How to prevent name banns?

Dagobertfuk

I have 10 or 11 named after NPC's from the Singleplayer games TES: Skyrim and Oblivion wich arent a part of Elder Scrolls Online. Some are just a part of the card game TES: Legends, but do not excist in any of the singleplayer games or Elder Scrolls Online.

Next thing is that i couldnt even choose the exact names bec i got always the message in character creation, that those names are not available. Isnt that enough???

So i choosed for example the name ''Naryu Vırıan'' (without Dot) instead of Naryu Virian.

I am a very active player. Constant listed on leaderboards and easy to notice. But there never was any issue. some of those chars already exist since 6 years.

So i wanna know if those Names( like Naryu Vırıan without Dot) is an issue now or not.

I can't effort 10 names changes at the moment. The prices in Germany for food/energy go crazy since ukraine conflict. No way i can buy 25k crowns.

@zos_ginabruno

Jim_Pipp

Don't worry.

The community is having a panic about nothing - YOU'VE HAD THESE CHARACTER NAMES FOR YEARS, you were allowed to choose these names, they aren't really a problem.

If you get reported for some hard to prove breach then moderators may do some disciplinary action against character name, because that is easy to prove.

If it is your first offence you get a name change token.

(For 8 years I've had toons with the EXACT name of reoccurring iconic characters from ES. I've seen people get name-change orders for having names derived from those characters. It's not a bot moderating the database, it's a form of disciplinary action.)

Drammanoth

@Dagobertfuk tbh, if I were given a chance / were persuaded to change my name, I'd use my creativity and check the list of names on UESP, or this: https://www.fantasynamegenerators.com/elder-scrolls.php

Maybe it's just me, but the fact that people use names of renowned NPCs is evident of them having little creativity.

This, however, can be remedied.

Yakidafi

Those name rules have been here for a long time i believe since 2014, they might have added them later. They are not new.

I have character names that are named after other known fictional characters, I see many that do too.

There are official comments about it in this topic.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7630084#Comment_7630084

They advised people like you to contact customer support if you are really that worried.

Ratzkifal

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

Don't worry.

The community is having a panic about nothing - YOU'VE HAD THESE CHARACTER NAMES FOR YEARS, you were allowed to choose these names, they aren't really a problem.

If you get reported for some hard to prove breach then moderators may do some disciplinary action against character name, because that is easy to prove.

If it is your first offence you get a name change token.

(For 8 years I've had toons with the EXACT name of reoccurring iconic characters from ES. I've seen people get name-change orders for having names derived from those characters. It's not a bot moderating the database, it's a form of disciplinary action.)

Honestly that sounds very concerning. What I get from this is that anyone can at any time be targetted by a group of bullies in game and get reported for some hard to prove thing and as long as you have a name resembling a property that isn't your own or some historical figure they'll get away with it and you get a penalty, which then counts as a TOS violation history the next time they report you...

_Zathras_

Naming police reside in every game. Depending on your gaming history, some MMOs actively discouraged non-original names. For instance, the roleplay server in EQ back in the day was very strict on originality, and would punish you if you were caught/reported for using a character name (even an obscure one) from a novel, movie, or some other similar source.

Times have changed to loosen up those restrictions, but the ruleset for some MMOs won't allow you to use a NPC name from their world. Generally someone would have to spot it, report you, then a judgement call would be made on the GM side. As noted from Kevin, exact spellings could earn you a name change.

Moving forward, I use this tool as an aid in character creation. The variety is staggering, and nothing will ever infringe on a copyright.

Hlaaluna

No point fretting over your existing names. Life is too short to worry about things like that. Too much panic happening over this.

PrimusTiberius

This is way overblown, Mods will warn you several times before laying down the hammer, if you are a repeat a offender and you continue playing silly games, yes, your account will be suspended.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

I have 10 or 11 named after NPC's from the Singleplayer games TES: Skyrim and Oblivion wich arent a part of Elder Scrolls Online. Some are just a part of the card game TES: Legends, but do not excist in any of the singleplayer games or Elder Scrolls Online.

Next thing is that i couldnt even choose the exact names bec i got always the message in character creation, that those names are not available. Isnt that enough???

So i choosed for example the name ''Naryu Vırıan'' (without Dot) instead of Naryu Virian.

I am a very active player. Constant listed on leaderboards and easy to notice. But there never was any issue. some of those chars already exist since 6 years.

So i wanna know if those Names( like Naryu Vırıan without Dot) is an issue now or not.

I can't effort 10 names changes at the moment. The prices in Germany for food/energy go crazy since ukraine conflict. No way i can buy 25k crowns.

@zos_ginabruno

If you haven't been banned and permabanned multiple times for a host of more serious reasons you'll be completely fine. As others have said the most that will happen is your character name will either be changed or you will be asked to change it and given the token to do so.

oldbobdude

Names should be checked at creation to make sure they meet TOS. If that isn’t possible, then any name that is later decided doesn’t meet TOS should come with a name change token. In this day and age people are easily offended.

Dagobertfuk

oldbobdude wrote: »

Names should be checked at creation to make sure they meet TOS. If that isn’t possible, then any name that is later decided doesn’t meet TOS should come with a name change token. In this day and age people are easily offended.

What if you didnt play their Singleplayergames? Do i have to read all Elder Scrolls Books, play all Elder Scrolls games to make sure my Name isnt against TOS???

I asked the Costumer Service to give me renames for my Charnames wich are against TOS/COC. They gave me 6 renames. I had to rename those names i had for 6 Years!! I got some namebanns before, because those were to troll BUT those Names of my RP Chars never were touched.

4 of those names i had to rename were valid, because they are famous NPC from the singleplayer games. But 2 of those were simple first names everyone could have in RL and claiming them copyrighted is so bad and approved about ZOS dont have any respect at all.
This is the same attitude they had while deleting peoples comments in Bethesda Twitch Stream, wich were related to pvp. They just dont care.

In this case nobody will be save. They just have to implement a NPC in the future and claim its against TOS wich is similuar to a players name and he can get reported.

Amottica

For starters, I expect you are like most of us and have never had an infraction in-game so you would not experience anything more than a free name change if Zenimax chose to force the issue

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

So i choosed for example the name ''Naryu Vırıan'' (without Dot) instead of Naryu Virian.

Gina provided examples in a recent thread and using a special character but having the name still look identical to the real name when using both the first and last names together are not permitted. It seems Naru virian would be acceptable but I would suggest a google search for that thread so you know how to proceed for future names. It may be in the dev tracker but I that is a slim chance.

Also, do not expect Gina to reply to this thread as they have already spoken on the subject. THey tend to not repeat themselves.

Dagobertfuk

Amottica wrote: »

For starters, I expect you are like most of us and have never had an infraction in-game so you would not experience anything more than a free name change if Zenimax chose to force the issue

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

So i choosed for example the name ''Naryu Vırıan'' (without Dot) instead of Naryu Virian.

Gina provided examples in a recent thread and using a special character but having the name still look identical to the real name when using both the first and last names together are not permitted. It seems Naru virian would be acceptable but I would suggest a google search for that thread so you know how to proceed for future names. It may be in the dev tracker but I that is a slim chance.

Also, do not expect Gina to reply to this thread as they have already spoken on the subject. THey tend to not repeat themselves.

Getting Gina's attention doesnt change anything and that isnt my intention either. I have read the TOS/COC and their explanations in the other thread. This is not an question of NPC names Masked with unicode stuff.
Its also about names Names wich are common first names.
Imagine you never played an Elder scrolls game and you wanna name your Charcter ''Astrid'', because its you first name IRL. Its taken already, but then you call yourself ''Astrıd''. Is that against TOS??? Its just dumb

Same thing when i call my Character Edward, because it is my IRL First name. Then they implement a NPC called ''Edward'' and i have to namechange again.

Danikat

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

oldbobdude wrote: »

Names should be checked at creation to make sure they meet TOS. If that isn’t possible, then any name that is later decided doesn’t meet TOS should come with a name change token. In this day and age people are easily offended.

What if you didnt play their Singleplayergames? Do i have to read all Elder Scrolls Books, play all Elder Scrolls games to make sure my Name isnt against TOS???

I asked the Costumer Service to give me renames for my Charnames wich are against TOS/COC. They gave me 6 renames. I had to rename those names i had for 6 Years!! I got some namebanns before, because those were to troll BUT those Names of my RP Chars never were touched.

4 of those names i had to rename were valid, because they are famous NPC from the singleplayer games. But 2 of those were simple first names everyone could have in RL and claiming them copyrighted is so bad and approved about ZOS dont have any respect at all.
This is the same attitude they had while deleting peoples comments in Bethesda Twitch Stream, wich were related to pvp. They just dont care.

In this case nobody will be save. They just have to implement a NPC in the future and claim its against TOS wich is similuar to a players name and he can get reported.

Wait, you said you asked Customer Services to give you the name change tokens? Do you mean they told you that you had to rename the characters and you said you can't afford it, or did you start the conversation instead of waiting to be told?

I'm sure I'm missing something here, but at the moment it sounds like you're complaining about something you asked them to do.

alanmatillab16_ESO

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

What if you didnt play their Singleplayergames? Do i have to read all Elder Scrolls Books, play all Elder Scrolls games to make sure my Name isnt against TOS???

If you want to avoid this do an online search for your intended character name. Takes a few seconds and can save a load of hassle. It doesnt save you from malicious reporting by players hoping to get you a ban using automated systems, I played New World for a bit and streamers getting their fans to mass report someone who beat them in PvP was rampant. Many players got unwarranted bans thanks to their systems being automated.

Dagobertfuk

Danikat wrote: »

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

oldbobdude wrote: »

Names should be checked at creation to make sure they meet TOS. If that isn’t possible, then any name that is later decided doesn’t meet TOS should come with a name change token. In this day and age people are easily offended.

What if you didnt play their Singleplayergames? Do i have to read all Elder Scrolls Books, play all Elder Scrolls games to make sure my Name isnt against TOS???

I asked the Costumer Service to give me renames for my Charnames wich are against TOS/COC. They gave me 6 renames. I had to rename those names i had for 6 Years!! I got some namebanns before, because those were to troll BUT those Names of my RP Chars never were touched.

4 of those names i had to rename were valid, because they are famous NPC from the singleplayer games. But 2 of those were simple first names everyone could have in RL and claiming them copyrighted is so bad and approved about ZOS dont have any respect at all.
This is the same attitude they had while deleting peoples comments in Bethesda Twitch Stream, wich were related to pvp. They just dont care.

In this case nobody will be save. They just have to implement a NPC in the future and claim its against TOS wich is similuar to a players name and he can get reported.

Wait, you said you asked Customer Services to give you the name change tokens? Do you mean they told you that you had to rename the characters and you said you can't afford it, or did you start the conversation instead of waiting to be told

I'm sure I'm missing something here, but at the moment it sounds like you're complaining about something you asked them to do.

I know that i had some character names wich are against TOS. So i didnt wanna get banned because some bullys need to report me and i get a potential bann. So i asked ZOS to watch my names to get the namechanges, instead of waiting for some losers reporting me.

The ridicilous thing is that i also got 2 Chars wich got a namechange aswell but arent elder scrolls copyrighted names. And this is ***

Syldras

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

The ridicilous thing is that i also got 2 Chars wich got a namechange aswell but arent elder scrolls copyrighted names.

And those names were...?

VaranisArano

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

oldbobdude wrote: »

Names should be checked at creation to make sure they meet TOS. If that isn’t possible, then any name that is later decided doesn’t meet TOS should come with a name change token. In this day and age people are easily offended.

What if you didnt play their Singleplayergames? Do i have to read all Elder Scrolls Books, play all Elder Scrolls games to make sure my Name isnt against TOS???

I asked the Costumer Service to give me renames for my Charnames wich are against TOS/COC. They gave me 6 renames. I had to rename those names i had for 6 Years!! I got some namebanns before, because those were to troll BUT those Names of my RP Chars never were touched.

4 of those names i had to rename were valid, because they are famous NPC from the singleplayer games. But 2 of those were simple first names everyone could have in RL and claiming them copyrighted is so bad and approved about ZOS dont have any respect at all.
This is the same attitude they had while deleting peoples comments in Bethesda Twitch Stream, wich were related to pvp. They just dont care.

In this case nobody will be save. They just have to implement a NPC in the future and claim its against TOS wich is similuar to a players name and he can get reported.

Wait, you said you asked Customer Services to give you the name change tokens? Do you mean they told you that you had to rename the characters and you said you can't afford it, or did you start the conversation instead of waiting to be told

I'm sure I'm missing something here, but at the moment it sounds like you're complaining about something you asked them to do.

I know that i had some character names wich are against TOS. So i didnt wanna get banned because some bullys need to report me and i get a potential bann. So i asked ZOS to watch my names to get the namechanges, instead of waiting for some losers reporting me.

The ridicilous thing is that i also got 2 Chars wich got a namechange aswell but arent elder scrolls copyrighted names. And this is ***

Sorry, Geralt of Rivia and Drizzt Do'Urden fans, other people's IPs are also covered.

alanmatillab16_ESO

VaranisArano wrote: »

Sorry, Geralt of Rivia and Drizzt Do'Urden fans, other people's IPs are also covered.

Good. So many variations on Drizzt, Legolas, Geralt, it shows a total lack of imagination and are as bad as the XxXStealthkillaXxX and such names.

Kiralyn2000

Lillutu wrote: »

No point fretting over your existing names. Life is too short to worry about things like that. Too much panic happening over this.

^
This

Tandor

Some players are getting this sudden panic over their characters' names wholly out of proportion. For others it is doubtless a wake-up call.

VaranisArano

alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Sorry, Geralt of Rivia and Drizzt Do'Urden fans, other people's IPs are also covered.

Good. So many variations on Drizzt, Legolas, Geralt, it shows a total lack of imagination and are as bad as the XxXStealthkillaXxX and such names.

Eh, I really don't have an issue with people wanting to roleplay a character from a different universe in TES games. That's basically the premise of most Crossover fanfiction, and it's not necessarily indicative of a lack of imagination. The rule is more about IP protection.

XxXStealthkillaXxX though, they've got quite the name to live up to. I'm either gonna salute them over my death recap, or be cracking up when they whiff the gank.

Soldier224

I dont know, why it is so hard to imagine a Charaktername? In ESO you can take a name with 3 Words or more. That should be enough variability to imagine a name without breach the TOS or symbols.

Mesite

I can't imagine that anyone who just bought the game reads all the rules. Most people won't realise it's a problem to name your character after someone they won't meet until after the tutorial. It's like global cooldown. You only realise it's a thing when you read the forums.

Destai

There's only two ways to prevent name bans that are 100% effective.
1. As a company don't do them. This is the preferred method and the cheapest to implement.
2. Have an in-game name generator. Requires a technical solution and would apply to all-names going forward.

zaria

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

oldbobdude wrote: »

Names should be checked at creation to make sure they meet TOS. If that isn’t possible, then any name that is later decided doesn’t meet TOS should come with a name change token. In this day and age people are easily offended.

What if you didnt play their Singleplayergames? Do i have to read all Elder Scrolls Books, play all Elder Scrolls games to make sure my Name isnt against TOS???

I asked the Costumer Service to give me renames for my Charnames wich are against TOS/COC. They gave me 6 renames. I had to rename those names i had for 6 Years!! I got some namebanns before, because those were to troll BUT those Names of my RP Chars never were touched.

4 of those names i had to rename were valid, because they are famous NPC from the singleplayer games. But 2 of those were simple first names everyone could have in RL and claiming them copyrighted is so bad and approved about ZOS dont have any respect at all.
This is the same attitude they had while deleting peoples comments in Bethesda Twitch Stream, wich were related to pvp. They just dont care.

In this case nobody will be save. They just have to implement a NPC in the future and claim its against TOS wich is similuar to a players name and he can get reported.

Wait, you said you asked Customer Services to give you the name change tokens? Do you mean they told you that you had to rename the characters and you said you can't afford it, or did you start the conversation instead of waiting to be told

I'm sure I'm missing something here, but at the moment it sounds like you're complaining about something you asked them to do.

I know that i had some character names wich are against TOS. So i didnt wanna get banned because some bullys need to report me and i get a potential bann. So i asked ZOS to watch my names to get the namechanges, instead of waiting for some losers reporting me.

The ridicilous thing is that i also got 2 Chars wich got a namechange aswell but arent elder scrolls copyrighted names. And this is ***

You will not get banned, you will get an forced name change, as I understand the player who got banned was an toxic problem type and this was an technicality like taking an mafia boss down with tax evasion charges.

Zaria is kind of an name I started using playing TES 3 Morrowind and wanted an exotic name for an elf.
Well an alchemist in Falcreach hold was named Zaria, fitting as she was an Redguard an its an Arabic name.
IP protected names from other franchises is something they have to enforce.
Drizzt Do'Urden or Gandalf is obvious one here, names who are in common use are not.

Monte_Cristo

alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Sorry, Geralt of Rivia and Drizzt Do'Urden fans, other people's IPs are also covered.

Good. So many variations on Drizzt, Legolas, Geralt, it shows a total lack of imagination and are as bad as the XxXStealthkillaXxX and such names.

Remember all the Khaleesi variants year ago? And various other Game Of Thrones names. Haven't seen many since the show finished.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

So i choosed for example the name ''Naryu Vırıan'' (without Dot) instead of Naryu Virian.

As Gina mentioned when she elaborated on this. Naryu Virian in any form is not allowed, doesn't matter if you spell it Naryu Vırıan, Nàryú Vírìan or whatever, it still counts.

Naming a character Naryu Sotha or Llothis Virian is fine.

Imagine you never played an Elder scrolls game and you wanna name your Charcter ''Astrid'', because its you first name IRL. Its taken already, but then you call yourself ''Astrıd''. Is that against TOS??? Its just dumb

Same there, naming yourself Astrid is also fine, because it's just a common nord first name. If her name had been Astrid Bitterblade and you named a character that it could be iffy.

DreamyLu

That can be some work to change all names. I myself had to do that some years ago in GW2.

One day, Anet put in place a very strict name policy covering all types of slang words in all languages. At this occasion, many of us had quite some bad surprise: I discovered that the 4 letters shortcut on word "Lullaby" that I had in all my char names, since years in several games, is a dutch slang word!

Suddenly, my names were against policy. I had to change them all one by one (over 20 chars). Due to the meaning of that slang word, I also decided to change it everywhere (not only in GW2). That was no fun plus the fact that it was like erasing an online "identity" after 10years+ existence...