THIS is the BIGGEST PROBLEM with the EVENT

Crismac

Minyassa wrote: »

Crismac wrote: »

Lol, I have arachnophobia, and I am totally creeped out by how many spider parts my character is carrying around.

@Crismac Take comfort in this, if it helps: They have six legs. They're insects, they've just been named wrong. See, no spiders, all better. From one arachnophobe to another...every little bit helps, yeah?

I do feel beter. Thanks Minyassa.

Imagine if they didn't stack?

Dave, they would be in the trash. Only because of my hoarding problem with these types of games it doesn't happen now.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

LOL, its absolutely absurd.

ZOS completely lacks subtlety. Either items are impossible to get from event boxes (think body/face markings from MYM), or they are so abundant they become a hassle to deal with. Thankfully they stack because at this rate, I will have multiple stacks of each.

newtinmpls

preevious wrote: »

1. See a bajillion of the same junk every time you open a guild trader.
2. Having our hard-earned achievement of getting all motif rendered null because there's so much motif being handed that they could basically be used as toilet paper with the price drop.
3. Having to read 137 posts of the forum asking for an extension of that marvel of an event because last maintenance lasted 37s more than usual.
4. Having to see people being happy because they opended a box that contains a rare item that will inevitably be worth next to nothing 3 days later.

I will address your points one by one:

1. There are always groups/duplicates in guild traders. This is nothing new. And for those who don't have much time to participate in an event, it's nice to be able to obtain items for less gold.

2. When farming to sell, it's NOT generally a good idea to put motifs in particular up for sale prior to this particular event. As another point, what with the ridiculous inflation (at least on PC/NA) it's nice to see some slight price dropping for the rare motifs.

3. I think that every event has peeps who want "more time". Not really a new thing.

4. Again, if your particular endgame is trading, then instead of selling it "three days later" wait. I tend to get more selling (for example) Hallowjack drops about 2 months prior to the event. The most recent "rare item" that I got was a bit of nirncrux. That is not likely to devalue much any time soon.

NettleCarrier

GuildedLilly wrote: »

...Anything under 100k makes your head hurt?

100k is a lot for a new player or casual, 100k X 7 is completely out of their reach, and saberkeel drops are NOT guaranteed, just intentionally limited by ZOS to a MAX of one drop per day. I've been a millionaire in ESO on console and PC for years, so expensive motifs aren't a problem for me personally, but I know that building gold when you're just starting out or just playing to have fun is a grind, especially if you're not part of a trading guild.

By this reasoning, there are far worse events... look at Ebonsteel pages for example, black drake warpaint, black drake clanwrap armor styles, even last event's second seed styles are all more than Saberkeel today. I'm also going to bring up Undaunted styles, which are 100k or 50 keys (or a small chance from a 1 key box) when they are active, with helms rarely dipping below 1 million gold. Not every style should be designed to be bank fodder. The vast majority of them out there are very very cheap and litter guild stores. Any new player can wander around a starting zone and pick materials (yes, even level 1-10 materials) and easily net 100k an hour. If they don't want to join one of the many many no-dues trading guilds (like mine) they can easily sell it in zone chat for 20% under market value and still feel good about it if 100k is a lot of money to them.

Last year each of my characters averaged 1 million gold over the course of the event, and this is including a bunch of level 12-14s who are just barely writ certified and only did writs for a few minutes per day. There's hope! Once people see how easy it is to make money they believe me...

Arunei

preevious wrote: »

Why?
This event has absolutely no problem whatsoever !

It's so fun to .

1. See a bajillion of the same junk every time you open a guild trader.
2. Having our hard-earned achievement of getting all motif rendered null because there's so much motif being handed that they could basically be used as toilet paper with the price drop.
3. Having to read 137 posts of the forum asking for an extention of that marvel of an event because last maintenance lasted 37s more than usual.
4. Having to see people being happy because they opended a box that contains a rare item that will inevitably be worth next to nothing 3 days later.

...yay ...

That event is, by very, very far, the absolute worst par of the game.

Whoever genius designed it should be ashamed.

1) What does it matter what junk you can see when there are filters and a search bar to find what you're looking for? This is a non-issue.

2) This doesn't make sense. How does an event that drops Chapters you might not have negatively affect the achievement of collecting them? If you want to ""earn"" your chapters literally no one is forcing you to use the ones you get from the event, sell them or give them away or something. As to your point about the price drop, I'll remark on that for the last point.

3) People are allowed to ask for an extension if problems with the game are preventing them from taking part in any given event for an extended period of time. Also no one is holding a gun to your head making you read any particular thread, so this is another non-issue. Just...ignore the threads about extensions.

4) You realize that as supply from the event dries up, prices on most things will inevitably go back up, right? It's like this every year, people get rare items and rush to sell them before the price tanks, which drives down prices for a while and makes these items easier to obtain. But as those items start to get more scarce people start pricing them for more again. The price on stuff generally goes back up within a few months.

At the end of the day everyone is allowed to feel however they feel about any given event, but when half your complaints are things that don't even apply just to events (point 1) or are things you can easily avoid and not subject yourself to (points 1, 2, and part of 3), it makes your overall argument about why something is "by far the worst part of the game" seem more like empty complaining and that "whoever designed the event should be ashamed" as baseless bashing.

Dojohoda

It's War of the Cyroworld



(I'm not serious, just wasting a bit of time this afternoon)

phileunderx2

Why not just put the spider pet in the stuff you can buy with tickets? To make it you have to spend 5 to get the instructions to make the thing. Instead I'm having to delete multiples on every set of writs I do.

GuildedLilly

NettleCarrier wrote: »

GuildedLilly wrote: »

...Anything under 100k makes your head hurt?

100k is a lot for a new player or casual, 100k X 7 is completely out of their reach, and saberkeel drops are NOT guaranteed, just intentionally limited by ZOS to a MAX of one drop per day. I've been a millionaire in ESO on console and PC for years, so expensive motifs aren't a problem for me personally, but I know that building gold when you're just starting out or just playing to have fun is a grind, especially if you're not part of a trading guild.

By this reasoning, there are far worse events... look at Ebonsteel pages for example, black drake warpaint, black drake clanwrap armor styles, even last event's second seed styles are all more than Saberkeel today. I'm also going to bring up Undaunted styles, which are 100k or 50 keys (or a small chance from a 1 key box) when they are active, with helms rarely dipping below 1 million gold.

...You didn't think through my reasoning, or yours.

Ebonsteel pages weren't limited to 1 per day, neither were Black Drake, or Second seed. You could farm Ebonsteel in IC if you felt like dealing with the gankers, you could farm Black Drake, you could attempt to farm Second Seed by doing all jesters quests each day, and even creating free alts (ESO base allows 8 characters I think without crown store purchases) to increase your odds. Black Drake Warpaint (Body Markings and Face) combined is 10 tickets, with the outfit pages being farmable--the drop rate sucked for markings, but 10 tickets with the rest of the style being farmable is a whole different level of accessibility.

Saberkeel isn't farmable. You would need 35 tickets, not 10, to get a full set if RNG is being particularly unkind, since page drops aren't guaranteed, and are limited to a MAX of one day.

Undaunted keys can be earned all year through pledges-- 3-6 keys per character, per day, with no artificial 12 max limit. Guilds sell carry runs in vet content, or guildies will often help a guildmate (even carry free) if they ask. Someone who is brand new can spin up a few free alts and get undaunted shoulders just through earning keys. Someone who is casual can ask a guildmate for a carry. You can pay in game gold, but it's not a requirement. You can earn it, your guild can help you, the community can help you, you can swap for it--and your keys are not limited to 12, or to only keys that you earn during the event.

There is NO equivalent event in terms of restrictions, time-gating, and ticket walling to the current event. There never has been. Hopefully, there never will be.

FlopsyPrince

alberichtano wrote: »

Crashtestdummy87 wrote: »

you are being sarcastic i hope?

I would be extremely surprised if that was not the case.

Getting rid of the extras you do "rarely" get to drop is a PAIN.

FlopsyPrince

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

LOL, its absolutely absurd.

ZOS completely lacks subtlety. Either items are impossible to get from event boxes (think body/face markings from MYM), or they are so abundant they become a hassle to deal with. Thankfully they stack because at this rate, I will have multiple stacks of each.

Exactly!

Try to get the Dubious Cameron Throne recipe the last event. It was almost impossible, for something that should be quite a bit more frequent. I recall it dropping like this one a few years ago.

FlopsyPrince

GuildedLilly wrote: »

There is NO equivalent event in terms of restrictions, time-gating, and ticket walling to the current event. There never has been. Hopefully, there never will be.

While I agree with what you said about the drop rates, I do like one major thing about this event: You just have to eat a cake to get tickets.

No need to do some PvP daily to get tickets, for example!

Tommy_The_Gun

And to rub more salt into the wound... those parts have 0 gold value, so for the most people it is right click -> Destroy. You can not even sell those to NPCs. Also - even if you are in a guild with a trading vendor npc, I doubt any one would buy those, even for 1 gold lol.

NettleCarrier

GuildedLilly wrote: »

NettleCarrier wrote: »

GuildedLilly wrote: »

...Anything under 100k makes your head hurt?

100k is a lot for a new player or casual, 100k X 7 is completely out of their reach, and saberkeel drops are NOT guaranteed, just intentionally limited by ZOS to a MAX of one drop per day. I've been a millionaire in ESO on console and PC for years, so expensive motifs aren't a problem for me personally, but I know that building gold when you're just starting out or just playing to have fun is a grind, especially if you're not part of a trading guild.

By this reasoning, there are far worse events... look at Ebonsteel pages for example, black drake warpaint, black drake clanwrap armor styles, even last event's second seed styles are all more than Saberkeel today. I'm also going to bring up Undaunted styles, which are 100k or 50 keys (or a small chance from a 1 key box) when they are active, with helms rarely dipping below 1 million gold.

...You didn't think through my reasoning, or yours.

Ebonsteel pages weren't limited to 1 per day, neither were Black Drake, or Second seed. You could farm Ebonsteel in IC if you felt like dealing with the gankers, you could farm Black Drake, you could attempt to farm Second Seed by doing all jesters quests each day, and even creating free alts (ESO base allows 8 characters I think without crown store purchases) to increase your odds. Black Drake Warpaint (Body Markings and Face) combined is 10 tickets, with the outfit pages being farmable--the drop rate sucked for markings, but 10 tickets with the rest of the style being farmable is a whole different level of accessibility.

Saberkeel isn't farmable. You would need 35 tickets, not 10, to get a full set if RNG is being particularly unkind, since page drops aren't guaranteed, and are limited to a MAX of one day.

Undaunted keys can be earned all year through pledges-- 3-6 keys per character, per day, with no artificial 12 max limit. Guilds sell carry runs in vet content, or guildies will often help a guildmate (even carry free) if they ask. Someone who is brand new can spin up a few free alts and get undaunted shoulders just through earning keys. Someone who is casual can ask a guildmate for a carry. You can pay in game gold, but it's not a requirement. You can earn it, your guild can help you, the community can help you, you can swap for it--and your keys are not limited to 12, or to only keys that you earn during the event.

There is NO equivalent event in terms of restrictions, time-gating, and ticket walling to the current event. There never has been. Hopefully, there never will be.

I thought through it plenty, this is my whole economy in the game and I move tens of millions of this stuff yearly. I run an entire guild based off of teaching people how to make money and buy the things that they need. Your method assumes you are 100% Solo Self-Found (a term used in some other games I play and I feel it fits here). There's nothing wrong with that playstyle at all, but it does come at a price - and that's drops like this.

This situation is MUCH easier if you do more of what works best for you and buy the rest. If you have bad luck with Saberkeel drops then you simply farm more dailies to generate more money and then use said money to buy missing pages. There's no requirement that you loot all the pieces yourself. If this style was a motif, each of my characters could have easily afforded to buy the 7 pages at 50k/each just doing their 7 writs each day of the event. Same goes for any event - someone who liked PvP could have farmed a lot more Ebonsteel/Black Drake pages and made money that way too. I didn't farm a single one of my own Seed pages, or any of the PvP ones, I just continued what I like doing and bought them with proceeds from doing what I like doing. This is not much different.

If someone refuses to engage with the trading system in an MMO then that's their loss, and yes this time around they are out of luck I guess. I much prefer it this way because it keeps style page prices healthy.

Alinhbo_Tyaka

Crashtestdummy87 wrote: »

you are being sarcastic i hope?

Maybe they like like playing the ESO inventory management mini game.

ShawnLaRock

Having not collected every motif yet after moving from XBOX to PC - the biggest problem with the event is that every Spider Part takes the place of a motif drop I could have had. It’s a slap in the face, and ruins the most fun and fruitful event of the entire year.

It’s only Day 5, and I have ~120 frags that SHOULD be ~120 motif pages!

S.

NettleCarrier

ShawnLaRock wrote: »

Having not collected every motif yet after moving from XBOX to PC - the biggest problem with the event is that every Spider Part takes the place of a motif drop I could have had. It’s a slap in the face, and ruins the most fun and fruitful event of the entire year.

It’s only Day 5, and I have ~120 frags that SHOULD be ~120 motif pages!

S.

This is not at all correct - and while we don't 100% know the drop rates, the spider fragments come as extra pieces to what appears to be a guaranteed 2 rewards per coffer with the occasional third. The last few years we were flooded with Hero and Imperial styles so this is really no different (except far easier to delete!) I've been tracking my rewards and I actually have more motif pages than I did this far into the event last year.

FlopsyPrince

NettleCarrier wrote: »

If someone refuses to engage with the trading system in an MMO then that's their loss, and yes this time around they are out of luck I guess. I much prefer it this way because it keeps style page prices healthy.

Winning at the "trading game" you note takes a lot more time than other things.

Daily crafting does make decent money, but gets kind of boring with many alts. Still a good way to make gold, but I find I lack motivation many days. I would rather hunt skyshards or the many other things I want to do to further my characters.

This is an MMO not a trading sim. The built-in tools suck and even the addons for the PC are limited. Yes you can make money, but it is a lot of work to do so.

SeaGtGruff

NettleCarrier wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

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Right now my biggest problem with the event is having to leave event coffers unemptied because they contain Transmute Crystals which would put me over 1000. I need to reconstruct some good gear for some alts who've finally hit Level 50, after which I can empty out those event coffers and reclaim some inventory slots, but I haven't gotten a Round Tuit yet.

Just have one fully completed set that is not a mythic item and construct a junk piece for 25 transmutes. As long as you only paid 25 transmutes to construct it you'll get a 100% return on your transmutes when you deconstruct the item later. It essentially behaves like packaging your own 25 crystal geodes.

On one server I crafted 6 Rings of the Wild Hunt for my 6 alts during the last PvP event so I'd be able to collect more crystals without losing any, even though only one of those alts was at L50, but now I'm back to 1000. On the other server I've only just hit 1000 during this event, but I don't have any fully-assembled mythics I can reconstruct on that server yet.

I know you said non-mythic, just a trash item, but I do need to reconstruct decent gear for 4 of my alts on one server, and for 1 of my alts on the other server, so I can start-- or in some cases, get back to-- questing and playing with them instead of just using them as mules and crafting slaves. I'd rather do that than just dump crystals and other mats into miscellaneous items that none of my characters will actually use.

NettleCarrier

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

NettleCarrier wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

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Right now my biggest problem with the event is having to leave event coffers unemptied because they contain Transmute Crystals which would put me over 1000. I need to reconstruct some good gear for some alts who've finally hit Level 50, after which I can empty out those event coffers and reclaim some inventory slots, but I haven't gotten a Round Tuit yet.

Just have one fully completed set that is not a mythic item and construct a junk piece for 25 transmutes. As long as you only paid 25 transmutes to construct it you'll get a 100% return on your transmutes when you deconstruct the item later. It essentially behaves like packaging your own 25 crystal geodes.

On one server I crafted 6 Rings of the Wild Hunt for my 6 alts during the last PvP event so I'd be able to collect more crystals without losing any, even though only one of those alts was at L50, but now I'm back to 1000. On the other server I've only just hit 1000 during this event, but I don't have any fully-assembled mythics I can reconstruct on that server yet.

I know you said non-mythic, just a trash item, but I do need to reconstruct decent gear for 4 of my alts on one server, and for 1 of my alts on the other server, so I can start-- or in some cases, get back to-- questing and playing with them instead of just using them as mules and crafting slaves. I'd rather do that than just dump crystals and other mats into miscellaneous items that none of my characters will actually use.

Sooo... I said non-mythic because as I found out the hard way - you can't deconstruct mythic items and so you'll never get those stones back. If your point is to use the transmutes then absolutely craft some mythics. My response was about saving transmutes in storage so you can continue to open jubilee boxes without issue.

Gaeliannas

Dojohoda wrote: »

PLEASE allow us use our spider parts to build a megahuge guild-wide cooperation spider monster to walk across Cyrodiil pew pewing.

Ok, that would be amazing! It could shoot webs, that green firepot goo and light it... or simply stomp on enemies and leave little red splotches wherever it roams! It would have to be able to climb keep walls too, being as it is a spider an all!

RisenEclipse

Sadly I do not have even close to the gold to just buy the new style pages lol but... that's my fault... because I'm a massive hoarder in game and will refuse to sell anything I have. Even if I don't need it. *cries in bank storage*

But I'll probably use my tickets to get the new style. As I hate every Akatosh item that has come out so far. So will not be using my tickets on those.

shadyjane62

I have Spider Firepot PTSD. I now dread opening my boxes which is a real problem since I now 23 chars on 2 accounts doing writs.

Sylvermynx

shadyjane62 wrote: »

I have Spider Firepot PTSD. I now dread opening my boxes which is a real problem since I now 23 chars on 2 accounts doing writs.

Uh.... I thought you deleted all your alts....

zaria

JoDiMageio wrote: »

preevious wrote: »

Why?
This event has absolutely no problem whatsoever !

It's so fun to .

1. See a bajillion of the same junk every time you open a guild trader.
2. Having our hard-earned achievement of getting all motif rendered null because there's so much motif being handed that they could basically be used as toilet paper with the price drop.
3. Having to read 137 posts of the forum asking for an extention of that marvel of an event because last maintenance lasted 37s more than usual.
4. Having to see people being happy because they opended a box that contains a rare item that will inevitably be worth next to nothing 3 days later.

...yay ...

That event is, by very, very far, the absolute worst par of the game.

Whoever genius designed it should be ashamed.

How would you celebrate/design the anniversary event instead?

More booze, much more. The Nords and Khajiit should probably come up with something.

Kiralyn2000

NettleCarrier wrote: »

If someone refuses to engage with the trading system in an MMO then that's their loss,

ZOS went out of their way to make this game's trading system buyer-unfriendly and exclusionary. It's great for the Ultra Pro Trader types who enjoy all this junk, not so good for the person who just dabbles now and then. (which is me - I don't sell enough things to even stay a week in a trading guild; even if I was willing to be strong-armed into a guild in order to participate in the first place; and having to search through dozens of traders across piles of loading screens, never knowing if you're finding a reasonable price, if you can even find something, is insane. So yeah - been playing since 2016, and I basically don't bother. I vendor everything that I don't use myself. Which, of course, helps the pro traders, since every valuable item that gets vendored/deconned/destroyed, is one more that's not saturating the market.)

ShawnLaRock

NettleCarrier wrote: »

ShawnLaRock wrote: »

Having not collected every motif yet after moving from XBOX to PC - the biggest problem with the event is that every Spider Part takes the place of a motif drop I could have had. It’s a slap in the face, and ruins the most fun and fruitful event of the entire year.

It’s only Day 5, and I have ~120 frags that SHOULD be ~120 motif pages!

S.

This is not at all correct - and while we don't 100% know the drop rates, the spider fragments come as extra pieces to what appears to be a guaranteed 2 rewards per coffer with the occasional third. The last few years we were flooded with Hero and Imperial styles so this is really no different (except far easier to delete!) I've been tracking my rewards and I actually have more motif pages than I did this far into the event last year.

"appears to be guaranteed" = inconclusive, and therefore "not at all correct"

All posts regarding Saberkeel drop rates & timers, as well as the rate & trigger for Spider parts are assumption only - especially when some characters get zero parts in x boxes opened, while others can get multiple with only 1 opened.

S.

SeaGtGruff

NettleCarrier wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

NettleCarrier wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

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Right now my biggest problem with the event is having to leave event coffers unemptied because they contain Transmute Crystals which would put me over 1000. I need to reconstruct some good gear for some alts who've finally hit Level 50, after which I can empty out those event coffers and reclaim some inventory slots, but I haven't gotten a Round Tuit yet.

Just have one fully completed set that is not a mythic item and construct a junk piece for 25 transmutes. As long as you only paid 25 transmutes to construct it you'll get a 100% return on your transmutes when you deconstruct the item later. It essentially behaves like packaging your own 25 crystal geodes.

On one server I crafted 6 Rings of the Wild Hunt for my 6 alts during the last PvP event so I'd be able to collect more crystals without losing any, even though only one of those alts was at L50, but now I'm back to 1000. On the other server I've only just hit 1000 during this event, but I don't have any fully-assembled mythics I can reconstruct on that server yet.

I know you said non-mythic, just a trash item, but I do need to reconstruct decent gear for 4 of my alts on one server, and for 1 of my alts on the other server, so I can start-- or in some cases, get back to-- questing and playing with them instead of just using them as mules and crafting slaves. I'd rather do that than just dump crystals and other mats into miscellaneous items that none of my characters will actually use.

Sooo... I said non-mythic because as I found out the hard way - you can't deconstruct mythic items and so you'll never get those stones back. If your point is to use the transmutes then absolutely craft some mythics. My response was about saving transmutes in storage so you can continue to open jubilee boxes without issue.

Thank you for that clarification, since I wasn't aware that mythics cannot be deconstructed.

Fortunately, the only mythic I've reconstructed for my alts is the Ring of the Wild Hunt, and I reconstructed it because I wanted each of them to have one so they can use it as needed-- even though I've currently got only one alt who's able to wear it, since the others are still below L50 right now.

When I spoke of needing to reconstruct decent gear for my L50 alts, I meant gear collected from overland sets and dungeon sets-- so, as it happens, non-mythic gear. My purpose in reconstructing that gear would be so it could be used, but it's good to be made aware of the shortcomings of reconstructing mythic gear if the goal is to store excess crystals.

alberichtano

Dojohoda wrote: »

PLEASE allow us use our spider parts to build a megahuge guild-wide cooperation spider monster to walk across Cyrodiil pew pewing.

You mean like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRWLMXWVaAM

alberichtano

GuildedLilly wrote: »

I don't understand what you are saying. What ' Change ' to the event pet is anti-social ? Why can't you save these parts in your Guild bank to hand out to new players? They do stack so it only takes up 3 slots.

I don't understand what you are complaining about.

I think it's that it's not *just* the insane drop rate to spider parts-- it's that actually getting the pet is locked behind tickets that is leading them to be frustrated. In the past (pre-last joker's festival), pets could be obtained through loot box drops, or assembled from pieces that dropped, swapped with guildies and other players, or bought from guild traders. You can now have guildies with 100's of spider parts, but they can't help anyone else get the pet because assembly instructions are locked behind 5 tickets. Considering there's only 3 tickets per day, that's two days worth of tickets and log-ins, non-negotiable, just to get a pet that in previous events could be had with NO tickets at all, if you were lucky or other players helped you out.

Only one Saberkeel page will drop per day--the rest can be bought for tickets, or an exorbitant amount of gold since ZOS decided to inflate their rarity which shuts out anyone new to the game & most casual players.

Every ticketed event since ZOS started running them has always had more stuff available to purchase for tickets than tickets available during the event-- but, if you ground out the content, you could still complete your sets, help guildies, sell extras, and have tickets to spare. The 2022 Jester's festival with the now nigh-impossible to obtain sovereign sow (converted to bound fragments, and no longer tradeable), was the start of AGGRESSIVELY gate-keeping & excluding players from obtaining event content. Other players could help you out in previous events, it helped strengthen the community. If a player tries to help someone in THIS event, it is directly harmful to their own ability to complete event content, with the exception of 1:1 swaps of saberkeel.

The way ZOS has organized the drops for this event, and locked the event pet behind a ticket wall, is absolutely harmful to players who are new, casual, or with real life commitments that cannot be skipped, postponed, or missed. Guildies cannot help you--except with spider parts which every has too many of, and it STILL won't give you the pet. Saberkeel pages will not drop more no matter how many boxes you open, and if RNG isn't kind, you will have to use tickets to complete the set, buy it with HUGE amount of in-game gold, or pray you get lucky trying to swap dupes. That's not including the 10 tickets required for EACH of the 2 pieces of the new quasi-griff mount, or the fact that the worm-cult motif is now ONLY available in ticketed grab-bags.

This year's jubilee event is the most aggressively monetized, exclusionary, and time-gated event that ESO has ever had in my memory, and I've played ESO in some form since 2017. I hope they reconsider what they're doing and how they run events, because it's a very troubling direction to be moving towards.

Tickets can be bought for Crowns. The rest of the math is simple.

alberichtano

NettleCarrier wrote: »

GuildedLilly wrote: »

I don't understand what you are saying. What ' Change ' to the event pet is anti-social ? Why can't you save these parts in your Guild bank to hand out to new players? They do stack so it only takes up 3 slots.

I don't understand what you are complaining about.

I think it's that it's not *just* the insane drop rate to spider parts-- it's that actually getting the pet is locked behind tickets that is leading them to be frustrated. In the past (pre-last joker's festival), pets could be obtained through loot box drops, or assembled from pieces that dropped, swapped with guildies and other players, or bought from guild traders. You can now have guildies with 100's of spider parts, but they can't help anyone else get the pet because assembly instructions are locked behind 5 tickets. Considering there's only 3 tickets per day, that's two days worth of tickets and log-ins, non-negotiable, just to get a pet that in previous events could be had with NO tickets at all, if you were lucky or other players helped you out.

Only one Saberkeel page will drop per day--the rest can be bought for tickets, or an exorbitant amount of gold since ZOS decided to inflate their rarity which shuts out anyone new to the game & most casual players.

Every ticketed event since ZOS started running them has always had more stuff available to purchase for tickets than tickets available during the event-- but, if you ground out the content, you could still complete your sets, help guildies, sell extras, and have tickets to spare. The 2022 Jester's festival with the now nigh-impossible to obtain sovereign sow (converted to bound fragments, and no longer tradeable), was the start of AGGRESSIVELY gate-keeping & excluding players from obtaining event content. Other players could help you out in previous events, it helped strengthen the community. If a player tries to help someone in THIS event, it is directly harmful to their own ability to complete event content, with the exception of 1:1 swaps of saberkeel.

The way ZOS has organized the drops for this event, and locked the event pet behind a ticket wall, is absolutely harmful to players who are new, casual, or with real life commitments that cannot be skipped, postponed, or missed. Guildies cannot help you--except with spider parts which every has too many of, and it STILL won't give you the pet. Saberkeel pages will not drop more no matter how many boxes you open, and if RNG isn't kind, you will have to use tickets to complete the set, buy it with HUGE amount of in-game gold, or pray you get lucky trying to swap dupes. That's not including the 10 tickets required for EACH of the 2 pieces of the new quasi-griff mount, or the fact that the worm-cult motif is now ONLY available in ticketed grab-bags.

This year's jubilee event is the most aggressively monetized, exclusionary, and time-gated event that ESO has ever had in my memory, and I've played ESO in some form since 2017. I hope they reconsider what they're doing and how they run events, because it's a very troubling direction to be moving towards.

I hear this over and over on the forums and it baffles me... I'm struggling to sell the Saberkeel pages on PC-NA for 50k, how is this price "exorbitant"? Because it isn't free? Cadwell's pages were more than that even at the end of the Jester's event and they were a multi-year return. This event literally vomits gold at players and so to complain at anything at all under 100k just makes my head hurt.

Complaints about the pet are valid, they just don't bother me because I have 160+ non-combat pets already and I'll only spend the tickets if there's literally nothing else I want to buy.

They are below 50K NOW. They will probably rise a lot after the event.