The Firesong DLC and Update 36 base game patch are now available to test on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/pts
Maintenance for the week of October 3:
· [COMPLETE] Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – October 5, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 11:00AM EDT (15:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – October 5, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 11:00AM EDT (15:00 UTC)

Heavy Attacks acting up

PvXGamer
PvXGamer
✭✭✭
Is heavy attack feeling 'clunky' for anyone else? It wasn't quite smooth as butter prior to this current update but they were working for the most part. Post-update though, there is stuttering and even instances where the heavy attack completes itself after I've started and then let off to refresh a buff or cast something else.

EDIT 17 Nov 21

PC NA
feedback/bug report submitted - no ticket number

Since update 32 - This is in regard to BOTH Lightning Staff and Resto Staff heavy attacks. Starting a heavy attack in many instances is causing a lock-in as a full heavy attack even when you let off the mouse button in order to do another action. Transitioning into a heavy attack after another action is not working as normal in most instances when the mouse button is held down, as it is not being registered, leaving the character standing there doing nothing. This forces the player to let off the mouse button and reapply pressure to reinitiate a heavy attack action where you cannot currently be certain it will work because of stuttering or again locking into a full heavy attack without holding the button down. Releasing a heavy attack while mid-attack in combat to block, heal, or commit another action is not reliable as initiating a heavy attack is often locking into the full heavy attack animation.

EDIT 27 Nov 21

It feels like it is getting better but not much. I am not seeing the locked-in heavy attack animation nearly as often. The transition of a heavy attack into another heavy attack, or using a skill and then transitioning into a heavy attack is still random as to if it will work and I will need to reapply the attack button. I am finding that double use of a skill will 'usually' allow the transition into a heavy attack after the second skill use. The double skill use is definitely only a bandaid though.

EDIT 11 Dec 21
Heavy attack is still acting up and making the use of a lightning/resto staff unreliable in any gameplay mode. I've about given up tanking for the time being and have just been playing solo. PvP is not fun currently since I keep getting locked into heavy attacks and taking enemy weapon swings to the chin for it.

EDIT 30 Dec 21
Still acting up, just not as often. I'm finding that I am able to reproduce the issue. It does not happen 100% of the time but it does happen more often than is healthy for any heavy attack build that uses lightning/resto staves. Start with the reticule on the target, then move the reticule off of the target after starting the heavy attack. I'm posting a video of it happening. Every time I move the camera to the side, I am letting off the mouse button completely. I am only holding down on the button to initiate the heavy attack. It is possible to block and/or bash to cancel the animation, but healing and using other skills is impossible until the animation has been completed despite releasing the button.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MJnkobdzV_M
Edited by ZOS_Icy on September 9, 2022 6:02PM
  • Jeremy
    Jeremy
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    PvXGamer wrote: »
    Is heavy attack feeling 'clunky' for anyone else? It wasn't quite smooth as butter prior to this current update but they were working for the most part. Post-update though, there is stuttering and even instances where the heavy attack completes itself after I've started and then let off to refresh a buff or cast something else.

    It's been happening to me too.
  • twev
    twev
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I use Critical Rush a *lot*.

    The last few weeks it seems that, no matter where I stand w.r.t. distance from the target and well within maximum distance allowed, my attacking 'toon will frequently unsheath melee weapon, pause, resheath, and just continue to stand there.

    When that happens I have no choice but to have to mash the ability button several times before I get a full attack, and often the situation changes to my attacker being seen and getting targeted.

    It happens when attacking stationary targets, too, I checked, so it's not always a case of a moving hit-box moving outside of the targeting reticle.

    It's really thrown timing and attack success way off.
    The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.

    PC/NA
  • joerginger
    joerginger
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hardly ever work :(
  • NoxiousBlight
    NoxiousBlight
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah. Heavy attacks (On a lightning staff at least) seems to be completing even if you release them early. So once you start one the game is finishing it whether you release LMB or not.
  • Ippokrates
    Ippokrates
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah. Heavy attacks (On a lightning staff at least) seems to be completing even if you release them early. So once you start one the game is finishing it whether you release LMB or not.

    And resources? Are they back or no?
  • pdblake
    pdblake
    ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Galaen_Frost
    Galaen_Frost
    ✭✭✭
    I've been having the same issues with heavy attacks and to make things worse there is some serious delay between pressing a button and the skill going off with the PC Gamepad interface.Half a second at least.
    Wandering the lands of Tamriel, waiting for the hammer to drop.
  • Mayrael
    Mayrael
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmm... Can this cause HP desyncs? Because once I've died in a very strange way and even replay vid didn't explained it at all I have 25k hp on the vid, I recieve one 5k hit, one 7k hit and I'm dead. Nor addons, nor replay vid shows any additional hits.
    Edited by Mayrael on November 4, 2021 1:26PM

    Say no to Toxic Casuals!
    I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.


    Mael Nightshadow - that's all you need to know.
  • NoxiousBlight
    NoxiousBlight
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ippokrates wrote: »
    Yeah. Heavy attacks (On a lightning staff at least) seems to be completing even if you release them early. So once you start one the game is finishing it whether you release LMB or not.

    And resources? Are they back or no?

    Not sure. Will try and test later. But of course I can't get it to replicate right now when just yesterday it was happening constantly. I found it happened almost every fight on the duke of storms in the deadlands portals.
  • Artim_X
    Artim_X
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Definitely broken in some manner at the moment. Would love to hear about a potential hotfix for this
    (AD) Artim X |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer.
    Electric-Burn/Stun
    https://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif
    https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gif
    Damage Dealing Build.

    Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Inferno/Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build), and Power Overload.
    Ability-Bar 2: Crushing Shock/Storm Pulsar, Streak, Flame/Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Fire/Storms, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build) and Fiery/Thunderous Rage.

    Electric-Heal
    https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gif
    My Healer Build.

    Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
    Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.

    Electric-Ward
    https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gif
    My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.

    Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces Divines with Prismatic Defense Enchants. Hat or shoulder and body pieces except legs), 1 Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), full Mother Ciannait's (1 light and 1 medium), and Combat Physician jewelry (arcane with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), CP restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and CP ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).

    Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
    Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.

    Electric-Vamp
    https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gif
    Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.

    Gear: 5 Torug's Pact for regular and NoCP build/Oblivion's Foe for dot build (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable. Max Mag Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Max Mag Enchants). Knight Slayer/Pariah jewelry/Plaguebreak for dot build (arcane with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant for regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build. Sharpened for dot build)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build).
    Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
    Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor, Elusive Mist, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Empowered Ward, and Soul Assault.

    PvE Starter Gear
    https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gif
    Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap. Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).

    Race
    https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gif
    High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.

    Mundus Stones
    https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gif
    PvP: The Lover for penetration.
    PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
    PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.

    Current Champion Points
    Favorite Foods and Potions
    https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif
    Parse Food for PvE:
    (DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).

    Gold/Purple Food for PvP and Meme Tanking:
    (PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.

    Trash Potions when feeling cheap:
    Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.

    Crafted Potions:
    Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking).
  • Katlefiya
    Katlefiya
    ✭✭✭✭
    N3CR01 wrote: »
    Noticed the same thing.
    Lightning staff still going when I lift my finger off the trigger.

    Yes, here too. It is annoying to say the least. Makes you wonder what changes cause these type of bugs. FIrst the slow unsheathing of your weapon after the Q3 patch, now this...
  • aurorable
    aurorable
    ✭✭✭
    Yes I'm having the same problem. Before that patch I had no problems with weaving light or heavy attacks. Now:

    When light attacks weaving sometimes randomly my char will start to heavy attack even though I'm not holding down the mouse. And what's worse is when this happens I cannot cast any skills, the only way to stop the animation is by holding blocking + bashing combo.

    When I trying to heavy attack, my char does nothing. They will just stand there and skills stop working. I'll have to keep spamming heavy attack or block + bash combo to make my char finally attack.
    Crazy Cat Lady
    PC/NA CP2600+
    Stamsorc DPS (Master Crafter)
    DK Tank (Crafter)
    Templar Healer (Crafter)
    Templar Healer (Crafter)
    Necro Healer (Crafter)
    Warden Healer (Crafter)
    Sorc Healer (Crafter)
    Crafter
    Crafter
    Crafter
    Crafter
    Crafter
    Crafter
    Crafter
    Crafter
    Crafter
    Crafter
    And last.. but not least another crafter!
  • propertyOfUndefined
    propertyOfUndefined
    ✭✭✭✭
    Don't know if this makes sense, but my issues seem to have gone away when I disabled DLAA.
  • Katlefiya
    Katlefiya
    ✭✭✭✭
    Don't know if this makes sense, but my issues seem to have gone away when I disabled DLAA.

    I suffer from the same issue with medium/heavy attacks, but I do not have this graphics option available (since I only have a GTX 1660 Ti which does not support it).
  • ghost_bg_ESO
    ghost_bg_ESO
    ✭✭✭✭
    HA is acting strange even on stadia... way more noticeable with lightning staff - keeping button pressed usually starts next HA, now not every time; continues even after buton is released.
    PC and stadia with controller.


    may be have to tag someone @ZOS_Kevin
  • Cirantille
    Cirantille
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Yes
    Lightning staff heavy attack here
    You used to be able to interrupt like "medium attack" but after the patch this became impossible
    Even though I want to break the HA, it does not allow me
  • propertyOfUndefined
    propertyOfUndefined
    ✭✭✭✭
    You’re right. I got excited, but looks like I was wrong. It's still acting up :(
  • phileunderx2
    phileunderx2
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lighting light attacks often lock up and become heavies.. Very annoying.
  • starkerealm
    starkerealm
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ippokrates wrote: »
    Yeah. Heavy attacks (On a lightning staff at least) seems to be completing even if you release them early. So once you start one the game is finishing it whether you release LMB or not.

    And resources? Are they back or no?

    Not sure about that case, but I've been seeing WAY lower resource return from heavy attacks since the Deadlands patch.
  • Katlefiya
    Katlefiya
    ✭✭✭✭
    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    Is this something the devs are already aware of? It is a very annoying bug that impacts the playstyle of a lot of people.
  • Leogon
    Leogon
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Noticed that as well.
Sign In or Register to comment.