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  • zaria
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    preevious wrote: »
    fizl101 wrote: »
    Couldyou imagine Craglorn - LF for magcro/magblade for <insert trial of choice> must be on PC and have <insert addin of choice>

    My poor stamplar main on PS will be even lower in the list of characters wanted for a trial

    Is this a normal console practice to ask for a specific class for crag pugs?

    It would depend where, I suppose.

    On PC EU, they don't ask for specific classes for vet-pug. Only for the achievement.
    Same, never heard anybody ask for classes but achievements are common for vet dlc trials.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • CaptainVenom
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    Depends
    Only if console players get access to addons. Otherwise they would have a huge disadvantage in comparison to PC.
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    Magicka/Damage Sorcerer - PC - NA - DC
  • Kalik_Gold
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    Console to Console (Playstation to Xbox) yes.

    PC and addons, No. Unless you create a server (or UI lock) where it runs exactly like console with no addons.
    Main Character:
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP Pure-class:
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: Subclassed or Specialty
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer (Tank)
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer (Healer)
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
    Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist /Sorcerer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden (Ice-Theme)

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Redguard** Dragonknight (Raid Damage) --- Name change needed

    PvE: Specialty
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Sorcerer (Dungeon Damage)
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (Arenas)
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)

    Leveling...
    Styx of Akatosh a Goblin*** Arcanist --- Race change needed
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Lycan Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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    Passives of another race used:
    *Breton
    **Imperial
    ***Argonian




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
    PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant
  • gronoxvx
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    They cant even get things right like performance etc on each individual platform so crossplay would just be an absolute dumpster fire.

    Just allow account transfers.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    Console to console fine - we already have too many people on PC. The servers would implode.
  • svendf
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    I hope it´s ok to add this link if not dear mods please rremove.

    This is not an add for other games, but an addition to topic about crossplay

    https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-08-17-epic-games-why-cross-play-matters
  • Kredo
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    because performance isn't already bad enough right
  • Roztlin45
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    Enable Crossplay
    Could you not hot-swap between console and PC if crossplay were enabled? This would not only fix the account transfer issue but would also no anchor you to a PC when away from home.
  • starkerealm
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    fizl101 wrote: »
    fizl101 wrote: »
    Couldyou imagine Craglorn - LF for magcro/magblade for <insert trial of choice> must be on PC and have <insert addin of choice>

    My poor stamplar main on PS will be even lower in the list of characters wanted for a trial

    Is this a normal console practice to ask for a specific class for crag pugs?

    Yes, especially for vet, or sometimes generic for mag DD

    Not so much on PC. We're more interested in roles, "DPS, Heals, Tanks," and you rarely see calls demanding an addon on PC. It's not even a, "well most people are running one anyway." You're expected to know the content, but, whether you know that by rote or by Code's Combat Alerts, is entirely on you.

    I, legit, cannot remember the last time I saw someone specify, "running an addon," in requirements on a Crag PUG. That's usually something you'd see in a guild when they're progging a trial. Not something you'd see in PUGs.
  • Bucky_13
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    Crossplay between PC and console is a bad idea for all the reasons already mentioned.

    Crossplay between xbox & ps do seem like a better idea however.
  • LyricsEcho
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    Depends
    I would say yes to this but the amount of unfixed bugs that still plague the game as of today and the lack of responsibility zos has taken to keeping a tidy mega server on every platform I would say no. I'm disappointed that I can't have my special one join me from his Playstation but I am not going to hold my breath for cross play to be supported. I hope maybe someday I'm wrong but we willnever see cross play with this game.
  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    Just a little humor to add to the cross play debate.
    Laugh and enjoy. Huzzah!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mjz6j_CUzA
    Drakon Koryn~Oryndill, Rogue~Mage,- CP ~Doesn't matter any more
    NA / PC Beta Member since Nov 2013
    GM~Conclave-of-Shadows, EP Social Guild, ~Proud member of: The Wandering Merchants, Phoenix Rising, Imperial Trade Union & Celestials of Nirn
    Sister Guilds with: Coroner's Report, Children of Skyrim, Sunshine Daydream, Tamriel Fisheries, Knights Arcanum and more
    "Not All Who Wander are Lost"
    #MOREHOUSINGSLOTS
    “When the people that can make the company more successful are sales and marketing people, they end up running the companies. The product people get driven out of the decision making forums, and the companies forget what it means to make great products.”

    _Steve Jobs (The Lost Interview)
  • Klad
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    God no... listening to those guys makes me lose all hope in humanity.
  • Plasma_Elf
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    Depends
    If it makes lag in pvp worse, no.
  • JKorr
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    svendf wrote: »
    In the long term ZOS have to enable crossplay just to survive no way around it. It can be between PS ans Xbox or all three platforms, the step have to be taken.

    Eventhough we play the same title on different platforms (PS/Xbox and PC), we don´t play the same game.

    A good question would be. Why is crossplay so important for some titles/devteams ?

    We don't play the same game.

    Why should the pc version be throttled back because consoles still can't quite come up to the same level as a pc? If I wanted fewer options, lower graphics, and stuff I'd have bought a console in the first place.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    No thanks because updates don’t release together and it seems ZOS uses PC as beta test
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • Eirikir
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    Enable Crossplay
    I would be happy just to have system migration from console to PC.
    Server: PS4-NA
    PSN: Eirikir
    Name: Eirikir "Erik" Kololf
    Alliance: Ebonheart Pact
    Race: Nord (Lycanthrope)
    Class: Dragonknight (Range DPS)
    Playstyle: Crafter, PVE, PVP, Roleplayer
  • Amottica
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    The first reason this would not be good is PC has addons and the consoles do not. The second is Cyrdodiil population is not a reason or justification since the campaigns have a pop cap. There will always be more campaign space than we need so there will always be busy campaigns and ones less busy.

    Unless the console servers are dying I am not sure how they can feel empty. PC does not.
  • Hapexamendios
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    No, not a good idea. Between consoles is fine.
  • Pauwer
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    Enable Crossplay
    Indigogo wrote: »
    Nope, absolutely do not want to play with or against PC players with add ons. The difference is too huge.

    I don't know, i also pvp on pc without any add-ons and use controller and do ok in there, it's not that different.
  • Lucozade85
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    No to cross play, yes to cross save
  • rpa
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    Depends
    If it can be done without game economy mess, lowering the performance ceiling and nerfing PC addons.
    I don't think it is possible.
  • Alucardo
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    What's this addon argument. I've played without addons for years and I don't feel gimped at all. After not using them for so long you learn how to play the game for yourself.
    Am I missing something.
  • AlnilamE
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    Lucozade85 wrote: »
    No to cross play, yes to cross save

    What's the difference? And how would this even work?
    The Moot Councillor
  • Odovacar
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    Ugh, how about nah...
  • Tornaad
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    I think the EU server has enough problems or at least enough people complaining about the problems. We don't need to do something that will likely cause more problems.
  • svendf
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    JKorr wrote: »
    svendf wrote: »
    In the long term ZOS have to enable crossplay just to survive no way around it. It can be between PS ans Xbox or all three platforms, the step have to be taken.

    Eventhough we play the same title on different platforms (PS/Xbox and PC), we don´t play the same game.

    A good question would be. Why is crossplay so important for some titles/devteams ?

    We don't play the same game.

    Why should the pc version be throttled back because consoles still can't quite come up to the same level as a pc? If I wanted fewer options, lower graphics, and stuff I'd have bought a console in the first place.

    That´s an opinion I can take in and understand. As a former PC player I had that view.

    But here is a question. Isn´t graphics something that can be handled on client side ? Meaning as a PC player you will still have your settings.
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    Lucozade85 wrote: »
    No to cross play, yes to cross save

    What's the difference? And how would this even work?

    Destiny2 as that if im not mistaken
    If you log in in any platform you will have the same progress, same character, same everything
    So you could link a ps, xbox and the pc equivalent to your eso account (kind of like twitch link for drops) and no matter on what you log on you would get the same character list
  • YandereGirlfriend
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    Something needs to be done for console players (and I say this as a relatively privileged PC player) - especially Playstation players who are potentially looking at a very grim future with their main console competitor now in charge of the game.

    The lack of cross-play and, especially, account transfer is not a technical problem - it's a business decision, pure and simple.

    Different stakeholders can each be blocking it from happening for their own specific reasons as well (e.g. Sony not wanting to lose their existing Playstation players, Microsoft having an interest in players re-buying the game and expansions upon switching, etc.), which makes it difficult to properly assess blame.

    But, best believe, if the relevant stakeholders wanted to make it happen - it would happen. That it is not happening speaks louder than any words.
  • El_Borracho
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    Don't enable Crossplay
    Console players can't compete with PC, especially in PVP. If they could make my account transferrable from PS4 to PC I just might. But at this point that would be years of building characters that I am not willing to blow up.
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