Request to change Nolus Cedus' pathing in Leyawiin

alcoraptor · October 2021

He walks right past the crafting writs hand-in location, and can nudge you away when you're trying to complete the quests.
The poor guy gets blade of woe'd (or otherwise brutally murdered) on a regular basis, he must be sick of it by now!

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PizzaCat82 · October 2021

Request to put annoying NPCs that walk in front of every place with accidentally stealable and important quest objectives.

It'll get many more people to buy that dark brotherhood DLC so they can brutally murder them all the time.

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Hapexamendios · October 2021

Probably the most murdered character in the game now. Almost always see his corpse there. Just move the fool about 3m to the right to get him out of the way.

Destai · October 2021

Fully support removing him and the guy in Vivec City too.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Llandras_Gathram

I don't get why ZOS keeps adding these kinds of hindrances to dailies, but it's seriously annoying. @ZOS_RichLambert Can you tell your devs to not do this anymore, pretty please? Here's some NPCs they need to improve:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/579041/qol-suggestions-npc-behavior#latest

Elsonso · October 2021

They have been doing this since at least Orsinium...

redspecter23 · October 2021

If I were doing writs there, I'd just kill him, not even blade of woe, just right in his stupid face. Then log off and let the bounty fade while I'm offline.

I was doing it with the fool in Vvardenfell that does the same thing, but he respawns so fast.

Who decides to put these NPC's in these places and do they do it out of malice toward players, ignorance about how it will affect writ turnins or is it just a complete coincidence? Honestly, I'd consider reporting his location as a bug similar to a node that is underground. There is no way it's intended for him to be there for any reason other than trolling really.

Lord_Hev · October 2021

Oh the absolute horror, we have to move slighty around an npc to turn in a writ. THE AUDACITY.

matterandstuff · October 2021

Yes, please.

Although Blade of Woeing him is practically a Blackwood crafter tradition at this point.

It's one of the few communal activities in Blackwood outside of events.

kamimark · October 2021

alcoraptor wrote: »

He walks right past the crafting writs hand-in location, and can nudge you away when you're trying to complete the quests.
The poor guy gets blade of woe'd (or otherwise brutally murdered) on a regular basis, he must be sick of it by now!
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I do contribute to murdering him almost every day. Wait for the guard to walk on, pick pick stab, then turn in my writs.

six2fall · October 2021

But having to kill him has become a daily little guilty pleasure

pdblake · October 2021

Also move millinith closer to the craft area in alinor.

TheImperfect · October 2021

It's how I keep my vampire fed.

ApoAlaia · October 2021

He used to be irksome but now he mostly amuses me when I see him nonchalantly stepping on two or three or his corpses.

He must be daedra or something because this is not natural.

MasterSpatula · October 2021

There's a guard in the Belkarth bank that could really stand to have its path changed a bit, too.

Destai · October 2021

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Oh the absolute horror, we have to move slighty around an npc to turn in a writ. THE AUDACITY.

Why is he there in the first place? Sure we can keep stabbing and stepping around him, but it's just bad design man. Those areas should be clean. And it's not like players haven't voiced this frustration FOR YEARS but they always add them in subsequent expansions.

whitecrow · October 2021

Destai wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Oh the absolute horror, we have to move slighty around an npc to turn in a writ. THE AUDACITY.

Why is he there in the first place? Sure we can keep stabbing and stepping around him, but it's just bad design man. Those areas should be clean. And it's not like players haven't voiced this frustration FOR YEARS but they always add them in subsequent expansions.

Maybe that's why they add them.

ZOS_GinaBruno · October 2021

Thanks for the feedback! We, too, have suffered from this NPCs pushiness and are going to move him somewhere else.

ESO_Nightingale · October 2021

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the feedback! We, too, have suffered from this NPCs pushiness and are going to move him somewhere else.

Finally, i can stop dismissing mirri to stab this guy to get him out of my way!

Destai · October 2021

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the feedback! We, too, have suffered from this NPCs pushiness and are going to move him somewhere else.

Can you also remove this guy too, he's honestly more intrusive:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Llandras_Gathram

Thanks for all you do!

Lady_Sleepless · October 2021

Who am I meant to knife on my way to hand in writs now?
Honestly though, thanks for this upcoming change!

Rumancek · October 2021

Still not as bad as stealable items near where you turn in crafting writs.

ZOS_GinaBruno · October 2021

Destai wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the feedback! We, too, have suffered from this NPCs pushiness and are going to move him somewhere else.

Can you also remove this guy too, he's honestly more intrusive:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Llandras_Gathram

Thanks for all you do!

Yep, we'll take a look at some of the other NPCs called out in this thread too.

MinuitPro · October 2021

Rumancek wrote: »

Still not as bad as stealable items near where you turn in crafting writs.

Yeah my 2015-2016 "check Windhelm traders" was full of near curse words and I'd jitter the mouse and end up stealing an axe or something. You know they are cynically laughing at us for every one of those thefts.

mekops_ESO · October 2021

While we are at it, Llildorian (alchemist merchant) is kind of crowding the joint next to the alchemy table in the crafting area in Leyawiin. I love his emote/momento glowy thing, and want one. Should probably be where the small barrel next to him is, well away from the crafting table(the tables in Vvardenfell also have merchants that are so close they screw with targeting). Just tossin that out there. IDK if he bugs anyone else though XD

Ratinira · October 2021

Won't mind if you teleport Stuga somewhere out of audio reach... middle of Red Mountain would be perfect. And two those discussing dragons before I free dragons too...
Woud be nice to play eso with audio turned on again

And thank you for Nolus Cedus

WIZZARD2K · October 2021

Rumancek wrote: »

Still not as bad as stealable items near where you turn in crafting writs.

Stealable items I understand, same with things on the bank counter --- they force you to be careful and add a little bit of an adventure if you get caught.
The guy being so close he pushes you and cancels the action you were doing is annoying, almost annoying as the two boxes you can't reach, and have to wait for the game to decide you were "close enough" as if you were harvesting a node you also couldn't reach. That feels awkward and sloppy to me.

Red_Feather · October 2021

Thank you for moving him. I actually got angry and murdered him yesterday. 😢

Destai · October 2021

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Destai wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the feedback! We, too, have suffered from this NPCs pushiness and are going to move him somewhere else.

Can you also remove this guy too, he's honestly more intrusive:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Llandras_Gathram

Thanks for all you do!

Yep, we'll take a look at some of the other NPCs called out in this thread too.

Sweet! If it's not too much to ask, perhaps the devs could also reference this list of NPCs that block or stalk players.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/579041/qol-suggestions-npc-behavior#latest

There's a few more I've spotted too:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Qadim
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Darius_(Redguard)
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Telonil

I'm sure it's a lot to consider, guessing some of these would require reworking of scenes and quest triggers, but gotta ask! Would definitely like my turn-ins to be a smoother experience over these, so thanks for the attention!

Ratinira · October 2021

Oh and may be you also be so kind to remove gаggling cat and vomiting reachman out of Markarth inn? The bard there has a very beautiful voice and I like songs but that disgusting vomiting soud louder that the song is... disgusting
Who thought it is a funny idea to put that two there

silvereyes · October 2021

Thank you! Any chance of also smoothing out that speed bump on the boardwalk leading to the writ turn-in in Vivec City, while you are at it? It doesn't happen every time, but several times a day, my mount ends up launching into the air there.

Rumancek · October 2021

Ratinira wrote: »

Oh and may be you also be so kind to remove gаggling cat and vomiting reachman out of Markarth inn? The bard there has a very beautiful voice and I like songs but that disgusting vomiting soud louder that the song is... disgusting
Who thought it is a funny idea to put that two there

Having just come back after a long break, I've not got to that DLC yet and it's a good thing I read this! If I heard that noise I'd probably fly off my bed in search of my Russian Blue who has an obsession with bathing and then gagging the hairballs in the worst places.

Clearly, a dev has cat hairball trauma and is making us suffer