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It's Time For Dungeon Leaderboards

SupremeRissole
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Please read the whole proposal before commenting.

With the prospect of achievements (and possibly titles) being made account-wide, and in conjunction with the gear sticker-book, there will be less replayability in dungeons.

To add a new layer of replayability, I propose that all DLC dungeons have leaderboard mechanics/scores added to them.
This will give the endgame community a whole new experience and will be even more benefitial for those who either can't find a whole raid group to play at the same time, or can't/don't want to commit to a full raid team.

To prevent the 'toxicity' (that many players complain about in endgame players) spreading into your average player's daily pledge, this added feature should NOT apply to groups formed in the group finder tool. Groups wishing to push for a scored run will need to travel directly into the dungeon, like we already see with trials and arenas.

The leaderboards would be active for all DLC dungeons, with a 'weekly' leaderboard rotating, giving gold jewelry to those who make it on there. This may slightly reduce the number of players in PvP due to a slightly reduced reason to farm AP, however with each character only getting 1 or 2 pieces of jewelry from one of 3 sets from one the ever growing list of DLC dungeons it will still be a significant grind and therefore the golden vendor will still have it's place.

In summary, apart from the daily DLC pledge, there isn't many completing these dungeons, which is sad because in my opinion it's some of the best designed content in the game. Once players have collected all the gear in their sticjer books and have the title given across all characters, this will only get worse. This is quite a simple feature to add to the game with lot's of benefits to many players and very few (if any) drawbacks.

  • Necrotech_Master
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    arena have leaderboards, so i dont see why dungeon couldnt be added to the leaderboards to add some more 4 player content leaderboards

    especially since most of the time leaderboards dont really matter, they dont even have to give rewards either and people will do them
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  • Dragonnord
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    This will give the endgame community a whole new experience...

    How? If leaderboards are constantly wiped out with every patch. Why would I want to be in the leaderboards that weeks later are erased? Do you remember who was on first spot on Vateshran Hollows 3 months ago?

    However, if leaderboards are NEVER removed then that would be different as the leaderboards would be always displaying the best players of all time and poeple would be competing to earn spots on the different tables of positions.
     
    Edited by Dragonnord on January 28, 2022 12:24AM
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  • AlnilamE
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    Dragonnord wrote: »
    This will give the endgame community a whole new experience...

    How? If leaderboards are constantly wiped out with every patch. Why would I want to be in the leaderboards that weeks later are erased? Do you remember who was on first spot on Vateshran Hollows 3 months ago?

    However, if leaderboards are NEVER removed then that would be different as the leaderboards would be always displaying the best players of all time and poeple would be competing to earn spots on the different tables of positions.
     

    I don't think I've actually looked at leaderboards in years...
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  • BahometZ
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    Dungeon leaderboards would be great, regardless whether the achievement/title change goes ahead. I really like the idea of more engagement for veteran players. Are you thinking it would operate like the weekly trial? With a gold drop and transmute?

    I am very enthused.

    Dragonnord, a lot of endgame players keep tabs on patch leaderboards, and some modicum of respect is paid to players who are on their regularly.

    On top of that, most of that community is much more active on discord, not on these forums, so bear in mind you might not get as much engagement here. Much like the account wide titles, the view expressed on these forums do not represent the player base most affected by the change.
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  • Amottica
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    I would suggest that overall dungeons do not offer a challenge worthy of a leaderboard. It is not even close. They are not worthy.

    For those who do not want to, or for some odd reason cannot commit to a full raid group there are the arenas.
  • BahometZ
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    It's not about the challenge of completion, it's the challenge of getting top score though.

    I also would find it hilarious to have a world record for vet Fungal Grotto 1.
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  • barney2525
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    I would settle just for dungeon leaders.


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  • spartaxoxo
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    I like this idea. I'm not as sold as the gold jewelry being the reward, but I'm struggling to think of a better one. I just don't like the idea of PVP having the golden lose even more value, as it's already not the best.

  • spartaxoxo
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    Amottica wrote: »
    I would suggest that overall dungeons do not offer a challenge worthy of a leaderboard. It is not even close. They are not worthy.

    For those who do not want to, or for some odd reason cannot commit to a full raid group there are the arenas.

    How odd. Bowling isn't a hard game. However, being the best bowler in your nation is hard to do.
  • peacenote
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    I would like to see this implemented either way. I'm surprised it hasn't come up more frequently. It would be especially great if we would get a chance for e-mail rewards that are golden gear, motifs or a chance for that dungeon's style mask.

    I don't agree that it shouldn't count if you enter through dungeon finder though. I have had some great magic happen with DF. The chance that you could do a random and hit the leader board would be fun.
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  • spartaxoxo
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    peacenote wrote: »
    I would like to see this implemented either way. I'm surprised it hasn't come up more frequently. It would be especially great if we would get a chance for e-mail rewards that are golden gear, motifs or a chance for that dungeon's style mask.

    I don't agree that it shouldn't count if you enter through dungeon finder though. I have had some great magic happen with DF. The chance that you could do a random and hit the leader board would be fun.

    The not apply to dungeon finder thing I actually agree with and is what makes me support the idea, honestly. I have also had great experiences with DF, but I also think that it would probably introduce more toxic behavior than good behavior to it imo.
  • Hamiltonmath
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    YES! Definitely a good idea. Points for killing each add, points for HM, boss damage etc. Gold jewelry to drop or as a reward! I'm so in. Great idea.
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