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Dark Convergence here, Dark Convergence there, Dark Convergence everywhere
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phileunderx2✭✭✭✭✭
✭Took a character in to blackreach last night to get a quick tier 1.
Was defending a keep from the top by the front door and was constantly being pulled over the edge, can't dodge roll out because you are stuck and have to jump over the lip to get back on the top of the keep.
Eventually I got pulled to the ground and was killed. So I ported back to base and left.
No more pvp. I am done.5 -
SimonThesis✭✭✭✭✭
✭Red_Feather wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Did our PTS folks fail us on these sets or did ZOS not listen?
CP campaigns are a hot mess.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7355986/#Comment_7355986
Makes you wonder why they have feedback threads like that and then they don't listen to anyone or change anything and then it becomes a big mess live. @ZOS_Kevin0 -
Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭
✭Worst set I have seen implemented in years.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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neferpitou73✭✭✭✭✭
✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Did our PTS folks fail us on these sets or did ZOS not listen?
CP campaigns are a hot mess.
There were at least three threads on the PTS telling ZOS that they were too powerful. In response to that feedback ZOS decided to...buff dark convergence by decreasing its cooldown.
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AngryOldMan✭✭✭✭They wanted to make a Game Changing sets but ended up making a Game Breaking sets. I hope they listen to all the feedback on the new sets and either rework it completly, or delete them.3 -
neferpitou73✭✭✭✭✭
✭AngryOldMan wrote: »They wanted to make a Game Changing sets but ended up making a Game Breaking sets. I hope they listen to all the feedback on the new sets and either rework it completly, or delete them.
Oh, my sweet summer child...5 -
GoopCooper69✭✭✭Yes this new set is very powerful, but can be avoided. Stop crying and use roll dodge and break free. I killed many players in BG who use this set.
From my opinion this set is as dangerous as DK's Dragon Leap or Warden's Permafrost. Let ban them from PvP also (joke).
the problem isnt avoiding one of these procs. the problem is that every other person in cyro/bgs is running it and they are everywhere. You block or dodge roll out of one only to get sucked up into another one over and over and over and over. When every single person in cyro is running one set, it is broken. Im am getting very annoyed by constantly being yanked around by it13 -
Giraffon✭✭✭✭✭
✭I do BGs all the time. They are always screwed up in one way or another, but I keep going back in there once per alt for as much as I can stand it on any given day. That 100K XP is just too tempting a treat to pass up. And as broken as they are on most days, I still find myself enjoying a satisfying balance of rage and revenge so I keep going back. I lose to crap meta builds more often than not, but I refuse to conform!
Giraffon - Beta Lizard - For the Pact!3 -
MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭No Proc PVP with No CP is where skill matters and not a set that is abused.Red_Feather wrote: »When it gets changed it might not be used by anyone. I bet the pull will be removed and that is the last you'll ever see the set used.
If the pull or stun is removed, less people will use it.
Edited by MEBengalsFan2001 on September 13, 2021 7:27PM0 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GoopCooper69 wrote: »Yes this new set is very powerful, but can be avoided. Stop crying and use roll dodge and break free. I killed many players in BG who use this set.
From my opinion this set is as dangerous as DK's Dragon Leap or Warden's Permafrost. Let ban them from PvP also (joke).
the problem isnt avoiding one of these procs. the problem is that every other person in cyro/bgs is running it and they are everywhere.
that doesn't sound like a zos accounting/billing kind of problem...if anything - these kind of pvp sets may be a trend...
PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
Jackey✭✭✭✭✭Today I went to Gray Host again after being away from home for the weekend.
Dark Convergence is now a huge part of every single situation happening in there. It has been less than a week with the patch live.
The dumb set dragged my character off the edge of an outpost making me fall down in a swarm of enemy players.PS | EU5 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The dumb set dragged my character off the edge of an outpost making me fall down in a swarm of enemy players.
Yesterday somebody hit me with this proc while I was running a ballista on the non-merchant side postern wall of Sejanus. It knocked me off the wall, but onto the little ledge that runs around the back of the keep. It was funny as heck watching 10 ppl trying to kill me with skills and even siege from below, but none of them could hit me. I ended up porting to IC to keep my kill streak alive.
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pleximus✭✭✭✭✭So, pvp today was interesting... I put up my lancer, was out of reach yet SOMEHOW Dark Convergence hit me and I got killed instantly! Happened twice no matter how high up I was and out of reach, i.e. it hit me THROUGH WALLS AND FLOOR!!!
I don't understand why more people aren't playing in Ravenwatch on PC NA-server. Game is completely broken and the best thing would probably be to delete Cyrodiil altogether and start over.2 -
xxthir13enxx✭✭✭✭✭
✭Heh rest assured there will be a nerf incoming. This was ALWAYS going to be the case… Zos creates these Sets which creates some buzz and excitement
than after a couple months of LOL’s and GRR’s!!! *poof*
Nerf
It’s the way of the game…it’s fun…we enjoy it for the moment of blissful chaos it adds to the Same ol’ Same ol’ of our Standard play
Don’t Worry, Be Happy!
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Soraka✭✭✭✭✭I've noticed a few times an enemy DC appears on the ground as friendly aoe. I'm not sure if that's just some issue on my end though.0 -
Alendrin✭✭✭Now that we are late in the campaign, people who just want the transmutes are showing up and experiencing dark convergence for possibly the first time. Life expectancies of these people between dc deaths in a keep fight is around 5 seconds. I would love to see the feedback.2
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pleximus✭✭✭✭✭Good job ZOS, you FINALLY managed to completely destroy pvp with these 2 sets. That's how pvp dies, with a thunderous applause. I've never been more miserable playing pvp since I started playing ESO. It's just miserable and depressing. Everyone and their mother are wearing Dark Convergence and Hrothgar! EVERY SINGLE TIME I've died, it's been because of those two sets!
This game is so miserable.7 -
sarahthes✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It is interesting seeing how these sets are experienced by different groups. My friends run them and get a lot of kills... but I don't see them die to these sets very often, even though their opponents use them just as much as they do.2 -
AngryOldMan✭✭✭✭Take your loss ZOS. Admit the mistake and remove the sets out of excistence. They should never been even been discussed as an idea in the break room, and absolutly not been introduced into the game. I love the CP-campain, but after this sets ruined PVP im just getting frustrated and starting to hate PVP-ing (if it can be called that anymore) in CP-campain. Why should a player be rewarded for spending 30 minutes in Cyrodil and not even try to LOS, roll-dodge or wait for the right moment to attack? They can push 1 button and kill 10 players now. Where is the skill? Why should PVP-ers who have trained in group and solo and spent considerable amount of hours in Cyrodil be punished? Is loyality not worth anything anymore?
Ballgroups are spending their time together and optimalizing their playstyle- gone, no use anymore
Solo players LOSing 3-4 enemies, surviving and try to fight back - Gone in the vacuum of Dark Convergence
Now we are rewarded for spending gold on 1 set, no skill needed except 1 AOE attack.
Please make PVP Players Versus Player again, and forget this whole Payer Versus Players idea.
Sorry for the rant but ruining my favourite activity in my favourite game is hitting me straight in the guts5 -
Bowser✭✭✭✭✭I love these sets because I'm terrible at PvP but I can pair DC with Vicious Death and wipe out groups with a destro ulti.4 -
AinSoph✭✭✭✭✭Did ZOS forget that this was a zerg destroying set? Surely it would make complete sense to make the base damage proc a lot lower than normal but give it an above-average scaling but if it's killing a single person easily there may be some concerns.0 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Did ZOS forget that this was a zerg destroying set? Surely it would make complete sense to make the base damage proc a lot lower than normal but give it an above-average scaling but if it's killing a single person easily there may be some concerns.
It's actually a zerg enabling set. 40 people wearing Dark Convergence will kill solo players and small groups instantly.
.Edited by Jaraal on September 15, 2021 5:16AM6 -
Arbiter7070✭✭✭Did ZOS forget that this was a zerg destroying set? Surely it would make complete sense to make the base damage proc a lot lower than normal but give it an above-average scaling but if it's killing a single person easily there may be some concerns.
It's actually a zerg enabling set. 40 people wearing Dark Convergence will kill solo players and small groups instantly.
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Exactly. This hurts solo players the most. It’s hard to LOS groups when you’re getting constantly yoinked around and actually pulled through LOS. Before, a good solo player would have a chance against a few zerglings, but with these sets it makes it much harder. I feel like I’m getting whiplash from getting yoinked around in a tower so much. These sets are just enabling bad players IMO. Just as Proc cheesing usually does. We saw who the real good players were last patch when clever and Balorghs was meta. Now I’m getting zerged down by 20 people using dark convergence and hrothgar this patch2 -
sarahthes✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Did ZOS forget that this was a zerg destroying set? Surely it would make complete sense to make the base damage proc a lot lower than normal but give it an above-average scaling but if it's killing a single person easily there may be some concerns.
It's actually a zerg enabling set. 40 people wearing Dark Convergence will kill solo players and small groups instantly.
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Except for my friends who run in 4-6 person groups and routinely kill 30+ at a time while not usually dying. They die occasionally, but their opponents die more.0 -
GoopCooper69✭✭✭GoopCooper69 wrote: »Yes this new set is very powerful, but can be avoided. Stop crying and use roll dodge and break free. I killed many players in BG who use this set.
From my opinion this set is as dangerous as DK's Dragon Leap or Warden's Permafrost. Let ban them from PvP also (joke).
the problem isnt avoiding one of these procs. the problem is that every other person in cyro/bgs is running it and they are everywhere.
that doesn't sound like a zos accounting/billing kind of problem...if anything - these kind of pvp sets may be a trend...
All i meant was that if every one in PVP is running the exact same set, then it is not healthy for the overall diversity of the pvp environment and that clearly needs to be reworked to be more specifically situational depending on class and role.2
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