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Overland Content Feedback Thread

  • ESO_player123
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    shadoza wrote: »
    The Shroud Hearth Barrow undaunted quest was broken this day. I think it was called Inflamed Pyres of the Rift. After lighting two braziers, Jakalor was supposed to appear and be decommissioned before the braziers went out. Jakalor was being shy. There were several players moving through but they were not getting Jakalor to come out. I left the game for a time, came back in and he still didn't show. I waited for a time, playing with my scribed skill but nothing came out. I was about to leave the dungeon unfulfilled, then noticed Jakalor finally appeared.

    Is there something special that should have happened to make Jakalor appear or did I just get lucky this round?

    He is just like any boss - on a timer. It's always been like this.
  • shadoza
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    shadoza wrote: »
    The Shroud Hearth Barrow undaunted quest was broken this day. I think it was called Inflamed Pyres of the Rift. After lighting two braziers, Jakalor was supposed to appear and be decommissioned before the braziers went out. Jakalor was being shy. There were several players moving through but they were not getting Jakalor to come out. I left the game for a time, came back in and he still didn't show. I waited for a time, playing with my scribed skill but nothing came out. I was about to leave the dungeon unfulfilled, then noticed Jakalor finally appeared.

    Is there something special that should have happened to make Jakalor appear or did I just get lucky this round?

    He is just like any boss - on a timer. It's always been like this.

    Really long timer. We, those that came and myself, waited more than 15 minutes and nothing happened.
  • ESO_player123
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    shadoza wrote: »
    shadoza wrote: »
    The Shroud Hearth Barrow undaunted quest was broken this day. I think it was called Inflamed Pyres of the Rift. After lighting two braziers, Jakalor was supposed to appear and be decommissioned before the braziers went out. Jakalor was being shy. There were several players moving through but they were not getting Jakalor to come out. I left the game for a time, came back in and he still didn't show. I waited for a time, playing with my scribed skill but nothing came out. I was about to leave the dungeon unfulfilled, then noticed Jakalor finally appeared.

    Is there something special that should have happened to make Jakalor appear or did I just get lucky this round?

    He is just like any boss - on a timer. It's always been like this.

    Really long timer. We, those that came and myself, waited more than 15 minutes and nothing happened.

    15 min seems excessive. May be something happened, but in my experience in most cases I had to wait for him to appear when I had the daily there on my many toons.
  • Tariq9898
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Tariq9898 wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    New Answer from the Reddit AMA
    Short answer is: Yes, we are working on it.

    Longer answer: We have scoping and are aligning resources for this initiative and will share more when we have better timelines.

    For the time being, I can say that the some core values for this are...

    \- This is optional and no one will be forced into it
    \- There will be varied levels of difficulty players can opt into
    \- We will NOT be separating players

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/8dqcougkjN
    Yes, it would include older content.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/4BKTqd1Hai

    These responses personally make me feel like the timeline has been pushed back but I'm not sure.

    @ZOS_Kevin

    Is this still slated for the current content pass?

    Was it ever slated for the current content pass? I do not remember seeing/hearing any mention of it. Would be great to see a quote if it exists.

    Yes. I asked about it coming out this year, 2025, after the April livestream. My question was referencing a statement made at the end of 2024 that we'd know more in 2025. And I was reassured that the current plan was still that it would come out this content pass.
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Thank you for the response. I guess my follow up question is if this is something still so early into prototyping, is this is something still planned to drop this year? I know last year, it was stated that it would be coming this year which lead to many of expecting news during the live. The new content cadence was stated to help with speed of releases so I wonder if this is still possibly coming this year?
    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    As of right now, the goal is to still have this out during the content pass timeline. But if that changes, we will update once we have a clear picture if anything changes.

    However, between the statements made in the AMA and the layoffs, I am not convinced that this is still the case. A lot has changed at ZOS and those statements make it sound like it's not that far in development.

    @spartaxoxo Thanks a lot. I would be very surprised if we get this this year.

    I’d be okay if it comes out next year.

    I would too. I just want to know now so I don't have to watch the whole Update 48 preview stream with the expectation it will get addressed if it's not going to be

    It's not that long of a wait though, I guess. This Thursday at 2PM ET.

    THIS Thursday? As in two days from now?!

    Edit* Oh sh** it is this Thursday!
    Edited by Tariq9898 on September 10, 2025 12:21AM
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    New Answer from the Reddit AMA
    Short answer is: Yes, we are working on it.

    Longer answer: We have scoping and are aligning resources for this initiative and will share more when we have better timelines.

    For the time being, I can say that the some core values for this are...

    \- This is optional and no one will be forced into it
    \- There will be varied levels of difficulty players can opt into
    \- We will NOT be separating players

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/8dqcougkjN
    Yes, it would include older content.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/4BKTqd1Hai

    These responses personally make me feel like the timeline has been pushed back but I'm not sure.

    @ZOS_Kevin

    Is this still slated for the current content pass?

    Was it ever slated for the current content pass? I do not remember seeing/hearing any mention of it. Would be great to see a quote if it exists.

    Yes. I asked about it coming out this year, 2025, after the April livestream. My question was referencing a statement made at the end of 2024 that we'd know more in 2025. And I was reassured that the current plan was still that it would come out this content pass.
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Thank you for the response. I guess my follow up question is if this is something still so early into prototyping, is this is something still planned to drop this year? I know last year, it was stated that it would be coming this year which lead to many of expecting news during the live. The new content cadence was stated to help with speed of releases so I wonder if this is still possibly coming this year?
    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    As of right now, the goal is to still have this out during the content pass timeline. But if that changes, we will update once we have a clear picture if anything changes.

    However, between the statements made in the AMA and the layoffs, I am not convinced that this is still the case. A lot has changed at ZOS and those statements make it sound like it's not that far in development.

    @spartaxoxo Thanks a lot. I would be very surprised if we get this this year.

    You're welcome. I'd be surprised too but I'd still like confirmation since we were told we'd be updated if things changed. Seems easy enough since the Livestream is this Thursday.

    Just to level set, while overland difficulty is in active development, it's not something that will be ready to be released before the end of the year. We're definitely excited to share more information on it as development progresses, though!
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  • Tariq9898
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    New Answer from the Reddit AMA
    Short answer is: Yes, we are working on it.

    Longer answer: We have scoping and are aligning resources for this initiative and will share more when we have better timelines.

    For the time being, I can say that the some core values for this are...

    \- This is optional and no one will be forced into it
    \- There will be varied levels of difficulty players can opt into
    \- We will NOT be separating players

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/8dqcougkjN
    Yes, it would include older content.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/4BKTqd1Hai

    These responses personally make me feel like the timeline has been pushed back but I'm not sure.

    @ZOS_Kevin

    Is this still slated for the current content pass?

    Was it ever slated for the current content pass? I do not remember seeing/hearing any mention of it. Would be great to see a quote if it exists.

    Yes. I asked about it coming out this year, 2025, after the April livestream. My question was referencing a statement made at the end of 2024 that we'd know more in 2025. And I was reassured that the current plan was still that it would come out this content pass.
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Thank you for the response. I guess my follow up question is if this is something still so early into prototyping, is this is something still planned to drop this year? I know last year, it was stated that it would be coming this year which lead to many of expecting news during the live. The new content cadence was stated to help with speed of releases so I wonder if this is still possibly coming this year?
    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    As of right now, the goal is to still have this out during the content pass timeline. But if that changes, we will update once we have a clear picture if anything changes.

    However, between the statements made in the AMA and the layoffs, I am not convinced that this is still the case. A lot has changed at ZOS and those statements make it sound like it's not that far in development.

    @spartaxoxo Thanks a lot. I would be very surprised if we get this this year.

    You're welcome. I'd be surprised too but I'd still like confirmation since we were told we'd be updated if things changed. Seems easy enough since the Livestream is this Thursday.

    Just to level set, while overland difficulty is in active development, it's not something that will be ready to be released before the end of the year. We're definitely excited to share more information on it as development progresses, though!

    Thanks! Take all the time you need to get it right!
  • spartaxoxo
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    Just to level set, while overland difficulty is in active development, it's not something that will be ready to be released before the end of the year. We're definitely excited to share more information on it as development progresses, though!

    Thank you for the swift response Gina! I'm glad to get confirmation and will view the Livestream with this in mind! I'm looking forward to the feature but I can be patient to see it done right.
  • spartaxoxo
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    Tariq9898 wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Tariq9898 wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    New Answer from the Reddit AMA
    Short answer is: Yes, we are working on it.

    Longer answer: We have scoping and are aligning resources for this initiative and will share more when we have better timelines.

    For the time being, I can say that the some core values for this are...

    \- This is optional and no one will be forced into it
    \- There will be varied levels of difficulty players can opt into
    \- We will NOT be separating players

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/8dqcougkjN
    Yes, it would include older content.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/4BKTqd1Hai

    These responses personally make me feel like the timeline has been pushed back but I'm not sure.

    @ZOS_Kevin

    Is this still slated for the current content pass?

    Was it ever slated for the current content pass? I do not remember seeing/hearing any mention of it. Would be great to see a quote if it exists.

    Yes. I asked about it coming out this year, 2025, after the April livestream. My question was referencing a statement made at the end of 2024 that we'd know more in 2025. And I was reassured that the current plan was still that it would come out this content pass.
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Thank you for the response. I guess my follow up question is if this is something still so early into prototyping, is this is something still planned to drop this year? I know last year, it was stated that it would be coming this year which lead to many of expecting news during the live. The new content cadence was stated to help with speed of releases so I wonder if this is still possibly coming this year?
    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    As of right now, the goal is to still have this out during the content pass timeline. But if that changes, we will update once we have a clear picture if anything changes.

    However, between the statements made in the AMA and the layoffs, I am not convinced that this is still the case. A lot has changed at ZOS and those statements make it sound like it's not that far in development.

    @spartaxoxo Thanks a lot. I would be very surprised if we get this this year.

    I’d be okay if it comes out next year.

    I would too. I just want to know now so I don't have to watch the whole Update 48 preview stream with the expectation it will get addressed if it's not going to be

    It's not that long of a wait though, I guess. This Thursday at 2PM ET.

    THIS Thursday? As in two days from now?!

    Edit* Oh sh** it is this Thursday!

    Yes. I will try to watch it and post about it but no promises!
  • shadoza
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    New Answer from the Reddit AMA
    Short answer is: Yes, we are working on it.

    Longer answer: We have scoping and are aligning resources for this initiative and will share more when we have better timelines.

    For the time being, I can say that the some core values for this are...

    \- This is optional and no one will be forced into it
    \- There will be varied levels of difficulty players can opt into
    \- We will NOT be separating players

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/8dqcougkjN
    Yes, it would include older content.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/4BKTqd1Hai

    These responses personally make me feel like the timeline has been pushed back but I'm not sure.

    @ZOS_Kevin

    Is this still slated for the current content pass?

    Was it ever slated for the current content pass? I do not remember seeing/hearing any mention of it. Would be great to see a quote if it exists.

    Yes. I asked about it coming out this year, 2025, after the April livestream. My question was referencing a statement made at the end of 2024 that we'd know more in 2025. And I was reassured that the current plan was still that it would come out this content pass.
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Thank you for the response. I guess my follow up question is if this is something still so early into prototyping, is this is something still planned to drop this year? I know last year, it was stated that it would be coming this year which lead to many of expecting news during the live. The new content cadence was stated to help with speed of releases so I wonder if this is still possibly coming this year?
    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    As of right now, the goal is to still have this out during the content pass timeline. But if that changes, we will update once we have a clear picture if anything changes.

    However, between the statements made in the AMA and the layoffs, I am not convinced that this is still the case. A lot has changed at ZOS and those statements make it sound like it's not that far in development.

    @spartaxoxo Thanks a lot. I would be very surprised if we get this this year.

    You're welcome. I'd be surprised too but I'd still like confirmation since we were told we'd be updated if things changed. Seems easy enough since the Livestream is this Thursday.

    Just to level set, while overland difficulty is in active development, it's not something that will be ready to be released before the end of the year. We're definitely excited to share more information on it as development progresses, though!

    So sad to hear exclusion is coming. Keep expanding difficulty levels and handing out higher rewards and you are perpetuated the problem.
  • Tariq9898
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    shadoza wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    New Answer from the Reddit AMA
    Short answer is: Yes, we are working on it.

    Longer answer: We have scoping and are aligning resources for this initiative and will share more when we have better timelines.

    For the time being, I can say that the some core values for this are...

    \- This is optional and no one will be forced into it
    \- There will be varied levels of difficulty players can opt into
    \- We will NOT be separating players

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/8dqcougkjN
    Yes, it would include older content.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/4BKTqd1Hai

    These responses personally make me feel like the timeline has been pushed back but I'm not sure.

    @ZOS_Kevin

    Is this still slated for the current content pass?

    Was it ever slated for the current content pass? I do not remember seeing/hearing any mention of it. Would be great to see a quote if it exists.

    Yes. I asked about it coming out this year, 2025, after the April livestream. My question was referencing a statement made at the end of 2024 that we'd know more in 2025. And I was reassured that the current plan was still that it would come out this content pass.
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Thank you for the response. I guess my follow up question is if this is something still so early into prototyping, is this is something still planned to drop this year? I know last year, it was stated that it would be coming this year which lead to many of expecting news during the live. The new content cadence was stated to help with speed of releases so I wonder if this is still possibly coming this year?
    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    As of right now, the goal is to still have this out during the content pass timeline. But if that changes, we will update once we have a clear picture if anything changes.

    However, between the statements made in the AMA and the layoffs, I am not convinced that this is still the case. A lot has changed at ZOS and those statements make it sound like it's not that far in development.

    @spartaxoxo Thanks a lot. I would be very surprised if we get this this year.

    You're welcome. I'd be surprised too but I'd still like confirmation since we were told we'd be updated if things changed. Seems easy enough since the Livestream is this Thursday.

    Just to level set, while overland difficulty is in active development, it's not something that will be ready to be released before the end of the year. We're definitely excited to share more information on it as development progresses, though!

    So sad to hear exclusion is coming. Keep expanding difficulty levels and handing out higher rewards and you are perpetuated the problem.

    It’s more inclusive. More players can play the game how they want. And it’s optional, no one is forcing you to participate in any overland difficulty.
  • shadoza
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    Tariq9898 wrote: »
    shadoza wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    New Answer from the Reddit AMA
    Short answer is: Yes, we are working on it.

    Longer answer: We have scoping and are aligning resources for this initiative and will share more when we have better timelines.

    For the time being, I can say that the some core values for this are...

    \- This is optional and no one will be forced into it
    \- There will be varied levels of difficulty players can opt into
    \- We will NOT be separating players

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/8dqcougkjN
    Yes, it would include older content.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/s/4BKTqd1Hai

    These responses personally make me feel like the timeline has been pushed back but I'm not sure.

    @ZOS_Kevin

    Is this still slated for the current content pass?

    Was it ever slated for the current content pass? I do not remember seeing/hearing any mention of it. Would be great to see a quote if it exists.

    Yes. I asked about it coming out this year, 2025, after the April livestream. My question was referencing a statement made at the end of 2024 that we'd know more in 2025. And I was reassured that the current plan was still that it would come out this content pass.
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Thank you for the response. I guess my follow up question is if this is something still so early into prototyping, is this is something still planned to drop this year? I know last year, it was stated that it would be coming this year which lead to many of expecting news during the live. The new content cadence was stated to help with speed of releases so I wonder if this is still possibly coming this year?
    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    As of right now, the goal is to still have this out during the content pass timeline. But if that changes, we will update once we have a clear picture if anything changes.

    However, between the statements made in the AMA and the layoffs, I am not convinced that this is still the case. A lot has changed at ZOS and those statements make it sound like it's not that far in development.

    @spartaxoxo Thanks a lot. I would be very surprised if we get this this year.

    You're welcome. I'd be surprised too but I'd still like confirmation since we were told we'd be updated if things changed. Seems easy enough since the Livestream is this Thursday.

    Just to level set, while overland difficulty is in active development, it's not something that will be ready to be released before the end of the year. We're definitely excited to share more information on it as development progresses, though!

    So sad to hear exclusion is coming. Keep expanding difficulty levels and handing out higher rewards and you are perpetuated the problem.

    It’s more inclusive. More players can play the game how they want. And it’s optional, no one is forcing you to participate in any overland difficulty.

    Not inclusive. Where is the RPG players, the solo runners, the base new players in all these grand plans to appease the power happy? When was the last time you heard the development team promise new delves, public dungeons, or story based material. I didn't purchase the new chapter because all I heard promised was two dungeons and a trial. Group play.

    Those that want to play the story and base are constantly asked to deal with those that want to be Elite at all costs. The ones that run by and one-hit the foes, bosses, whatever. The ones that herd mobs in the dungeons and in the quest areas for whatever resource they are farming that day. Why not have a version of group dungeons, arenas, and trials that are at the public dungeon level of difficulty so the base players can enjoy them? Why not have instances for dungeons and quest areas. There is a solo arena and there are instances in some quest areas, so why not provide more for those that are not into power but rather are into the story?

    I think the people who complain about needing more difficulty are the same players that farm in newb zones like Bal Foyen. I saw two there this day each were over 2800 CP. They were not doing a quest, they were racing from one resource node to another, completing with low levels and each other. One of the two worked the same area for more than 20 minutes so it wasn't a casual find.

    How is it inclusive when one side gets all the game and the other gets half? Group players can play in any of the options.
    Those that do not group play are missing many dungeons and are at a disadvantage in PvP. Even the arguments here are one-sided. There certainly will be players coming at me with you choose not to play, the game isn't about you, there is plenty of base options . . . I have heard it all before. Certain types of players are getting all the favors and the rest are expected to be thankful for crumbs. Maybe the new difficulties should be sub-based then at least they are playing for the extras they're gaining.

    I see ESO going from a MMORPG to a co-op tower game.
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