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Where do you think next year will take place, will be in Morrowind, Pyandonea or Hammerfell?

  • alberichtano
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    Thannazzar wrote: »
    Given Chapters have succeded the most based on nostalgia, ZOS may well have learned this.

    Lessons learned from the comparative poor reception of Blackwood as opposed to Morrowind, GreyMoor etc is likely to push them in that direction.

    Morrowind and Pyandonea have had coverage, albeit limited in other expansions.

    They have also used all of the 5 companions in previous releases.

    Suspect Hapmmerfell based on teases. Ie there is a big statue of Sai in Leyawiin. But more likely to be driven by any new 'system' they introduce.

    It needs to be a solid hit with players the way companions wasn't.

    It isn't about nostalgia though, if it had been, Greymoor would have been a huge success, like Morrowind, and Summerset and Elsweyr would not have been so well recieved.

    The writing is deteroriating, as are the stories, I think. That is why the latest chapters have been less than gloriously recieved.
  • alberichtano
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    I need to see Winterhold or some lore from the Dwemer

    Nah, too much dwemer lore will ruin the dwemers. Don't get me wrong, I love the whole dwemer thing, but the more mystery, the better.

    My nightmare is a chapter or DLC explaining the disappearance of the dwemer, or even having them return for a bit as baddies. That would be horrible.
  • Supreme_Atromancer
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    I dunno, Colovian Highlands, featuring Skingrad seems like a distinct possibility. ZOS have made a solid effort to distinguish between Colovians and Nibeneans, so I think that Colovia would have some very different stories to tell. In fact, there's plenty of precedent for zones that focus on regions rather than traditional province boundaries, so I can't see why they wouldn't consider Colovia and Rihad, for example.

    Telvanni Peninsula could be epic, and I, personally would love to see Whiterun/Falkreath or Dawnstar/Winterhold, regardless of how recent Greymoor was. ZOS have no problem with mixing nostalgia with something new, so I'm not worried about that so much.

    But what I most want to see is Jehanna and the Western Reach. That would satisfy the complete lack of any good Breton content and possibly remedy the base-game lore bloopers. The region may be partially under the command of an Imperial Governor at this point in time, so that would add for some interesting dynamics - but mostly it would just be great to get some decent Breton content FINALLY. As some people have pointed out, the little blank space between Orsinium and Western Skyrim doesn't look like it could support substantial content, but the map is borked anyway, there's no consistency of scale, and when you start talking about things like Winterhold or Blacklight on the Velothi Highlands, you're faced with the same realisation- if ZOS really plans to cover all of Tamriel, they're eventually going to need to address the map.
    Vaoh wrote: »
    To fill the map and spread out race themes, ideally it’ll turn out something like this...
    QKVv9tz.png

    Case in point: That "Valus Mountains" zone couldn't exist because every other map of Tamriel shows us that big weird gap doesn't exist. Cheydinhal is pretty much directly across, and close to Kragenmoor, which the game already covers. That weird NE stretched arm of Cyrodiil seems like some sort of forced retrofitting because they borked the map.
  • SeaGtGruff
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    I need to see Winterhold or some lore from the Dwemer

    Nah, too much dwemer lore will ruin the dwemers. Don't get me wrong, I love the whole dwemer thing, but the more mystery, the better.

    My nightmare is a chapter or DLC explaining the disappearance of the dwemer, or even having them return for a bit as baddies. That would be horrible.

    No worries there, as I believe they've said that Bethesda has forbidden it, or words to that effect.
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  • Ratzkifal
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    Hammerfell
    Vaoh wrote: »
    To fill the map and spread out race themes, ideally it’ll turn out something like this...

    QKVv9tz.png
    2022: Hammerfell chapter
    Q2 - Hegathe Wastelands (under Alik’r/Bangkorai)
    Q4 - Corten Heights (under west Craglorn)

    2023: Black Marsh chapter
    Q2 - Argonia (under Shadowfen)
    Q3 - Thornmarsh (east of Shadowfen)

    2024: Skyrim chapter
    Q2 - Winterhold (northwest of Eastmarch)
    Q4 - Solstheim (whole island of Soltheim)

    2025: Morrowind chapter
    Q1 - Velothi Mountains (east of The Rift)
    Q2 - Mephalan Mountains (east+northeast of Bal Foyen)
    Q4 - Telvanni Isles (east of Vvardenfell)

    2026: Colovia/Cyrodiil chapter
    Q2 - Colovian Highlands (under east Craglorn)
    Q4 - West Weald (west of Cyrodiil)

    2027: Skyrim chapter
    Q2 - Whiterun Hold (north of Cyrodiil)
    Q4 - The Pale (north of Whiterun Hold)

    2028: Yokuda chapter
    Q2 - Akos Kasaz (main island of Yokuda)
    Q4 - Ravan (south islands of Yokuda)

    2029: Cyrodiil-themed chapter
    Q2 - Nibenay Valley (north of Blackwood)
    Q4 - Valus Mountains (west of Stonefalls)

    2030: Atmora-themed chapter
    Q2 - Atmoran Frostwood (large region of Atmora)
    Q4 - Forelgrim (some region in Atmora)

    No idea if ZOS plans to have this game last until 2030 though.

    That map sucks and that's ZOS' fault for the most part.

    The Velothi mountain zone is a lot larger than you'd think from looking at the world map, Winterhold has also been weirdly stretched out (if you go into TES5 you'll see Winterhold is pretty much straight north from Windhelm while in this game there is nothing but ocean north of Windhelm), your depiction of the pale cuts deep into what is actually already Whiterun and you are forgetting that there is also still Falkreath (with an intact Helgen) south of it.

    ZOS should really redo the map already instead of insisting that the map is only bad because the mapmakers of Tamriel aren't all that accurate. They should be using this map instead.
    anthology%20map.jpg
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  • Vylaera
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    ZOS should really redo the map already instead of insisting that the map is only bad because the mapmakers of Tamriel aren't all that accurate.

    They need to fix the map ASAP before adding more zones even further complicates fixing it. God forbid we get Central Skyrim next year with the current map layout and that irreparably borks the map.

    No one mentions how messed up all of Morrowind is when map threads are made. That always bothered me. The Telvanni Penninsula is weirdly shaped and juts out way too far, and Vvardenfell is oddly spaced out from the mianland, whereas in the real maps, it's tightly cuddled by the mainland all around.

    I also found it weird that the Cyrodiil zone on the world map is a completely different shape compared to the actual zone map, and it extends out way too far in all directions.

    Does anyone remember this map?
    ON-map-Tamriel_%28physical_copy%29.jpg
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  • Aliyavana
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    Here is an idea nobody has mention yet

    Elder Scrolls Online: Bloodmoon

    The expansion would feature 2 zones much like Greymoor, these zones would be Solstheim and The Hunting Grounds and if you could not already of guessed the expansion would be centered on Hircine's Wild Hunt as a callback to the DLC from Morrowind of the same name, this would also be a good time to introduce Werebears into the game, whether they are playable or not would be up to ZOS but I could imagine a 3rd transformation could be the expansions BIG feature.

    I rather not get another nostalgia chapter and a rehashed plot. I love hircine content, even helped write his expansive article on the wiki, but eh. A solstheim chapter is better spent learning about the snow elves and further exploring the snow prince as skyrim barely touched on them. That said, an explaination of the backstory of the altar of thrond would be nice.

    I personally would like to see hircine tied into a culture whose lens we havnt seen their perspective of him on. Say black marsh for example. Did hircine have worshippers in the marsh that he introduce the curse of werecrocidiles? Maybe tie the disease to the weredaedroth that sheogorath beat in the accords of madness.
  • Lugaldu
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    Hammerfell
    My wishes would be Eastern Morrowind or Pyandonea, but Hammerfell seems more likely due to the larger areas not covered by the map to far.
  • Vaoh
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    To fill the map and spread out race themes, ideally it’ll turn out something like this...

    QKVv9tz.png
    2022: Hammerfell chapter
    Q2 - Hegathe Wastelands (under Alik’r/Bangkorai)
    Q4 - Corten Heights (under west Craglorn)

    2023: Black Marsh chapter
    Q2 - Argonia (under Shadowfen)
    Q3 - Thornmarsh (east of Shadowfen)

    2024: Skyrim chapter
    Q2 - Winterhold (northwest of Eastmarch)
    Q4 - Solstheim (whole island of Soltheim)

    2025: Morrowind chapter
    Q1 - Velothi Mountains (east of The Rift)
    Q2 - Mephalan Mountains (east+northeast of Bal Foyen)
    Q4 - Telvanni Isles (east of Vvardenfell)

    2026: Colovia/Cyrodiil chapter
    Q2 - Colovian Highlands (under east Craglorn)
    Q4 - West Weald (west of Cyrodiil)

    2027: Skyrim chapter
    Q2 - Whiterun Hold (north of Cyrodiil)
    Q4 - The Pale (north of Whiterun Hold)

    2028: Yokuda chapter
    Q2 - Akos Kasaz (main island of Yokuda)
    Q4 - Ravan (south islands of Yokuda)

    2029: Cyrodiil-themed chapter
    Q2 - Nibenay Valley (north of Blackwood)
    Q4 - Valus Mountains (west of Stonefalls)

    2030: Atmora-themed chapter
    Q2 - Atmoran Frostwood (large region of Atmora)
    Q4 - Forelgrim (some region in Atmora)

    No idea if ZOS plans to have this game last until 2030 though.

    That map sucks and that's ZOS' fault for the most part.

    The Velothi mountain zone is a lot larger than you'd think from looking at the world map, Winterhold has also been weirdly stretched out (if you go into TES5 you'll see Winterhold is pretty much straight north from Windhelm while in this game there is nothing but ocean north of Windhelm), your depiction of the pale cuts deep into what is actually already Whiterun and you are forgetting that there is also still Falkreath (with an intact Helgen) south of it.

    ZOS should really redo the map already instead of insisting that the map is only bad because the mapmakers of Tamriel aren't all that accurate. They should be using this map instead.
    anthology%20map.jpg

    I mean I agree that ZOS needs to update the map to be a bit more accurate, but I worked with the ingame map they used to give a general idea of possible zones based on region names. Ofc it’s not perfect. Kinda shocked at how toxic this got lol. Wasn’t aware the elder scrolls community cartographers were so stringent :anguished:
  • goatlyonesub17_ESO
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    Jone and/or Jode.

    I even have a quest line thought up. A really smart Dunmer, Nelon Dusk, invents magic wings that can fly high above Tamriel, even so far as its two moons...
    Edited by goatlyonesub17_ESO on August 23, 2021 10:14AM
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  • Pauwer
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    It will probs be Lagfell, Lagheim, Laglands, Northern Lagville or something similar.
  • Gythral
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    Clearly it'll be [redacted]
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  • alberichtano
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    Gythral wrote: »
    Clearly it'll be [redacted]

    What, will they redact the zone?? :o
  • Darkstorne
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    I think 2022 will be the last chance for Hammerfell, and if it's not set there we can be pretty certain it's off-limits until TES6 releases.

    HOWEVER!

    For anyone who missed this theory, some fans think they might have found a hint about TES6's location in the Starfield teaser earlier this summer. There was a marking in the *** of the ship (lol, okay forums, apparently "driving area" of the ship is a rude word :tongue:) that looks a heck of a lot like a rough outline of the Iliac Bay, showing central and western High Rock, and most of the western half of Hammerfell including the Hew's Bane peninsula and an off-shore island likely representing Stros M'Kai and the rest of that archipelago. Images below of the marking in question and a map of the Iliac Bay for comparison. Could just be coincidence of course so take it with a grain of salt, but the resemblance is striking, and this was the setting for TES2 so would make for an interesting return in TES6.

    If this theory pans out being true (BIG if), then potentially there's nothing to prevent ZOS from visiting eastern Hammerfell, particularly the city of Rihad and the surrounding Goldmoor and Helkori Plains. The city of Skaven and the surrounding Dak'Fron could then work as a Q4 release. So I'm currently 50/50 split on whether that's the plan for ESO next year, or the Telvanni Isles. Pyandonea sounds awesome, and I'd love to see it, but I would be surprised if they ventured beyond Tamriel while there were still great Chapter opportunities within Tamriel (Hammerfell maybe, Telvanni definitely, the rest of Skyrim, Cyrodiil, Black Marsh, and even central Elsweyr since that region still has two major cities within and world map scale absolutely does not reflect in-game world scale in ESO so don't panic about relative map sizes of Chapters there).

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    Edited by Darkstorne on August 23, 2021 12:10PM
  • Aznarb
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    Hammerfell
    I am disappointed that Q4 wont take us to other Black Marsh Zone... I mean After Elsweyr, that was a "dream come true" for Khajiits, I was hoping for similar "Dream come true" set of zones & lore, but for Argonians... It did not happened... Instead we got teased with an Argonian assassin with tail armour that was only in cinematic, and not even in a game.

    Imagine if in Elsweyr chapter Khamira was only in Cutscenes and later on she was not in a game and Elsweyr was like Reaper's March zone - splitted thematically between 2 races.

    So, yes, I am waiting for a Proper Argonian Chapter.

    Hum ? What ? The Lizardman was here ! It was me :x

    But I agree with you, I want MOARR lore about argonian !
    Also, cut-scene was meh at best, no enough money anymore to made amazing CGI like all of the Elsweyr one ? :(
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  • Galwylin
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    Hammerfell
    More of a hope really.
  • ghastley
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    One thing to note is that Blackwood connects to both an AD zone and an EP zone. This is the first time that's happened, and it could mean that the other two links are due in the new two chapters.

    If so, then Central Skyrim, and Colovia/Eastern Hammerfell would be likely.
  • Alarde
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    At the land of fixes and reworks.
  • Malthorne
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    I would love to see a whole chapter take place within a Daedric realm that we haven’t really gotten to experience yet in Elder Scrolls. Give us a dangerous alien landscape with tons of new assets, enemies and lore.

    I don’t care what realm it is. Give us something new and different.
  • Hallothiel
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    To fill the map and spread out race themes, ideally it’ll turn out something like this...

    QKVv9tz.png
    2022: Hammerfell chapter
    Q2 - Hegathe Wastelands (under Alik’r/Bangkorai)
    Q4 - Corten Heights (under west Craglorn)

    2023: Black Marsh chapter
    Q2 - Argonia (under Shadowfen)
    Q3 - Thornmarsh (east of Shadowfen)

    2024: Skyrim chapter
    Q2 - Winterhold (northwest of Eastmarch)
    Q4 - Solstheim (whole island of Soltheim)

    2025: Morrowind chapter
    Q1 - Velothi Mountains (east of The Rift)
    Q2 - Mephalan Mountains (east+northeast of Bal Foyen)
    Q4 - Telvanni Isles (east of Vvardenfell)

    2026: Colovia/Cyrodiil chapter
    Q2 - Colovian Highlands (under east Craglorn)
    Q4 - West Weald (west of Cyrodiil)

    2027: Skyrim chapter
    Q2 - Whiterun Hold (north of Cyrodiil)
    Q4 - The Pale (north of Whiterun Hold)

    2028: Yokuda chapter
    Q2 - Akos Kasaz (main island of Yokuda)
    Q4 - Ravan (south islands of Yokuda)

    2029: Cyrodiil-themed chapter
    Q2 - Nibenay Valley (north of Blackwood)
    Q4 - Valus Mountains (west of Stonefalls)

    2030: Atmora-themed chapter
    Q2 - Atmoran Frostwood (large region of Atmora)
    Q4 - Forelgrim (some region in Atmora)

    No idea if ZOS plans to have this game last until 2030 though.

    That map sucks and that's ZOS' fault for the most part.

    The Velothi mountain zone is a lot larger than you'd think from looking at the world map, Winterhold has also been weirdly stretched out (if you go into TES5 you'll see Winterhold is pretty much straight north from Windhelm while in this game there is nothing but ocean north of Windhelm), your depiction of the pale cuts deep into what is actually already Whiterun and you are forgetting that there is also still Falkreath (with an intact Helgen) south of it.

    ZOS should really redo the map already instead of insisting that the map is only bad because the mapmakers of Tamriel aren't all that accurate. They should be using this map instead.
    anthology%20map.jpg

    Am I the only one to think the Cyrodiil area shape is rather amusing? And somewhat appropriate given Imperial ambitions?

    No? Then I’ll just remove me & my smutty mind and go and snigger in the corner like a teenager. 😆
  • SidraWillowsky
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    Eastern Morrowind
    I don't *think* it will actually be Port Telvannis/Necrom/Firewatch/etc, but I'll die hopeful. I'd love if they filled in *all* of Morrowind. You can see Dagon Fel from northern Vvardenfell in ESO, but I don't know if that means it'll be used for anything in the future.

    I wanted to say that the architecture of eastern Morrowind is totally different but remembered that Tamriel Rebuilt created that area, not Bethesda...

    EDIT: lbr tho, we know it'll just be Skyrim

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    Edited by SidraWillowsky on August 23, 2021 1:44PM
  • Ratzkifal
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    Hammerfell
    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    ZOS should really redo the map already instead of insisting that the map is only bad because the mapmakers of Tamriel aren't all that accurate.

    They need to fix the map ASAP before adding more zones even further complicates fixing it. God forbid we get Central Skyrim next year with the current map layout and that irreparably borks the map.

    No one mentions how messed up all of Morrowind is when map threads are made. That always bothered me. The Telvanni Penninsula is weirdly shaped and juts out way too far, and Vvardenfell is oddly spaced out from the mianland, whereas in the real maps, it's tightly cuddled by the mainland all around.

    I also found it weird that the Cyrodiil zone on the world map is a completely different shape compared to the actual zone map, and it extends out way too far in all directions.

    Does anyone remember this map?
    ON-map-Tamriel_%28physical_copy%29.jpg

    Agreed!
    The map is already "borked", since Stonefalls and the Rift should be quite a bit further apart according to more accurate maps, but fort Virak and the Blessed Crucible suggest they are actually very very close together, just the way the current map says. Also because sizes are very distorted on the map, the isle of Summerset has been made a lot lot smaller in ESO than it actually is. If we compare it with Skyrim's size, then on the North-South axis Summerset is the same length as the distance from the very south of the Rift to the coast in the very north. Which means our current map suggests it's just as large as two holds of Skyrim, but the more accurate map says it's the size of three holds! But the zone is already done now, so if that would have affected anything, it's too late for it now.
    Very much borked already.
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  • Sahqon
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    There's a huge empty area under Craglorn compared to everything else, maybe they'll try to fill that up. Or maybe we get Morrowind, BUT I think they are keeping that as a last resort "must keep players hooked" land area. I mean, we'd get to meet Nerevar! I'd definitely come back whatever else I'm playing if they released that part, and so would all other Morrowind fans. But I don't think they are at that stage yet.
  • Ratzkifal
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    Hammerfell
    Vaoh wrote: »
    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    To fill the map and spread out race themes, ideally it’ll turn out something like this...

    QKVv9tz.png
    2022: Hammerfell chapter
    Q2 - Hegathe Wastelands (under Alik’r/Bangkorai)
    Q4 - Corten Heights (under west Craglorn)

    2023: Black Marsh chapter
    Q2 - Argonia (under Shadowfen)
    Q3 - Thornmarsh (east of Shadowfen)

    2024: Skyrim chapter
    Q2 - Winterhold (northwest of Eastmarch)
    Q4 - Solstheim (whole island of Soltheim)

    2025: Morrowind chapter
    Q1 - Velothi Mountains (east of The Rift)
    Q2 - Mephalan Mountains (east+northeast of Bal Foyen)
    Q4 - Telvanni Isles (east of Vvardenfell)

    2026: Colovia/Cyrodiil chapter
    Q2 - Colovian Highlands (under east Craglorn)
    Q4 - West Weald (west of Cyrodiil)

    2027: Skyrim chapter
    Q2 - Whiterun Hold (north of Cyrodiil)
    Q4 - The Pale (north of Whiterun Hold)

    2028: Yokuda chapter
    Q2 - Akos Kasaz (main island of Yokuda)
    Q4 - Ravan (south islands of Yokuda)

    2029: Cyrodiil-themed chapter
    Q2 - Nibenay Valley (north of Blackwood)
    Q4 - Valus Mountains (west of Stonefalls)

    2030: Atmora-themed chapter
    Q2 - Atmoran Frostwood (large region of Atmora)
    Q4 - Forelgrim (some region in Atmora)

    No idea if ZOS plans to have this game last until 2030 though.

    That map sucks and that's ZOS' fault for the most part.

    The Velothi mountain zone is a lot larger than you'd think from looking at the world map, Winterhold has also been weirdly stretched out (if you go into TES5 you'll see Winterhold is pretty much straight north from Windhelm while in this game there is nothing but ocean north of Windhelm), your depiction of the pale cuts deep into what is actually already Whiterun and you are forgetting that there is also still Falkreath (with an intact Helgen) south of it.

    ZOS should really redo the map already instead of insisting that the map is only bad because the mapmakers of Tamriel aren't all that accurate. They should be using this map instead.
    anthology%20map.jpg

    I mean I agree that ZOS needs to update the map to be a bit more accurate, but I worked with the ingame map they used to give a general idea of possible zones based on region names. Ofc it’s not perfect. Kinda shocked at how toxic this got lol. Wasn’t aware the elder scrolls community cartographers were so stringent :anguished:

    Toxic? How so?
    The map you made is wildly inaccurate, because you based it on ZOS' wildly inaccurate map. Can't really fault you for thinking the ingame map would be the most reliable, since, ideally, it would be. But ZOS' map doesn't even work with the zones as we see them in the game. Craglorn is distorted, Eastmarch and Cyrodiil both have a completely different shape than they do on the map...
    The "Velothi mountains" zone has the Redoran mainland and the 4th era capital of Morrowind in it that already exists in ESO's time (Blacklight). It's more than just mountains. No way that is just going to be a Q1 dungeon DLC, unless you meant to tell us that it wouldn't be following their current release schedule anymore of Q1 and Q3 being dungeon DLCs.
    Yokuda sank, so I'm not sure how that will be a chapter. And Pyandonea, included in the title of this very thread, isn't even included in your timeline as a chapter.

    How many more objective issues do I need to point out before I can say that something sucks? Your effort to give us a rough estimate of what releases we can expect is appreciated and commendable, but you are wrong in your depiction of them and I don't think pointing that out makes me toxic, especially since I really haven't said anything about you - just the matter at hand.
    Maybe I have a bit of a short fuse on the topic because ZOS has continued to ignore it for 7 years now despite it actually affecting the game negatively (by reducing zone size more than necessary), but I don't think I was being rude here. It wasn't my intention anyway.
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
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    To answer seriously I would like Hammerfell.

    Really don’t care now about wherever TES 6 is set (as won’t be playing it, thanks Microsoft) but do think DC area needs more attention & love & stories.

    Just no more nostalgia. Please. I’d like something new.
  • grizzledcroc
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    Eastern Morrowind
    Morrowind is the most logical honestly
  • Vylaera
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    Agreed!
    The map is already "borked", since Stonefalls and the Rift should be quite a bit further apart according to more accurate maps, but fort Virak and the Blessed Crucible suggest they are actually very very close together, just the way the current map says. Also because sizes are very distorted on the map, the isle of Summerset has been made a lot lot smaller in ESO than it actually is. If we compare it with Skyrim's size, then on the North-South axis Summerset is the same length as the distance from the very south of the Rift to the coast in the very north. Which means our current map suggests it's just as large as two holds of Skyrim, but the more accurate map says it's the size of three holds! But the zone is already done now, so if that would have affected anything, it's too late for it now.
    Very much borked already.

    I definitely agree it's already borked. So much so I spent the past few hours fixing it. It is really borked.

    here's the post I just made:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/584379/i-fixed-the-map-now-its-zoss-turn/p1?new=1

    And here's the map I just made:
    map.gif
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    Hammerfell
    My heart says Eastern Morrowind

    But I think it will be Hammerfell since Redguards didn't get dlc yet
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    Agreed!
    The map is already "borked", since Stonefalls and the Rift should be quite a bit further apart according to more accurate maps, but fort Virak and the Blessed Crucible suggest they are actually very very close together, just the way the current map says. Also because sizes are very distorted on the map, the isle of Summerset has been made a lot lot smaller in ESO than it actually is. If we compare it with Skyrim's size, then on the North-South axis Summerset is the same length as the distance from the very south of the Rift to the coast in the very north. Which means our current map suggests it's just as large as two holds of Skyrim, but the more accurate map says it's the size of three holds! But the zone is already done now, so if that would have affected anything, it's too late for it now.
    Very much borked already.

    I definitely agree it's already borked. So much so I spent the past few hours fixing it. It is really borked.

    here's the post I just made:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/584379/i-fixed-the-map-now-its-zoss-turn/p1?new=1

    And here's the map I just made:
    map.gif

    Wow this is amazing! And you did that in just a few hours. There are a few more things I can spot, like Cyrodiil and some scaling issues particularly to leave enough room for Whiterun and Falkreath, but this is already a major improvement!
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
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    Vaoh wrote: »

    I mean I agree that ZOS needs to update the map to be a bit more accurate, but I worked with the ingame map they used to give a general idea of possible zones based on region names. Ofc it’s not perfect. Kinda shocked at how toxic this got lol. Wasn’t aware the elder scrolls community cartographers were so stringent :anguished:

    I hope my post didn't come off as toxic to you, @Vaoh , its not my intention, and I actually enjoyed reading your post.

    Map stuff is a big issue to many of us. As @Ratzkifal pointed out, some of us have been trying to point out the inconsistencies and sloppiness in the map for 7 years, and never gotten any acknowledgement on them, even though most of the fixes would seem to be relatively easy. Contrast that with how much effort and energy ZOS has invested in appeasing demands in every other area of the game, and you can't argue that its anything but passion and optimism that keeps any "Elder Scrolls Community Cartographers" around to appeal to ZOS to take some care with Tamriel at all.

    Anyway, its hard to have a discussion about possible upcoming zones based on any sort of map without this sort of topic coming up. I personally don't have any problem with your predictions, just wanted to point out an issue with one of them.
    Edited by Supreme_Atromancer on August 23, 2021 4:31PM
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