Overland Content Feedback Thread

AlexanderDeLarge · April 10

Agreed. I love everything revealed at the direct but that's contingent on higher difficulty. Multiclassing is the same as companions to me. Cool feature that I'd enjoy if I logged in but that's something that'll make the game even easier and not something that would get me to return to the game.

GatheredMyst · April 10

I really can't underscore this enough.

Those of us who have been hoping for this have been doing so for years...

... and even if you haven't been looking forward to it, keeping people in the dark on how this might work is not a good idea. All it does is continue wild speculation.

Please, please, please, for the sake of everyone's sanity, those who are excited, and those who are tepid, give us some answers? Communicate a little? I ask this as nicely as possible.

disky · April 10

Snamyap wrote: »

disky wrote: »

So...did I miss something, or was overland difficulty not actually discussed in the live? I'm watching the aftershow now, but I was under the impression that I was going to see something in the main show.

I guess I'll reserve my full reaction until the aftershow is over, but...huh. Subclassing looks great, but if the game is going to continue to be a cakewalk anyway then I'm still not excited for the future of the game.

I like the idea of subclassing, but it's probably going to create even more powerful characters compared to the environment.

That was my thinking as well...but I don't mind, as long as there is a way to compress the sense of overwhelming power we already have. I'm happy to have more ways to customize my characters and I'd be very glad to have something like subclassing available. Now, ZOS just needs to build in more weapon styles.

Credible_Joe · April 10

Apparently overland content difficulty is still in the oven: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8292844/#Comment_8292844

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Tariq9898 wrote: »

What about the overland difficulty increase?? Is that optional?

This is still being worked on and will be something we rollout later on.

DeathStalker · April 10

Credible_Joe wrote: »

Apparently overland content difficulty is still in the oven: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8292844/#Comment_8292844

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Tariq9898 wrote: »

What about the overland difficulty increase?? Is that optional?

This is still being worked on and will be something we rollout later on.

Thank you for sharing this here

sans-culottes · April 10

DeathStalker wrote: »

Credible_Joe wrote: »

Apparently overland content difficulty is still in the oven: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8292844/#Comment_8292844

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Tariq9898 wrote: »

What about the overland difficulty increase?? Is that optional?

This is still being worked on and will be something we rollout later on.

Thank you for sharing this here

Agreed. It would’ve been nice to have more clarity on this.

AlexanderDeLarge · April 10

I'm fine with it being in development, that was assumed, but transparency would be nice. Especially for something that was specified in the letter back in December. We've been in the dark for years and today was the only prospect we had on the subject.

Also I want the whole optional versus not optional discussion to be put to rest because apparently everyone here is fine with an optional implementation.

DeathStalker · April 10

This is from another thread
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/675932/official-feedback-thread-for-2025-eso-direct-seasons-of-the-worm-cult/p3

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Tariq9898 wrote: »

What about the overland difficulty increase?? Is that optional?

This is still being worked on and will be something we rollout later on.

I understand you can't go into detail but tons of players have been agonizing about this for months on end. Can you just let us know if the current plan is that this something players opt in to or a complete overhaul of difficulty in the game that everyone will experience? We don't need details. We know those can't be provided. We know that plans could be changed. But months of anxiety about that question has made left many players anxious and nervous and has completely colored anticipation. If there is anything at all to share on just that one question, it would do wonders to shape anticipation and discussion in a positive direction.

To be honest with you, giving any information at this point would be doing you and everyone else a disservice. We are too early in the prototyping process to share anything that will be helpful. The most I can share is that we have taken the feedback about being able to opt into overland difficulty to the team and highlighted this is very important to the community. But this is a work in progress. Not much more I can share at this moment.

colossalvoids · April 10

Didn't they explicitly said they would give information and now there's no information to share..? Bit puzzled here.

terrible1fi · April 10

The MOST needed feature (overland difficulty revamp) is the one thing that wasn't even mentioned. man this is so sad

its hard to be engaged with the game and story when the big bad evil of every quest line goes down in just a few hits/spells

AlexanderDeLarge · April 10

A bit more details provided in the other thread.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

disky wrote: »

I don't want to come off as entitled, and I know it's just a game, and I understand that game development is about time/resource/priority management, but Matt discussed this in his December letter and now it seems like it's still in early prototyping with no prospects of a release anytime soon. Meanwhile, we're seeing a lot of progress on a major new system that was not discussed publicly prior to today. it's just really frustrating to have been given hope for a change that would make the game fun to play, only to have it shoved aside for something that sounds fun but isn't nearly as important to a lot of us. It feels like a bait-and-switch.

I'm here because I love this game and I want it to be better. I'm saying this because ESO matters to me. Please, I'm begging you guys to give overland difficulty options priority. I know it's complicated and controversial but it's something that will, for a lot of people, make the overland game actually fun to play for the first time.

Edit: And I just want to say that I understand systems can be developed simultaneously and different teams may be assigned to different features, but I can't get over the feeling that subclassing is something we didn't know about until now, and overland difficulty is something the community has been demanding for years. And also that it's understood how important the feature is to players given the vastness and length of the discussion on this very forum.

Totally get it. Understand where you are coming from. Just want to clarify here that we have a team dedicated to overland, so it is getting the focus and time needed. This is an important feature and we want to make sure this is done correctly. So there is a team dedicated to this. Some of the features that you are seeing today have been in the works for a bit. So that is why you are seeing them today. We hope to have more info in the future to share about overland.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Thank you for the response. I guess my follow up question is if this is something still so early into prototyping, is this is something still planned to drop this year? I know last year, it was stated that it would be coming this year which lead to many of expecting news during the live. The new content cadence was stated to help with speed of releases so I wonder if this is still possibly coming this year?

As of right now, the goal is to still have this out during the content pass timeline. But if that changes, we will update once we have a clear picture if anything changes.

SilverBride · April 10

Rich said they will look into making overland difficulty an opt in thing!

That would be a WIN WIN for everyone!

AlexanderDeLarge · April 10

Rich Lambert just confirmed it will be opt-in.

GatheredMyst · April 10

SilverBride wrote: »

I just wasted 2 hours of my time waiting to hear about Overland just to find out it will be later.

@ZoS_Kevin PLEASE just tell is if it any changes will be mandatory or optional.

Confirmed on stream just now:

Rich says they are working on it being an opt-in system.

colossalvoids · April 10

Rich said opt in. That's all couple of people needed to know.

DeathStalker · April 10

Rich just said in the 2025 direct post show stream they will probably make overland difficulty opt-in because there are people who struggle with where things are for them so they don't want to make things harder for them.

Arunei · April 10

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

Rich Lambert just confirmed it will be opt-in.

He didn't confirm it 100% will be, he said it will most probably be.

Snamyap · April 10

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

Rich Lambert just confirmed it will be opt-in.

Beat me to it. No concrete info yet though.

Muizer · April 10

Ok, Rich just confirmed that they've heard feedback and are looking for something optional where Overland difficulty is concerned. But whatever it is seems to be in a very early stage.

disky · April 10

Rich just noted in the aftershow that they're working on this issue with the intention of making it opt-in. So to everyone afraid of the potential for a mandatory change, there you go.

spartaxoxo · April 10

RICH just confirmed it will be probably be optional at the end of the direct.

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO

WE DID IT

,👏🏿👏🏿📣📣📣🍻🍻😁🥂🥂👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

DeathStalker · April 10

Arunei wrote: »

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

Rich Lambert just confirmed it will be opt-in.

He didn't confirm it 100% will be, he said it will most probably be.

your right, let me clarify my post a little

SilverBride · April 10

GatheredMyst wrote: »

Confirmed on stream just now:

Rich says they are working on it being an opt-in system.

I just saw that and changed my post! Thank you!

disky · April 10

SilverBride wrote: »

Rich said they will look into making overland difficulty an opt in thing!

That would be a WIN WIN for everyone!

I'm happy for you.

sans-culottes · April 10

SilverBride wrote: »

Rich said they will look into making overland difficulty an opt in thing!

That would be a WIN WIN for everyone!

We may sometimes disagree, but I agree with you 100% here.

valenwood_vegan · April 10

As someone who would probably opt in, optional sounds great. Looking forward to when we get to hear more about what's planned.

SilverBride · April 10

sans-culottes wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Rich said they will look into making overland difficulty an opt in thing!

That would be a WIN WIN for everyone!

We may sometimes disagree, but I agree with you 100% here.

Back at ya!

Tariq9898 · April 10

Let’s *** goooooooo!!!! Thank you ZOS for this!!! 🫶🏼

GatheredMyst · April 10

SilverBride wrote: »

sans-culottes wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Rich said they will look into making overland difficulty an opt in thing!

That would be a WIN WIN for everyone!

We may sometimes disagree, but I agree with you 100% here.

Back at ya!

High fives all around. If everyone truly gets what they want, then ZOS should be lauded.

Can't wait to see how this feature shakes out. Hopefully we get more info in the not too distant future

Credible_Joe · April 10

I'm glad the debate has been put to rest, and I hope I'm wrong about what I said before about signaling. Hopefully if there's any incentive it won't be collection, build, or achievement related. Hell, I'd be good with no incentive at all.

Looking forward to any more details about the solution they're working on.