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Request to change Nolus Cedus' pathing in Leyawiin

alcoraptor
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He walks right past the crafting writs hand-in location, and can nudge you away when you're trying to complete the quests.
The poor guy gets blade of woe'd (or otherwise brutally murdered) on a regular basis, he must be sick of it by now!

[Edited Title to Remove Petition]
Edited by ZOS_Psiion on October 18, 2021 1:26AM
Praise Vivec! You were there to stop Alexandra Conele from capturing the coral heart!
  • Elsonso
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    They have been doing this since at least Orsinium... :smile:
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  • redspecter23
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    If I were doing writs there, I'd just kill him, not even blade of woe, just right in his stupid face. Then log off and let the bounty fade while I'm offline.

    I was doing it with the fool in Vvardenfell that does the same thing, but he respawns so fast.

    Who decides to put these NPC's in these places and do they do it out of malice toward players, ignorance about how it will affect writ turnins or is it just a complete coincidence? Honestly, I'd consider reporting his location as a bug similar to a node that is underground. There is no way it's intended for him to be there for any reason other than trolling really.
  • kamimark
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    alcoraptor wrote: »
    He walks right past the crafting writs hand-in location, and can nudge you away when you're trying to complete the quests.
    The poor guy gets blade of woe'd (or otherwise brutally murdered) on a regular basis, he must be sick of it by now!
    [Edited Title to Remove Petition]

    I do contribute to murdering him almost every day. Wait for the guard to walk on, pick pick stab, then turn in my writs.
    Kitty Rainbow Dash. pick, pick, stab.
  • six2fall
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    But having to kill him has become a daily little guilty pleasure
  • pdblake
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    Also move millinith closer to the craft area in alinor.
  • TheImperfect
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    It's how I keep my vampire fed.
  • MasterSpatula
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    There's a guard in the Belkarth bank that could really stand to have its path changed a bit, too.
    "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle
  • Destai
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    Lord_Hev wrote: »
    Oh the absolute horror, we have to move slighty around an npc to turn in a writ. THE AUDACITY.

    Why is he there in the first place? Sure we can keep stabbing and stepping around him, but it's just bad design man. Those areas should be clean. And it's not like players haven't voiced this frustration FOR YEARS but they always add them in subsequent expansions.
    Edited by Destai on October 18, 2021 2:40PM
  • whitecrow
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    Destai wrote: »
    Lord_Hev wrote: »
    Oh the absolute horror, we have to move slighty around an npc to turn in a writ. THE AUDACITY.

    Why is he there in the first place? Sure we can keep stabbing and stepping around him, but it's just bad design man. Those areas should be clean. And it's not like players haven't voiced this frustration FOR YEARS but they always add them in subsequent expansions.

    Maybe that's why they add them.
  • Lady_Sleepless
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    Who am I meant to knife on my way to hand in writs now?
    Honestly though, thanks for this upcoming change!
  • Rumancek
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    Still not as bad as stealable items near where you turn in crafting writs.
    "I do know one thing. You need to have trust and honesty. Without trust and honesty it won't work." -Friday Night Lights
  • MinuitPro
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    Rumancek wrote: »
    Still not as bad as stealable items near where you turn in crafting writs.

    Yeah my 2015-2016 "check Windhelm traders" was full of near curse words and I'd jitter the mouse and end up stealing an axe or something. You know they are cynically laughing at us for every one of those thefts.
  • mekops_ESO
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    While we are at it, Llildorian (alchemist merchant) is kind of crowding the joint next to the alchemy table in the crafting area in Leyawiin. I love his emote/momento glowy thing, and want one. Should probably be where the small barrel next to him is, well away from the crafting table(the tables in Vvardenfell also have merchants that are so close they screw with targeting). Just tossin that out there. IDK if he bugs anyone else though XD
  • Ratinira
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    Won't mind if you teleport Stuga somewhere out of audio reach... middle of Red Mountain would be perfect. And two those discussing dragons before I free dragons too...
    Woud be nice to play eso with audio turned on again :)

    And thank you for Nolus Cedus
  • WIZZARD2K
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    Rumancek wrote: »
    Still not as bad as stealable items near where you turn in crafting writs.

    Stealable items I understand, same with things on the bank counter --- they force you to be careful and add a little bit of an adventure if you get caught.
    The guy being so close he pushes you and cancels the action you were doing is annoying, almost annoying as the two boxes you can't reach, and have to wait for the game to decide you were "close enough" as if you were harvesting a node you also couldn't reach. That feels awkward and sloppy to me.
  • Red_Feather
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    Thank you for moving him. I actually got angry and murdered him yesterday. 😢
    Good bye
  • Destai
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    Destai wrote: »
    Thanks for the feedback! We, too, have suffered from this NPCs pushiness and are going to move him somewhere else.

    Can you also remove this guy too, he's honestly more intrusive:
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Llandras_Gathram

    Thanks for all you do!

    Yep, we'll take a look at some of the other NPCs called out in this thread too. :)

    Sweet! If it's not too much to ask, perhaps the devs could also reference this list of NPCs that block or stalk players.
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/579041/qol-suggestions-npc-behavior#latest

    There's a few more I've spotted too:
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Qadim
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Darius_(Redguard)
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Telonil

    I'm sure it's a lot to consider, guessing some of these would require reworking of scenes and quest triggers, but gotta ask! Would definitely like my turn-ins to be a smoother experience over these, so thanks for the attention!
    Edited by Destai on October 18, 2021 6:55PM
  • Ratinira
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    Oh and may be you also be so kind to remove gаggling cat and vomiting reachman out of Markarth inn? The bard there has a very beautiful voice and I like songs but that disgusting vomiting soud louder that the song is... disgusting
    Who thought it is a funny idea to put that two there :(
    Edited by Ratinira on October 18, 2021 5:50PM
  • silvereyes
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    Thank you! Any chance of also smoothing out that speed bump on the boardwalk leading to the writ turn-in in Vivec City, while you are at it? It doesn't happen every time, but several times a day, my mount ends up launching into the air there.
  • Rumancek
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    Ratinira wrote: »
    Oh and may be you also be so kind to remove gаggling cat and vomiting reachman out of Markarth inn? The bard there has a very beautiful voice and I like songs but that disgusting vomiting soud louder that the song is... disgusting
    Who thought it is a funny idea to put that two there :(

    Having just come back after a long break, I've not got to that DLC yet and it's a good thing I read this! If I heard that noise I'd probably fly off my bed in search of my Russian Blue who has an obsession with bathing and then gagging the hairballs in the worst places.

    Clearly, a dev has cat hairball trauma and is making us suffer D:
    "I do know one thing. You need to have trust and honesty. Without trust and honesty it won't work." -Friday Night Lights
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