What is the highest Gold Per Hour you can grind in ESO?

  • Vaoh
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    There are two “best” activities imo.

    Carries are the best overall method. You are essentially being paid to play the game. Almost feels like getting large sums of gold for free.

    Flipping yields the largest rewards of any other method. However, it is very time-consuming and requires lots of knowledge of the market.
  • Rasande_Robin
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    Get a job at Mc-donalds buy crowns, sell gifts... Flip Guild-Traders, have luck solo farm ic bosses with all districts controlled and with x4 tel-var bonus. All of these can easily make you earn more than a Mil gold/h.
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  • Lysette
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    pelle412 wrote: »
    Cuddlypuff wrote: »
    Other significant gold farms off the top of my head:
    - 2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)
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    How do you do this? I only have 1 account with 18 characters and just the load screen from character select into the game and logging back out would be about 45 mins to an hour for me and that is one account only.

    PC players have addons and better performance than even PS5 players. Basically they can do writs 2-3x faster than we can. Just one more reason why they have mass inflation on their server though.

    There is actually no inflation worth mentioning - just a few highly in demand items are soaring, but overall prices are not that much higher than they have been a year ago - people just see the highly in demand stuff, but for it to be a true inflation, prices all over the board would have to soar - and that is just not the case.

    Exchange rate of gold to crown does not count, that is not an in game item and there is no official way of it to even be a true exchange, it is gifting gold for getting a gift in return - can go well, could be a scam either - that is on a meta level, not part of the ingame economy.
    Edited by Lysette on April 12, 2022 1:43PM
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  • w002exp
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    You can make 100K/hour or more doing crime but you need to build for it. I run two characters/day and get about 55-60k just from selling to fence and 5-10K from safebox gold. But if your character is built for it you should also do the daily TG Heist and the daily DB Sacrement which both drop popular motifs and you can finish each in under a minute. They also drop armor sets that are only acquireable through the daily in certain weights which are important for sticker book collectors, those items sell for over 100k. Also, pickpocketing drops several unique furnishings that sell well, including the Kahjit skooma bubbler which is popular. Lastly before you break down your whites you should see if you can turn them in for one more free daily in CW city which also yields a motif.

    It's definitely a lot more than people think for a small investment, just hard to measure because you won't get the same stuff each day.
  • Vaoh
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    pelle412 wrote: »
    Cuddlypuff wrote: »
    Other significant gold farms off the top of my head:
    - 2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)
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    How do you do this? I only have 1 account with 18 characters and just the load screen from character select into the game and logging back out would be about 45 mins to an hour for me and that is one account only.

    PC players have addons and better performance than even PS5 players. Basically they can do writs 2-3x faster than we can. Just one more reason why they have mass inflation on their server though.

    There is actually no inflation worth mentioning - just a few highly in demand items are soaring, but overall prices are not that much higher than they have been a year ago - people just see the highly in demand stuff, but for it to be a true inflation, prices all over the board would have to soar - and that is just not the case.

    Exchange rate of gold to crown does not count, that is not an in game item and there is no official way of it to even be a true exchange, it is gifting gold for getting a gift in return - can go well, could be a scam either - that is on a meta level, not part of the ingame economy.

    Sorry should have been more specific, I was referring to the difference between PC and console markets. PC has significantly more gold circulating so prices are higher to compensate.

    In a way though Crowns and Gold are directly connected..... For example you can purchase pages for a new dungeon motif chapter on a trader, or purchase the full book from a crown seller. I know that on my server it’s way cheaper to just buy a full book from a crown seller for 450k gold rather than jump around every trader in the game+paying 150%-200% or more additional gold. It can take years before the prices are comparable and that is not considering the convenience of being handed the full book.

    Edited by Vaoh on April 12, 2022 4:20PM
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    This is tough to answer and depends on how you define grind. I can do 18 toons of writs in under an hour. That will net roughly 100k gold, and roughly 6 of each gold mat (roughly 1/3 drop rate). I think that is half a mil easy with todays prices, maybe more. That doesn't count surveys or master writs.

    If you define grind as something that can be done at any time all day long with reliable and predictable gold, I think you are going to struggle to get anywhere near that number. One exception might be if you are really good at farming telvar, but even that is a stretch depending on your definition.

    Lots of things you can do to generate fast gold, buy/sell, sell XP runs, farm a specific item, sell weapon or achiev carries, but those all take a buyer and seller and other the BOE, gear, cant be listed in a trader,. Some also take a bit a of luck Not sure I would call these gold grinds. I sold several Tzogvin infernos at 500k a pop right after stickerbook. The run it self would take 10-15minutes, but saying I was making 3 million an hour is not realistic.
    Cuddlypuff wrote: »
    Other significant gold farms off the top of my head:
    - 2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)
    - During undaunted celebration, doing a skippable dungeon like vet direfrost in a duo takes 2 mins a run for a cheap opal page + chance at opal weapon page
    - Opening 1 key DLC shoulder boxes during undaunted celebration gives a ton of opal weapon pages worth millions each
    - Selling new rewards of the worthy / elite pvp gear on release (personally made ~100m on DCon/Hrothgar/Plaguebreak launch, ~50m on recent Rallying cry launch)

    Those numbers sound a touch unrealistic to me for writs to me. 36 toons in 45 minutes is not real life as your logins would take more time that that unless you are sitting in ZOSs server room. 60 seconds in game plus 60 seconds to login and logout would put you over an hour, and even that is a stretch at times (load screens vary). 18 writs in 45 is very doable, but not 36. The reward values sound high to me as well.

    I would also like to see you duo vet direfrost in 2 minutes, or more accurately, do it it say 10 times in 20 minutes. Again, seems to be a stretch.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    pelle412 wrote: »
    Cuddlypuff wrote: »
    Other significant gold farms off the top of my head:
    - 2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)
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    How do you do this? I only have 1 account with 18 characters and just the load screen from character select into the game and logging back out would be about 45 mins to an hour for me and that is one account only.

    PC players have addons and better performance than even PS5 players. Basically they can do writs 2-3x faster than we can. Just one more reason why they have mass inflation on their server though.

    There is actually no inflation worth mentioning - just a few highly in demand items are soaring, but overall prices are not that much higher than they have been a year ago - people just see the highly in demand stuff, but for it to be a true inflation, prices all over the board would have to soar - and that is just not the case.

    Exchange rate of gold to crown does not count, that is not an in game item and there is no official way of it to even be a true exchange, it is gifting gold for getting a gift in return - can go well, could be a scam either - that is on a meta level, not part of the ingame economy.

    I disagree with pretty much everything you said, but not going to get into yet another inflation debate on these forums.
  • FeedbackOnly
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    Enough gold to be happy when I need it.
    Edited by FeedbackOnly on April 12, 2022 9:01PM
  • tmbrinks
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    Cuddlypuff wrote: »
    Other significant gold farms off the top of my head:
    - 2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)
    - During undaunted celebration, doing a skippable dungeon like vet direfrost in a duo takes 2 mins a run for a cheap opal page + chance at opal weapon page
    - Opening 1 key DLC shoulder boxes during undaunted celebration gives a ton of opal weapon pages worth millions each
    - Selling new rewards of the worthy / elite pvp gear on release (personally made ~100m on DCon/Hrothgar/Plaguebreak launch, ~50m on recent Rallying cry launch)

    Those numbers sound a touch unrealistic to me for writs to me. 36 toons in 45 minutes is not real life as your logins would take more time that that unless you are sitting in ZOSs server room. 60 seconds in game plus 60 seconds to login and logout would put you over an hour, and even that is a stretch at times (load screens vary). 18 writs in 45 is very doable, but not 36. The reward values sound high to me as well.

    I would also like to see you duo vet direfrost in 2 minutes, or more accurately, do it it say 10 times in 20 minutes. Again, seems to be a stretch.

    Running two instances of the game side by side, I have done all 36 in the past in just over 50 minutes. So it's definitely feasible. Load screens basically don't matter in that situation as one is loading while you're doing writs on the others.

    Agree on the prices being high. Lazy Writ Crafter's "estimate" of value of writs is quite exaggerated.
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  • Nestor
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but believe some of the carry sellers earn millions for not even an hours time...
    The best of them that is..

    That is usually split among the other 10 or 11 players doing the carrying.
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  • WiseSky
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    This poll has a major problem: Most of the things mentioned are highly situational, not always available, require RNG or already need a certain amount of gold to even start.

    You can't tell a new player "Buy X for 500k and sell it for 900k" or "Participate in this (not always active) event and sell the (random) loot for Y profit".
    Doing writs may be fixed and given every day but you can only complete them once per day per character and after that it's done.

    If you want a list of ongoing activities that you can do all day every day you may need another poll.

    yeah I agree the poll has people saying how selling crowns is a way to earn 1m+
    and others saying how carries are are also 1m+ but that is not sustained.

  • Cuddlypuff
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    Cuddlypuff wrote: »
    Other significant gold farms off the top of my head:
    - 2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)
    - During undaunted celebration, doing a skippable dungeon like vet direfrost in a duo takes 2 mins a run for a cheap opal page + chance at opal weapon page
    - Opening 1 key DLC shoulder boxes during undaunted celebration gives a ton of opal weapon pages worth millions each
    - Selling new rewards of the worthy / elite pvp gear on release (personally made ~100m on DCon/Hrothgar/Plaguebreak launch, ~50m on recent Rallying cry launch)

    Those numbers sound a touch unrealistic to me for writs to me. 36 toons in 45 minutes is not real life as your logins would take more time that that unless you are sitting in ZOSs server room. 60 seconds in game plus 60 seconds to login and logout would put you over an hour, and even that is a stretch at times (load screens vary). 18 writs in 45 is very doable, but not 36. The reward values sound high to me as well.

    I would also like to see you duo vet direfrost in 2 minutes, or more accurately, do it it say 10 times in 20 minutes. Again, seems to be a stretch. [/quote]

    If you've done writs on 2 accounts before you would probably know that 18 writs takes the same times as 36, precisely due to load screens. Direfrost is just a matter of your character's run speed. Wild hunt to the final boss and balorgh toggle it down.
  • WiseSky
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    Cuddlypuff wrote: »

    2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)

    Unless this document says 5m that then I cant believe you can make that much

    @tmbrinks

    Could you let us know the max min you can make crafting with a set of 18 chars maxed with no event?
  • tmbrinks
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    WiseSky wrote: »
    Cuddlypuff wrote: »

    2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)

    Unless this document says 5m that then I cant believe you can make that much

    @tmbrinks

    Could you let us know the max min you can make crafting with a set of 18 chars maxed with no event?

    At the current prices (which I actually updated 3 days ago), you can make about 48m a month doing writs on 36 characters for a whole month. So divide that by 30, so 1.6m for 36 characters in a day. Or 800k for 18. Give or take.

    Lazy Writs stats have long been off because they don't take into account things like crafting cost of master writs, just assuming they're worth what you can sell the vouchers for with no crafting involved, which is completely false. Especially for several master writs which are negative gold if you actually do them.

    Note: This is at the PC/NA prices. Prices could be different on other servers (only PC/EU would be higher possibly, with all 4 console servers significantly less)
    Edited by tmbrinks on April 13, 2022 1:00AM
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  • Cuddlypuff
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    WiseSky wrote: »
    Cuddlypuff wrote: »

    2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)

    Unless this document says 5m that then I cant believe you can make that much

    @tmbrinks

    Could you let us know the max min you can make crafting with a set of 18 chars maxed with no event?

    At the current prices (which I actually updated 3 days ago), you can make about 48m a month doing writs on 36 characters for a whole month. So divide that by 30, so 1.6m for 36 characters in a day. Or 800k for 18. Give or take.

    Lazy Writs stats have long been off because they don't take into account things like crafting cost of master writs, just assuming they're worth what you can sell the vouchers for with no crafting involved, which is completely false. Especially for several master writs which are negative gold if you actually do them.

    Note: This is at the PC/NA prices. Prices could be different on other servers (only PC/EU would be higher possibly, with all 4 console servers significantly less)

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    This is what I was referring to for 1 account of 18 chars, but I do agree the values seem off for a couple of the rewards.
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    Cuddlypuff wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    WiseSky wrote: »
    Cuddlypuff wrote: »

    2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)

    Unless this document says 5m that then I cant believe you can make that much

    @tmbrinks

    Could you let us know the max min you can make crafting with a set of 18 chars maxed with no event?

    At the current prices (which I actually updated 3 days ago), you can make about 48m a month doing writs on 36 characters for a whole month. So divide that by 30, so 1.6m for 36 characters in a day. Or 800k for 18. Give or take.

    Lazy Writs stats have long been off because they don't take into account things like crafting cost of master writs, just assuming they're worth what you can sell the vouchers for with no crafting involved, which is completely false. Especially for several master writs which are negative gold if you actually do them.

    Note: This is at the PC/NA prices. Prices could be different on other servers (only PC/EU would be higher possibly, with all 4 console servers significantly less)

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    This is what I was referring to for 1 account of 18 chars, but I do agree the values seem off for a couple of the rewards.

    Yeah, I look at those too with mine... they are overestimating by at least a factor of 2 in my opinion based on what I've calculated I actually make
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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Cuddlypuff wrote: »
    Other significant gold farms off the top of my head:
    - 2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)
    - During undaunted celebration, doing a skippable dungeon like vet direfrost in a duo takes 2 mins a run for a cheap opal page + chance at opal weapon page
    - Opening 1 key DLC shoulder boxes during undaunted celebration gives a ton of opal weapon pages worth millions each
    - Selling new rewards of the worthy / elite pvp gear on release (personally made ~100m on DCon/Hrothgar/Plaguebreak launch, ~50m on recent Rallying cry launch)

    Those numbers sound a touch unrealistic to me for writs to me. 36 toons in 45 minutes is not real life as your logins would take more time that that unless you are sitting in ZOSs server room. 60 seconds in game plus 60 seconds to login and logout would put you over an hour, and even that is a stretch at times (load screens vary). 18 writs in 45 is very doable, but not 36. The reward values sound high to me as well.

    I would also like to see you duo vet direfrost in 2 minutes, or more accurately, do it it say 10 times in 20 minutes. Again, seems to be a stretch.

    Running two instances of the game side by side, I have done all 36 in the past in just over 50 minutes. So it's definitely feasible. Load screens basically don't matter in that situation as one is loading while you're doing writs on the others.

    Agree on the prices being high. Lazy Writ Crafter's "estimate" of value of writs is quite exaggerated.

    @tmbrinks
    Fair enough. Guess I didn't consider multiple instances of the game simultaneously. Do you do that on the same PC or on two separate PCs?
  • tmbrinks
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Cuddlypuff wrote: »
    Other significant gold farms off the top of my head:
    - 2 accounts of 18 writs takes about 45 mins and gives about 5M in rewards all up (according to lazy writ crafter stats)
    - During undaunted celebration, doing a skippable dungeon like vet direfrost in a duo takes 2 mins a run for a cheap opal page + chance at opal weapon page
    - Opening 1 key DLC shoulder boxes during undaunted celebration gives a ton of opal weapon pages worth millions each
    - Selling new rewards of the worthy / elite pvp gear on release (personally made ~100m on DCon/Hrothgar/Plaguebreak launch, ~50m on recent Rallying cry launch)

    Those numbers sound a touch unrealistic to me for writs to me. 36 toons in 45 minutes is not real life as your logins would take more time that that unless you are sitting in ZOSs server room. 60 seconds in game plus 60 seconds to login and logout would put you over an hour, and even that is a stretch at times (load screens vary). 18 writs in 45 is very doable, but not 36. The reward values sound high to me as well.

    I would also like to see you duo vet direfrost in 2 minutes, or more accurately, do it it say 10 times in 20 minutes. Again, seems to be a stretch.

    Running two instances of the game side by side, I have done all 36 in the past in just over 50 minutes. So it's definitely feasible. Load screens basically don't matter in that situation as one is loading while you're doing writs on the others.

    Agree on the prices being high. Lazy Writ Crafter's "estimate" of value of writs is quite exaggerated.

    @tmbrinks
    Fair enough. Guess I didn't consider multiple instances of the game simultaneously. Do you do that on the same PC or on two separate PCs?

    I did it on the same PC (I even duplicated my LWC add-on and changed the naming so there were no saved variables conflicts between the two accounts). Running in on two machines would be even faster (as the character load has a phase that really bogs down the PC).

    I haven't done it like that in at least 18 months now, haven't even done writs on the alt account for close to a year I think.
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