair to increase for PC and not console.
As we all know. Housing is endgame. So console is limiting PC's endgame experience
p.s. buy a PC instead of next gen you'll have a way better ESO experience and servers which don't lag so much (if you play on NA).
The answer for me is not as simple as, just buy a new PC. I enjoy console and prefer it over PC. I started ESO on PC and chose to switch. Servers are running fine for me on console. 😎
Buy a PC and use a controller? It would be the same if not way better than a console.
Or not wast hundreds of dollars for a pc to play one game
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✭It's not shaming console users to point out the fact that the game has to be dumbed down to a certain degree to cater to console users. It's just pointing out an undeniable fact that has been confirmed by the company. ESO was designed to be played on PC where equipment shortcomings have never been a consideration.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »FelisCatus wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Regularly I'm seeing last gen console users get blamed for holding the game back. This game is still going largely due to those said console users. I think the community should slack up on the negativity projected. No one likes logging into the forums and seeing thread after thread about how they are the sole reason that the game can't progress. And yes, I'm one of those console users. It's not like consoles are exactly easy to purchase right now, at least at a reasonable price. On top of that, the economy I'm part of isn't in a "ideal" place for me to shell out even the base price of new console. I bought this game on my current console, I see no reason I should feel bad about playing the game on said console.
Game dev's literally said in another interview (not the one quoted) that Console are the reason that housing item limit can't be increased and that it would be unfair to increase for PC and not console.
As we all know. Housing is endgame. So console is limiting PC's endgame experience
p.s. buy a PC instead of next gen you'll have a way better ESO experience and servers which don't lag so much (if you play on NA).
The answer for me is not as simple as, just buy a new PC. I enjoy console and prefer it over PC. I started ESO on PC and chose to switch. Servers are running fine for me on console. 😎
Buy a PC and use a controller? It would be the same if not way better than a console.
Or not wast hundreds of dollars for a pc to play one game
Pc player need to realise that lots of console player have no interest of ever playing games on pc
Or play things other than ESO after the PTS build goes live?
Like, yeah, I get the argument against a PC, and if you're buying one to play a single game, that doesn't make sense. It's not, strictly, a gaming platform, and there is a lot you can do with a decent rig. More than with a console, in fact.1 -
Geldauran✭✭✭shadyjane62 wrote: »I'm confused. Are they catering to PS3 or PS4?
PS4. This game was never on PS31 -
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✭✭✭shadyjane62 wrote: »I'm confused. Are they catering to PS3 or PS4?
PS4. This game was never on PS3
ty.
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✭✭✭✭✭shadyjane62 wrote: »shadyjane62 wrote: »I'm confused. Are they catering to PS3 or PS4?
PS4. This game was never on PS3
ty.
The PS3 discussion had to do with DCUO and Destiny being held back by supporting that console, not ESO.
ESO currently straddles the line between the PS4 and PS5. With both DCUO, Destiny, dropping support for the last gen console freed their dev teams from serious technical limitations that had been harming those games.0 -
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✭What new marvelous content has Zos developed since Summerset or Elsywer? Consoles played both fine….
Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight (Damage)
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (One-Bar)
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)
Leveling...
Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist
Styx of Akatosh a Goblin* Arcanist
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
__________________________Backstories:_________________________
Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
{time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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Kalle_Demos✭✭✭✭✭Consoles and the people who buy them are holding gaming back as a medium. We cannot, collectively, have nice things because of your purchasing habits.
Edited by Kalle_Demos on July 23, 2022 12:48PM
"If I am to be Queen, I must look fear in the face and conquer it. How can I ask my people to have faith in me if I don't have faith in myself?" - Queen Ayrenn11 -
Riptide✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well there are what, two mmorpgs on consoles, at least on PSN. The other 30 or so hat exist only on PC haven’t exactly transcended spacetime the last I checked, but it has admittedly been a year or so since I checked.
I mean the only folks I’ve ever seen who espoused that kind of view were dependent minors who never lived through the first zelda years
Esse quam videri.2 -
MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭I mean... it was literally the developers who said so, not anyone of us.
Source:Q: Just to see if we can dispel one of the myths running within The Elder Scrolls Online community, is it true that you'd have problems introducing any additional skill trees due to the limited memory of old-generation consoles (PlayStation 4, Xbox One)?
A:Nothing is impossible. I mean, we do have to be careful. There's only so much memory on those consoles for sure and we have to be smart about what we do. We do have a focus on performance and making the game run really well. So there's a balance.
He is not saying yes, but he is saying as much of a yes as he is allowed to say. They are trying their best to make it work anyhow, but he would have outright denied it if the limiting factor wasn't older generation consoles.
DCUO dealt with this same issue when PS4 launched and PS3 players stuck it out until 2019 or so. So another 3 years of PS4 and xBox1 is highly probable.0 -
Aggrovious✭✭✭✭ZOS should just give PC the update needed. Console can catch up later easy.Making a game fun should be a priority. Making a game balanced should not come at the expense of fun.0 -
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Hahaha. No way.Kalle_Demos wrote: »Consoles and the people who buy them are holding gaming back as a medium. We cannot, collectively, have nice things because of your purchasing habits.
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✭✭✭If me buying a console upsets a number of people, that's on them, not me. Weird how what people game on is construed by some as one of the most important things in life, yet the same people probably don't bat an eyelid at those who do buy stuff that has a direct impact on them. Such as those people who buy gas guzzlers to drive to the end of their street to drop their kids off at school.
Can safely say, what folk game on has never really crossed my mind. It's not as if ESO hasn't been out for years, so the revelation people are playing on consoles ain't new, ever gonna change, yet those moaning about it are still invested in the game. Warts and all.4 -
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Hahaha. No way.Kalle_Demos wrote: »Consoles and the people who buy them are holding gaming back as a medium. We cannot, collectively, have nice things because of your purchasing habits.
Games like ESO have to be dumbed down to accommodate the limited processing and memory in a gaming console. This is just a fact. So it's also a fact that console gamers ARE holding the gaming community back from having the really nice games that could only be played on a gaming PC. ZOS has said repeatedly that they have some issues when it comes to catering to consoles and we all DO pay a price in terms of quality, graphics etc. A game that caters to console players will always be held back due to the limited hardware in the console.6 -
Dracan_Fontom✭✭✭✭✭The fact this argument still exists, despite a game such as FF14 which significantly larger with more then quadruple the amount of classes, skills and content supporting not only PS4/PS5 very well AND allowing for cross platform play, is hilarious. Perhaps we should stop blaming consoles and start blaming the hardware the developers used to make this game. In fact, why is this thread even open still? Nonesense.9 -
WinterHeart626✭✭✭✭Well, you see, Pc and consoles don’t have cross play.
They run on entirely different servers, so realistically ESO “could” be updated ahead of consoles.
To say that X is holding Y back because of ABC is sophistry.
Also, the major difference between PC and console are the fancy little helping add ons PC can get via third party.
To tell console players to get a PS5 or series X because the old gen are “holding back” the “PC master race” is also a load of BS. 90% of the time if you want one of the newer consoles you have to pay a scalper.5 -
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✭✭Kalle_Demos wrote: »Consoles and the people who buy them are holding gaming back as a medium. We cannot, collectively, have nice things because of your purchasing habits.
You really think gaming would be as diverse, lucrative & fun if it was still on PCs only??
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✭SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »Kalle_Demos wrote: »Consoles and the people who buy them are holding gaming back as a medium. We cannot, collectively, have nice things because of your purchasing habits.
You really think gaming would be as diverse, lucrative & fun if it was still on PCs only??
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Gaming was invented on PC and has always been better on PC. Yes, gaming would be more diverse and fun if it was more PC focused and less first person shooter gamebox focused.Edited by EdmondDontes on July 26, 2022 4:47PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭EdmondDontes wrote: »SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »Kalle_Demos wrote: »Consoles and the people who buy them are holding gaming back as a medium. We cannot, collectively, have nice things because of your purchasing habits.
You really think gaming would be as diverse, lucrative & fun if it was still on PCs only??
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Gaming was invented on PC and has always been better on PC. Yes, gaming would be more diverse and fun if it was more PC focused and less first person shooter gamebox focused.
The first, non lab, video games were Arcade games, and then consoles for home use. The first games invented on computer were done in labs as experiments more than commercial distribution like a modern video game. Definitely not PCs.
Not to mention, the first console was in development since 51 and released in 72. Which means that, since the inception of video games, consoles were literally right there.Edited by jaws343 on July 26, 2022 5:01PM3 -
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✭EdmondDontes wrote: »SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »Kalle_Demos wrote: »Consoles and the people who buy them are holding gaming back as a medium. We cannot, collectively, have nice things because of your purchasing habits.
You really think gaming would be as diverse, lucrative & fun if it was still on PCs only??
🤣🤣
Gaming was invented on PC and has always been better on PC. Yes, gaming would be more diverse and fun if it was more PC focused and less first person shooter gamebox focused.
The first, non lab, video games were Arcade games, and then consoles for home use. The first games invented on computer were done in labs as experiments more than commercial distribution like a modern video game. Definitely not PCs.
Nope. Even Pong was invented on PC then put into a "gamebox" for home users. I guess you could argue pinball was around first, and there were pinball arcades.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭EdmondDontes wrote: »EdmondDontes wrote: »SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »Kalle_Demos wrote: »Consoles and the people who buy them are holding gaming back as a medium. We cannot, collectively, have nice things because of your purchasing habits.
You really think gaming would be as diverse, lucrative & fun if it was still on PCs only??
🤣🤣
Gaming was invented on PC and has always been better on PC. Yes, gaming would be more diverse and fun if it was more PC focused and less first person shooter gamebox focused.
The first, non lab, video games were Arcade games, and then consoles for home use. The first games invented on computer were done in labs as experiments more than commercial distribution like a modern video game. Definitely not PCs.
Nope. Even Pong was invented on PC then put into a "gamebox" for home users. I guess you could argue pinball was around first, and there were pinball arcades.
I mean, that literally proves my point. It was only available to actual users via a console like device. PCs did not exist in a commercially available way before console and console type devices were already delivering video games to end users.
Also, being invented on PC doesn't mean made for PC. Like, no one is taking an XBOX and building a game on it. Even games built specifically for XBOX are built using computers. Because, that is how things works.Edited by jaws343 on July 26, 2022 5:10PM3
