How Will ESO Influence Elder Scrolls 6?

Tornaad

With Elder Scrolls 6 being developed right now (or at least soon) it leaves me to wonder, what elements of ESO will influence Elder Scrolls 6?
One thing I hope to see carry over from ESO to Elder Scrolls 6 is the armor set bonuses. I think that would be fun to see in a single player Elder Scrolls game. What about you?

phaneub17_ESO

It'll be like Skyrim just better graphics and next gen Creation Kit. The Creation Kit can do a lot, making set bonuses on there isn't hard at all. I've done some crazy things with my Perk Trees to make use of the infinite leveling like cross weapon and spell synergies across the board, situational bonuses much like the CP board does, and new abilities tied in with actions like blocking or bashing.

Elsonso

My guess is that TES6 game play will be based on Skyrim/Fallout4/Starfield, as this is the engine heritage.

ESO will contribute Lore, but it will be books and random dialog, as the main story will concern itself with the period at hand and recent events since Skyrim.

Tornaad

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

It'll be like Skyrim just better graphics and next gen Creation Kit. The Creation Kit can do a lot, making set bonuses on there isn't hard at all. I've done some crazy things with my Perk Trees to make use of the infinite leveling like cross weapon and spell synergies across the board, situational bonuses much like the CP board does, and new abilities tied in with actions like blocking or bashing.

I would have to disagree with the idea that it will be like Skyrim. That would break from their pattern.

Amberken

I hope it won't.

K9002

Armor set bonuses were already a thing in Skyrim. Ahzidal's relics - 4 armor pieces and 2 rings, wearing any 4 was required to activate the set bonus. I think Kagrenac's tools in Morrowind can be considered a set too, if only because Wraithguard was required to wield Sunder. I really hope it remains a quirk of some unique items that doesn't outclass custom items made with the enchanting system.

I can hardly think of anything I would like to carry over, especially not any of the writing and lore. IMO ESO has four things over any proper TES game:
1. Fences can launder stolen items. That makes perfect sense for cleaning generic items like food, ingredients, arrows and so on.
2. Poisons have a dedicated equipment slot.
3. Swappable hairstyles, face paints and other makeup that are separate from full-body surgery.
4. Houses are decorated with items that can't be accidentally knocked around (I know it was like this in Morrowind too). Fallout 4 already has a mod that adds this functionality and I expect to see something like this in TES 6 either on release or shortly after.

Amottica

Other than some aspects concerning lore I expect it will be set as a single-player game like the other single-player TES games. Each is a little different ofc.

Franchise408

Hopefully none. For the enjoyment I do get from ESO, if this is how the TES single player games were, it wouldn't be my favorite series of all time.

From the lack of challenge in questing, to the rigid build structure, over the top combat skills, I really hope ESO has little to no influence on TES6.

The only thing I might like to see in TES6 is the outfit / style page system

Brodart12367

The above replies are a bit frustrating, though I understand not wanting gameplay stuff to carry over, and I'm in agreement on that. That said though, ESO has done more for the lore of the series than any game since Morrowind, and I think that shouldn't be ignored or spit on. So I hope TES VI will take a lot of the lore added from ESO and do interesting things with it

etchedpixels

Zuboko wrote: »

With Elder Scrolls 6 being developed right now (or at least soon) it leaves me to wonder, what elements of ESO will influence Elder Scrolls 6?

I think its very difficult to say given that we are probably at least a decade out from a new ESO game and by then who knows what ESO will look like 8)

Konstant_Tel_Necris

I would really like to see more armor slots in TESVI like ESO have over Skyrim, common why pauldrons, belt, greaves and cuirass were merged into one?
ESO also have working concept of Light, Medium and Heavy armors.
Classes returned and have unique features, that's great, I hope TESVI will also have them but allow switch and customize them in game via guilds and trainers.
Another cool thing that's attributes in ESO have more behind them than in Skyrim, like Stamina used for dodge rolls and break free and sneak for example and affect weapon damage.
New weapon abilities like ESO weapon skills but launched like combos from Skyrim, like moving backward with bow to make power attack into Scatter Shot
Balanced crafting, really ESO did it better than Skyrim especially culinary.
Enemies that's using special abilities in combat, remember how those khajiit brigands use acrobatics to move away from player attack or jump over your head to backstab?
Guilds that's have own unique skills and perks that's also great feature.
Unique bosses, ESO, have many great examples of such.

Sylvermynx

I want to say "I HOPE it won't" - but honestly.... at this point I'm doubtful I'll be able to play it when (IF) it releases - I'm 74, if it's a decade or more down the road... well....

I hope I'm still playing games when it releases. But I'm not really thinking that's likely. For all I know, it will release as a VR thing.... and considering the vertigo I deal with ever day of my life.... do you REALLY think I'm going to be able to manage a VR TES VI?

I don't. *sigh*

fall0athboy

I'm just hoping there's no multiplayer.

Tornaad

Konstant_Tel_Necris wrote: »

I would really like to see more armor slots in TESVI like ESO have over Skyrim, common why pauldrons, belt, greaves and cuirass were merged into one?
ESO also have working concept of Light, Medium and Heavy armors.
Classes returned and have unique features, that's great, I hope TESVI will also have them but allow switch and customize them in game via guilds and trainers.
Another cool thing that's attributes in ESO have more behind them than in Skyrim, like Stamina used for dodge rolls and break free and sneak for example and affect weapon damage.
New weapon abilities like ESO weapon skills but launched like combos from Skyrim, like moving backward with bow to make power attack into Scatter Shot
Balanced crafting, really ESO did it better than Skyrim especially culinary.
Enemies that's using special abilities in combat, remember how those khajiit brigands use acrobatics to move away from player attack or jump over your head to backstab?
Guilds that's have own unique skills and perks that's also great feature.
Unique bosses, ESO, have many great examples of such.

I could enjoy all of those in ES6

Saxhleel

None really. Everything I would say was already done better in previous games, like Daggerfall, Morrowind, or Oblivion. Take classes for example. Daggerfall had the best class system for an actual RPG, but Morrowind or Oblivion has a better system matching the modern games.

Nanfoodle

Co Op and like Skyrim, we will see something we didn't think we would.

dem0n1k

I hope ES6 has the note from the bottom of the waterfall right next to the Faragyle mine. On the rock that is beside the skeleton.

BloodyStigmata

Well, obviously the new lore in ESO needs to be accounted for, so that's a given. New lore books, returning NPCs, antiquities and anything else along these lines could possibly be added in as nods to this game. Also, if the next game is indeed taking place in both Hammerfell and High Rock, there's also a possibility of the Daggerfall Covenant reforming, which could be really cool and an awesome way to honor ESO's additions to the timeline.

Gameplay-wise, we're looking at two completely different styles of games, and I like them both for different reasons. If I had to pick some things from ESO to influence TES 6, I wouldn't want them to be things that would detract from what makes the single-player open world experience so magical.

1. Deep character customization: Definitely one of the strong points of ESO. Obviously some of the more wild and crazy character character options wouldn't necessarily be on the table or would be few and far between, but the sheer amount of hair, beard, makeup, face and body markings for all races go a long way towards making your characters more unique.
2. weapon & Armor Variety: Add more variations to different kinds of arms and armor. The vast quantity of different styles in ESO is astounding, and while I don't expect nearly the same amount in TES 6, being able to have a lot of different options/variations available to us would go a long way when it comes to adding variety to the world. When it comes to RPG's like TES, the idea of "less is more," in my opinion, is garbage. More is more, and more allows for more role-playing opportunities, and role-playing is why we're playing RPG's.
3. The ability to morph magical skills and powers: Assuming spell making does NOT return, which it likely won't, the ability to upgrade you magical skills via using them and eventually morphing them into different kinds of spells with interesting effects is something I think TES 6 would do well to add. Say I buy fireball spell and use it a lot--after a while, maybe I can morph it into a more powerful fireball with an extra effect of my choice that tailors it to me style of play a little more.
4. More Mount Variety: I love the vast quantity of mount options in ESO, and while lore-wise I like to believe that each of them have their place in greater Tamriel and beyond, obviously they wouldn't all fit into whatever setting/art style TES 6 will be bringing to the table. That being said, TES 6 absolutely can and should add more mount variety--I don't want to cross the deserts/badlands of Hammerfell or Elsweyr on a horse, but I would like to take a camel or a senche-cat. If I'm crossing the bogs of Black Marsh or plains of southern Morrowind, maybe I'd like to ride a guar. If I'm riding through future Wrothgar and adventuring with Orcs, I want to ride a bear or etchatere. Just don't give me only horses after ESO.
5. Choice Consequence: As meaningless as many of our choices feel in ESO when it comes to questing, this game still somehow managed to do this better than Skyrim ever did (which isn't saying much). We need more branching paths in quests based on our choices that effect things in the world. They don't have to be substantial, but they do need to make us feel like we had an impact or that things could have turned out differently--maybe even rewarded us differently.

Vhozek

It shouldn't unless they for some reason have to address something from the 2nd Era.
I don't think there's anything in ESO that could be put into TES6 gameplay-wise except for maybe shrines.
ESO is a super watered down version of a TES game so it would be really silly to take 200 steps back on a game not limited to server processes.

Blacknight841

Guarantee there will be crown crates.

Eiagra

As long as it continues the trend of beefy, sexy orcs, then I'll be happy.

Oh, and I guess a giant, immersive, beautiful world to explore is good too.

Maybe this time I won't scare myself while making a troll skull wobble its jaws like Barney the Dinosaur by accidentally unsheathing my sword.

What? It was dark in that cave! And my mouse is sensitive! ...Swords are loud!

katanagirl1

I enjoyed Oblivion and Skyrim on PlayStation, and I hope I can also enjoy the next one as well. There is talk of some MS exclusivity but I don’t know if that is for sure or just conjecture.

One thing that ESO added that is an improvement over the single player games is weapon swapping. I hated hitting some enemy at point blank range with my bow ten times because I could not switch to melee weapon.

Tornaad

BloodyStigmata wrote: »

Well, obviously the new lore in ESO needs to be accounted for, so that's a given. New lore books, returning NPCs, antiquities and anything else along these lines could possibly be added in as nods to this game. Also, if the next game is indeed taking place in both Hammerfell and High Rock, there's also a possibility of the Daggerfall Covenant reforming, which could be really cool and an awesome way to honor ESO's additions to the timeline.

Gameplay-wise, we're looking at two completely different styles of games, and I like them both for different reasons. If I had to pick some things from ESO to influence TES 6, I wouldn't want them to be things that would detract from what makes the single-player open world experience so magical.

1. Deep character customization: Definitely one of the strong points of ESO. Obviously some of the more wild and crazy character character options wouldn't necessarily be on the table or would be few and far between, but the sheer amount of hair, beard, makeup, face and body markings for all races go a long way towards making your characters more unique.
2. weapon & Armor Variety: Add more variations to different kinds of arms and armor. The vast quantity of different styles in ESO is astounding, and while I don't expect nearly the same amount in TES 6, being able to have a lot of different options/variations available to us would go a long way when it comes to adding variety to the world. When it comes to RPG's like TES, the idea of "less is more," in my opinion, is garbage. More is more, and more allows for more role-playing opportunities, and role-playing is why we're playing RPG's.
3. The ability to morph magical skills and powers: Assuming spell making does NOT return, which it likely won't, the ability to upgrade you magical skills via using them and eventually morphing them into different kinds of spells with interesting effects is something I think TES 6 would do well to add. Say I buy fireball spell and use it a lot--after a while, maybe I can morph it into a more powerful fireball with an extra effect of my choice that tailors it to me style of play a little more.
4. More Mount Variety: I love the vast quantity of mount options in ESO, and while lore-wise I like to believe that each of them have their place in greater Tamriel and beyond, obviously they wouldn't all fit into whatever setting/art style TES 6 will be bringing to the table. That being said, TES 6 absolutely can and should add more mount variety--I don't want to cross the deserts/badlands of Hammerfell or Elsweyr on a horse, but I would like to take a camel or a senche-cat. If I'm crossing the bogs of Black Marsh or plains of southern Morrowind, maybe I'd like to ride a guar. If I'm riding through future Wrothgar and adventuring with Orcs, I want to ride a bear or etchatere. Just don't give me only horses after ESO.
5. Choice Consequence: As meaningless as many of our choices feel in ESO when it comes to questing, this game still somehow managed to do this better than Skyrim ever did (which isn't saying much). We need more branching paths in quests based on our choices that effect things in the world. They don't have to be substantial, but they do need to make us feel like we had an impact or that things could have turned out differently--maybe even rewarded us differently.

As much as I love the Elder Scrolls franchise, I too would love to see choices have a bigger impact.

Maya_Nur

Zuboko wrote: »

With Elder Scrolls 6 being developed right now (or at least soon) it leaves me to wonder, what elements of ESO will influence Elder Scrolls 6?
One thing I hope to see carry over from ESO to Elder Scrolls 6 is the armor set bonuses. I think that would be fun to see in a single player Elder Scrolls game. What about you?

Depending on what time period we will see in TES 6. The more distant events will be, the less common it will have with ESO.
However ESO did a great job with visuals, designes have created a great variety of armor styles, architecture and so on. The game now seems more fantasy than singleplayer games of series.

spartaxoxo

I hope it makes staves more satisfying

evymyu233

i hope TES6 have guars

FeedbackOnly

I am not interested in 6. I can't see it ever better then ESO unless spell crafting

Nisekev

Tbh I'm not expecting any positive influence. ESO messes up already messed up universe quite a bit.

Vanos444

Tes6 is a miles away...
That said ESO, won't be effect by TES6 the time line is different.

Galaen_Frost

I think we can all agree that it will have Loot Boxes.

K9002

BloodyStigmata wrote: »

Well, obviously the new lore in ESO needs to be accounted for, so that's a given.

It does not. Redguard, Battlespire and the mobile adventure games are not regarded canon. It's similar with the Fallout franchise, where the official stance is that spinoff games like Tactics and BoS are not canon either.

ESO has massive and fundamental problems with writing. Todd Howard and Kurt Kuhlmann developed the franchise (starting with Daggerfall) with the notion of unreliable narrator in mind. Pocket Guides to the Empire and many books by Imperial writers in games are full of horse dung, there are often multiple conflicting accounts, and that's done on purpose. Because every political force is selling an agenda. Because many writers saw a glimpse of something and while they were clueless about the context, it didn't prevent them from writing pseudo-scholarly treatises and pitching them to their colleagues and students at the Imperial College. Because various races can't cope with not having the greatest history ever and so they make up things about their distant past.

ESO's cardinal sin is taking all those sources 100% seriously and making all the ridiculous fantasies happen in the game for real. It went on for long enough that the game already suffers from Dragon Ball style ramping power levels and new giga-mega-universe-shattering phenomena popping up every new season. It's skooma-fueled febrile dreams brought to life.