Can housing somehow be made part of the Endeavors?

katanagirl1

I’d like to see visiting other players houses added as an Endeavor. I’m really into housing, but in my one brief experience in a housing guild I was treated horribly as a new guildie and left. It left a bad taste in my mouth and I am very reluctant to join another.

I admit I don’t visit other players houses but rarely, and I’m pretty sure no one visits mine. I put a lot of effort into it, it would be nice if someone saw it.

I don’t know if it would just be any player house or if it could be a list of curated houses that were collected by ZOS as great examples of housing design and decoration.

I just want to throw this idea out there for discussion and hopefully a future implementation.

FluffWit

It's a cool idea, obviously it would be difficult for the solo players who don't have guilds/ friends but so what? The game shouldn't be built around them.

And sorry the guild didnt work out. I'm in Tamriel Homes & Gardens. They're pretty good but honestly, it feels more like a Facebook group then an in game guild. I don't think the other couple of large housing guilds on PS4 NA are that great either to be honest.

zelaminator

FluffWit wrote: »

It's a cool idea, obviously it would be difficult for the solo players who don't have guilds/ friends but so what? The game shouldn't be built around them.

So they should be built around people with guilds/friends instead.? [snip] it would probably be a better idea to keep the system as is instead..

[Edited for Rude/Insulting comments]

rauyran

zelaminator wrote: »

FluffWit wrote: »

It's a cool idea, obviously it would be difficult for the solo players who don't have guilds/ friends but so what? The game shouldn't be built around them.

So they should be built around people with guilds/friends instead.? [snip] it would probably be a better idea to keep the system as is instead..

No, it's not one or the other, it can be both or any or none. Adding the occasional housing related endeavour would be fun.

TheImperfect

I hope it's not the guild you left but Tamriel Homes is a great guild.

Toxic_Hemlock

Sounds good, maybe just label it SKIP so I know what one it is.

Lady_Galadhiel

Sounds like a good idea.
I had a horrible experience in a housing guild as well on PC EU.Since then I stayed away from housing guilds as there are only 2 big ones anyway and filled up with the same people.
I can't stand elitism in a place where you suppose to talk about your creations and share them with likeminded people.
But my experience was rather that people only like their own creations and look down at anything what they think isn't at their level.
And in that specific guild the chat was rather filled with toxic pvp argues at least a few times a week,to the point I had to block at least 3 members so I wouldnt need to read them in chat.

You can try the EHT Addon,there you can open up your decorated houses for the Community and even it wont track down every single person who visited your homes,you can have a guest list so the people who want can sign they have been there.
You can also travel and visit to all open homes what are listed and do the same.Some people are nice and will send you a mail and complementing you for your work.

Danikat

I like the idea of encouraging players to visit each other's homes, but I'm not sure an endeavour would achieve what you're looking for. They could add an endeavour for visiting a number of other players houses but it's highly unlikely they'd include recommendations because they haven't done that for any of the others. For example all the ones for 'kill a troll' 'kill 10 skeletons' etc. don't suggest locations or even explain some of the more obscure categories like 'beastial daedra', they leave it up to the player to figure out. So it would be a prompt for you to visit houses, but nothing more, and you can do that anyway.

Players who don't currently care about decorating or sharing houses would probably use their guild roster, load into the first ones in the list and leave as soon as they got credit without taking the time to look around, so I also don't think it would be an effective incentive for more players to decorate.

I recommend checking out houses in any guild you're in, even if it's not a housing one - you might be surprised! I like to do that periodically with my guilds (casual PvE guilds) and while it can mean a lot of clicking on people who haven't opened their home to guild members or loading into a random house with storage chest stacked at the entrance and nothing else there have been some really nice surprises in there. I spent about 20 minutes looking around one house which was amazing, every little area had it's own story to tell. Also some where if I hadn't seen the name on the loading screen I'd never have recognised the base house because it looked so different.

Another option is to check out the the community showcases and other challenges/collections in the housing section of the forum. You won't be able to visit all of them of course, because it's restricted to your server, but you may find some new ones to check out.

Gleitfrosch

Since Inn rooms are free, it could work as "place one item in your house"

zelaminator

I still think the system should stay as is.. they've made it this way, so that as man players as possible can do it

Danikat

zelaminator wrote: »

I still think the system should stay as is.. they've made it this way, so that as man players as possible can do it

Endeavours for visiting other players houses, or even for placing items in your own house, would be accessible to more people than the ones which require specific DLCs or chapters, like digging up antiquities or killing NPCs with the Blade of Woe.

I think ZOS intended it to be possible for any player to be able to complete 3 endeavours a day, but they certainly haven't made a system where everyone in the game can complete every endeavour.

zelaminator

Danikat wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

I still think the system should stay as is.. they've made it this way, so that as man players as possible can do it

Endeavours for visiting other players houses, or even for placing items in your own house, would be accessible to more people than the ones which require specific DLCs or chapters, like digging up antiquities or killing NPCs with the Blade of Woe.

I think ZOS intended it to be possible for any player to be able to complete 3 endeavours a day, but they certainly haven't made a system where everyone in the game can complete every endeavour.

On which day has a person not been able to complete 3/5.? As far as I have seen, only player choices have been a hindrance so far.?

Sylvermynx

I've completed three of five four out of the five last days. A couple of days before that I missed one or two mostly because I'm not real fond of just going out and killing stuff. In general, I've completed three of five more often than not since the beginning. The weekly ones are what I generally don't do.

whitecrow

I like this idea. There have been other endeavors that some people can't do, so if this was one of the five I don't see it as a problem.

Paulytnz

I think this is a great idea OP, here's a few ideas they could do:

1 - Visit a house in XXX map (vanilla maps). It might not even have to be owned, they could just preview it straight from the zone.

2 - Visit a house with XXX amount of Conservatory/Gallery/Structures/etc furnishings placed (similar to those certain achievements).

3 - Visit a House on a Friend's List. This could encourage people to find at least 1 new friend who is into housing and keep them on their friend's list. It could also encourage someone who is not into housing and who does not even have a house to get at least one so that they can pay back the new friend and share the endeavor with them.

4 - Visit a house of a Guild Mate. Similar to above, it could encourage someone to get their first house and/or join at least one guild if they currently are not in one.

There are many examples. But I think if they do keep adding new endeavors that encourage people to try new things, it's not a bad thing, it could turn out to be another thing that person finds they actually like and may have another reason to play the game each day.

Kiralyn2000

Building and placing furniture seems like a straightforward one.


On the other hand, I literally have no idea how you "visit another player's house".

Danikat

zelaminator wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

I still think the system should stay as is.. they've made it this way, so that as man players as possible can do it

Endeavours for visiting other players houses, or even for placing items in your own house, would be accessible to more people than the ones which require specific DLCs or chapters, like digging up antiquities or killing NPCs with the Blade of Woe.

I think ZOS intended it to be possible for any player to be able to complete 3 endeavours a day, but they certainly haven't made a system where everyone in the game can complete every endeavour.

On which day has a person not been able to complete 3/5.? As far as I have seen, only player choices have been a hindrance so far.?

I think you misread my post.

I said ZOS intended for anyone to be able to complete any 3 endeavours, but that it's not possible for all players to complete all of them because some require DLC or chapters, so some players will have fewer choices (or no choice, because there's only 3 they can do). There's been quite a few topics on the forum complaining about that (and about the PvP ones):
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/578882/endeavor-locked-behind-dlc
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7309316
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/582033/craft-a-9-trait-set-item-as-an-endeavor
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/581840/elsweyr-event-endeavors-dlc-required
(These are just the first ones to come up in a search, there's been many more.)

SilverBride

Housing is a major part of ESO for a lot of players so it should be represented. Every other aspect of the game is so why is this widely used feature left out? The way it is now, not everyone is interested in every type of endeavor so how would adding this be any different?

VaranisArano

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Building and placing furniture seems like a straightforward one.


On the other hand, I literally have no idea how you "visit another player's house".

You know how you can travel to the nearest wayshrine using your friend or guildmate list? There should be an option for "Visit Primary Residence" as well.

gamergirldk

FluffWit wrote: »
It's a cool idea, obviously it would be difficult for the solo players who don't have guilds/ friends but so what? The game shouldn't be built around them.

What does the endeavour system have to do with group play?. I do all mine alone.

CSose

Please NO. No attention to anything to do with housing until performance issues are at least acknowledged. [snip]

[edited for baiting]

Nemeliom

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I’d like to see visiting other players houses added as an Endeavor. I’m really into housing, but in my one brief experience in a housing guild I was treated horribly as a new guildie and left. It left a bad taste in my mouth and I am very reluctant to join another.

I admit I don’t visit other players houses but rarely, and I’m pretty sure no one visits mine. I put a lot of effort into it, it would be nice if someone saw it.

I don’t know if it would just be any player house or if it could be a list of curated houses that were collected by ZOS as great examples of housing design and decoration.

I just want to throw this idea out there for discussion and hopefully a future implementation.

This is actually a good idea. I pay no attention at all to housing because it makes no real difference. This could make it interest ing.

whitecrow

VaranisArano wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Building and placing furniture seems like a straightforward one.


On the other hand, I literally have no idea how you "visit another player's house".

You know how you can travel to the nearest wayshrine using your friend or guildmate list? There should be an option for "Visit Primary Residence" as well.

There is! I use it all the time.

Lady_Galadhiel

CSose wrote: »

Please NO. No attention to anything to do with housing until performance issues are at least acknowledged. [snip]

But it is already a part of the game and a big one,as @SilverBride already said it should be represented and it is easy and even free for everyone as you can get free inn rooms.

Housing as nothing to do with performance issues,all houses have their own instance and therefor nothing to do with the rest.

SilverBride

CSose wrote: »

Please NO. No attention to anything to do with housing until performance issues are at least acknowledged. [snip]

Housing is playing the game as much as any other aspect of ESO. It may not be for everyone, but neither are dungeons and trials and PvP.

Olauron

This is a good idea to have visiting other players houses added as an endeavor. For those who don't have friends or guilds it is not very different from "duel with one player", as if you don't have anyone to duel, you ask. Same here, just ask in a hub.

SilverBride wrote: »

CSose wrote: »

Please NO. No attention to anything to do with housing until performance issues are at least acknowledged. [snip]

Housing is playing the game as much as any other aspect of ESO. It may not be for everyone, but neither are dungeons and trials and PvP.

So much this.

Kiralyn2000

VaranisArano wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Building and placing furniture seems like a straightforward one.


On the other hand, I literally have no idea how you "visit another player's house".

You know how you can travel to the nearest wayshrine using your friend or guildmate list? There should be an option for "Visit Primary Residence" as well.

Ah, that would explain it. Both of those lists are empty for me.


Thanks for the info!

Amottica

I would suggest visiting another player's home part of an endeavor would be very restrictive. One would have to find a player whose home they can visit which is not a given. I only allow a small group of players permission to entire my home. When accidentally choosing to travel to someone's home instead of inviting them to the group I received a denial.

I think it should remain actual in-game activities as we have already seen.

Lady_Galadhiel

Amottica wrote: »

I would suggest visiting another player's home part of an endeavor would be very restrictive. One would have to find a player whose home they can visit which is not a given. I only allow a small group of players permission to entire my home. When accidentally choosing to travel to someone's home instead of inviting them to the group I received a denial.

I think it should remain actual in-game activities as we have already seen.

I was the same when I started housing,I only gave access to small amount of people to be able to visit my homes.
Once I found out i can take of any permission to turn on/off stuff or interact with anything I did open my homes for everyone.
I see no harm in people visiting my houses as long as they cant mess up anything.
All homes are set by default to no permission so people who dont know about dont have to worry because no one can enter their homes if they dont manually set it to open to public.
Housing is part of the game and as such it should be included in the seals system,after all it could be an quick and easy activity such as ''visit a players home'' basically just porting to someones open home and done.

pdblake

It doesn't really float my boat but there'll still be four others to do so fine by me.

Amottica

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

I would suggest visiting another player's home part of an endeavor would be very restrictive. One would have to find a player whose home they can visit which is not a given. I only allow a small group of players permission to entire my home. When accidentally choosing to travel to someone's home instead of inviting them to the group I received a denial.

I think it should remain actual in-game activities as we have already seen.

Housing is part of the game and as such it should be included in the seals system,after all it could be an quick and easy activity such as ''visit a players home'' basically just porting to someones open home and done.

Housing is part of the game, but not really part of the gameplay itself unless we very loosely define that.

And just had a thought. Nothing of the endeavors we have seen increases server load as they are already part of what players regularly do daily and most of them are not forcing an instance to open for one player. Significantly Increasing the number of players traveling to homes would create more server load and open instances that were not already open.

Additionally, the game already has to track when we harvest a node, kill a mob, do damage, or clear a dungeon. Likely it is not telling the difference between traveling to your home or someone else's for the traveling itself. That seems very unnecessary but would be a required addition to make this an endeavor.