Dark Convergence

doesurmindglow

prof_doom wrote: »

doesurmindglow wrote: »

CaptainVenom wrote: »

People still complain about Dark Convergence? Jeez...

It's receiving a buff on PTS so yes, people are responding to the proposed changes that will make it much more prevalent again in PVP.

Which, to be fair, is a terrible idea. We lost a tremendous amount of players during that meta, and it became challenging to find decent fights outside of primetime in open world PVP. We should not replicate that failure.

The solution, as always, is simple. Separate PVP and PVE values for gear/skills.
Yes, buffing Dark Convergence is toxic in PVP. Not buffing Dark Convergence leaves it barely useful in PVE.
So no matter what, one group is going to be unhappy.

Not a bad solution, honestly. I don't know that the use case in PVE is significant enough to override the toxicity of the set in PVP, but a solution that makes it viable but not overpowered for both would be fine.

OWLTHEMAD

I dont understand the hate behind this set.

Its a nuisance to be sure, but hardly insurmountable.

Its fairly easy to avoid and/or escape.

I just dont get whats wrong with it.

Excelsus

The solution is simple. Everyone run Dark Convergence and Baron Thirsk on a Harmony Necro... with vicious death. Make all the things go boom.

etchedpixels

OWLTHEMAD wrote: »

I dont understand the hate behind this set.

Its a nuisance to be sure, but hardly insurmountable.

Its fairly easy to avoid and/or escape.

I just dont get whats wrong with it.

Because when you've got the kind of people who it should be used on present your skills fire erraticallly and there is 3 seconds of lag. At that point DC rubber bands people, blocking and dodging don't fire for several seconds and so on.

If PvP lag actually got fixed it might not be so bad.

It is however still hugely overpowered in PvE. I should not be able to clock over 200k dps on trash packs with a far from optimal PvE stam warden using it; especially given the fact it is going to get a boost in U33

OWLTHEMAD

etchedpixels wrote: »

OWLTHEMAD wrote: »

I dont understand the hate behind this set.

Its a nuisance to be sure, but hardly insurmountable.

Its fairly easy to avoid and/or escape.

I just dont get whats wrong with it.

Because when you've got the kind of people who it should be used on present your skills fire erraticallly and there is 3 seconds of lag. At that point DC rubber bands people, blocking and dodging don't fire for several seconds and so on.

If PvP lag actually got fixed it might not be so bad.

It is however still hugely overpowered in PvE. I should not be able to clock over 200k dps on trash packs with a far from optimal PvE stam warden using it; especially given the fact it is going to get a boost in U33

Op in pve? You dont say. . . Think its useful in black rose? Now i want to abuse it

TechMaybeHic

It's a little known fact that when you kill a zergling, their bowels relax and they release a dark convergence proc all over the area around them.

Kelinmiriel

alexoop wrote: »

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Please leave gender comments out of your insults.

There are four ESO players in my household, who've all been playing 5 years now. The two wives (one of which is myself) run guilds, help new players, are involved in many aspects of the game - and I'm constantly trying to learn more about Lua to improve my addon. The two husbands are the more casual players who just enjoy picking flowers and playing solo. (Which is fine; no shame on them. Everyone should play as they wish.)

I really appreciate the diversity of people in this game - almost half are women, there's a wide range of ages, and they come from all over, speak many languages. We're all gamers at heart. Thanks for your time and consideration.

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RitualSmoke

The damage doesnt even matter in my opinion it will still get used with no damage, Necros be wrecking with graveyard colossus stacking on this its all about the pull, grab a bunch of people for a calculated burst the extra damage is just icing. is there a set that was designed for something that didn't get used another way? it seems that they need to adjust base game more than individual sets.

give penalties to large groups on healing in the back end or some other hard rule to encourage more small scale combat. introducing a specific set doesn't have enough control on how its used to guarantee an intended result

newtinmpls

Question:

The set is apparently triggered by "casting abilities that leave a ground effect" my question is that does this get triggered by ANYONE casting a ground effect or by the wearer casting a ground effect?

I'm getting murdilated regularly in Battlegrounds by this (and likely also Plaguebreak) and I still don't entirely understand what is happening

Necrotech_Master

newtinmpls wrote: »

Question:

The set is apparently triggered by "casting abilities that leave a ground effect" my question is that does this get triggered by ANYONE casting a ground effect or by the wearer casting a ground effect?

I'm getting murdilated regularly in Battlegrounds by this (and likely also Plaguebreak) and I still don't entirely understand what is happening

it is only triggered from the person who has the set equipped

but this means that said person who uses a synergy from someone else usually will trigger the proc (even effects that dont leave an effect on the ground such as the plaguebreak explosion, or synergies like the boneyard synergy or fear totem synergy can still trigger dark convergence)

DrSlaughtr

I've come to terms with the fact that the set is doing what they want, and maybe not even as well as they want, so all these threads just continue to have no effect.

The only people running these sets are ball groups and mini zergs to grief people.