Do you like sets that proc when you heavy attack?

francesinhalover

There's many good sets i just don't use like the one currently on the public server "Thunder Caller" , because i don't like doing heavy attacks and slowing down my rotations.
Do you guys use heavy attack proc sets or just prefer light attack proc sets?

https://eso-sets.com/set/storm-master like storm master, wouldn't it be better if it was light attacks?

Should some heavy attack proc sets be reworked in to light attack?

I just wish i could use stormmaster or thunder set in the future but the heavy attack need kills it for me :c

Sedare38

I prefer having to use skills to proc a sets effect.

Heavy attacks can be clunky, and you really have to set up for it in terms of being able to actually hit the person, but I don't mind it too much. I have a double heavy attack proc set up for a gank build. It's difficult at times as I'm not always certain they go off.

SirAndy

All depends on the build.

One of my mains is a heavy attack Pet Sorc build that plays fluently once you get used to the rotation.

kojou

I prefer having to use skills to proc a sets effect.

I had a Sorc build with a rotation that had 2 heavy attacks in it, and it was okish to play...

I personally don't like it because I like to feel like I am doing something. Light Attack weaving for me is much more satisfying and I set up my character's sustain so that heavy attacks are very rarely needed because of that even if it is at the cost of a little damage.

For me any set that requires a heavy attack is a non-starter.

Jierdanit

I prefer not having proc sets at all

Narvuntien

I prefer having to use skills to proc a sets effect.

Only on a healer. Otherwise, I wont be heavy attacking all that much.

tonyblack

I prefer having to use skills to proc a sets effect.

Set focused on heavy attack means it’s yet another unfun set that will be thrown on support, in case it’s good (PvE) or if it deals a lot of damage it will end up on burst oriented stam builds, with recent examples of deadland assassin and vateshran 2h (PvP), or in case it’s bad nobody will mention it ever again. Same would happen to new light proc set and it’s ironic to read about short TTK in combat preview, yet discover set like that in pts patch notes. But overall heavy attacks in this game frustrating, not fun and way too niche to use so I hope there won’t be much sets designed around them in the future.

YandereGirlfriend

I prefer having to use skills to proc a sets effect.

I dislike Heavy Attacks in every context, everywhere.

francesinhalover

I prefer having to do light attack to proc a sets effect.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I dislike Heavy Attacks in every context, everywhere.

omg, same... they just slow combat so much, if at least they did more dmg...

Stx

I prefer having to use skills to proc a sets effect.

For PvE it really doesn't matter but for PvP full heavy attacks are difficult to land.

Alucardo

Depends if it requires a fully charged heavy or heavy. If it's just "heavy" generally that means you can perform a medium and it will still proc. Fully charged heavy attacks are near impossible to pull off if your target actually has reflexes and awareness. Heck, even some NPCs will dodge them xD

Spurius_Lucilius

I prefer having to use skills to proc a sets effect.

I think the new COR set (the one that reduce armor when using buff skills) has a interesting proc condition, and I would like to see more sets like this.

lolo_01b16_ESO

I prefer having to use skills to proc a sets effect.

Yeah, it's somewhat anoying that so many new healer sets require heavy attacks. Especially sets like RO, that require 2 fully charged heavy attacks to apply the buff to everyone.
Honestly I'm not sure which skills would make for a good proc condition, but there has to be some way to make it more interessting than spending 20% of the fight channeling heavy attacks.

francesinhalover

I prefer having to do light attack to proc a sets effect.

Spurius_Lucilius wrote: »

I think the new COR set (the one that reduce armor when using buff skills) has a interesting proc condition, and I would like to see more sets like this.

That's awesome, Anything but heavy attacks

EF321

Sentry (pvp set) has pretty unique proc condition that is "begin crouching", you can proc it whenever you want - while channeling dizzy swings, falling off a cliff, etc... it does not use up your GCD. Pretty cool.

Or at least they can change those heavy attack sets to "begin channeling heavy attack", so you don't actually have to commit.

Rex-Umbra

I prefer having to use skills to proc a sets effect.

Never bothered to grind any heavy attack proc sets like who the hell in PvP is going to stand still so i can heavy attack them.

DreadDaedroth

Nope.
That mindset of heavy attack proc ruined sets like Maarselok.
Bring back bash proc Maarselok.

ealdwin

I don't mind them. Heavy Attack builds might not be for everyone, but I appreciate that the option at least exists for those who want to use them or those just getting tired of the usual build setup.

francesinhalover

I prefer having to do light attack to proc a sets effect.

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Never bothered to grind any heavy attack proc sets like who the hell in PvP is going to stand still so i can heavy attack them.

True people move too much in pvp...

Fennwitty

I prefer having to use skills to proc a sets effect.

I would bend over backward twice to not have to ever do a heavy attack.

I don't quite understand what ZoS seems to be pushing -- like they want heavy attacks to be cool now? Is this supposed to counteract light attack weaving as the preferred method?

Heavy attacks just ... hang. They feel like they take forever.

stefj68

I prefer having to do light attack to proc a sets effect.

i hate heavy attacks in general

i do some on my healers
or on my werewolf

im tired of new sets working with heavy attacks mechanics

UntilValhalla13

Heavy attacks are the worst. They're so slow and clunky. I really wish they'd stop trying to force them on us. Nobody wants to use heavy attack sets.

L_Nici

I prefer having to do heavy attack to proc a sets effect.

I like Heavy attack ones as long as its not specifically stated as "fully charged" because if it just says heavy attack it Procs of everything more than a Light attack.
Also you have to invest time in them then. If you would proc everything of light attacks you could weave into procs, and that would be really unhealthy.

Septimus_Magna

I prefer having to do light attack to proc a sets effect.

It really depends on what effect you're proccing, in most cases I prefer things to proc of light attacks because you always do them in between skills during a dps rotation. But you can buff up without proccing the effect and wasting seconds while not engaging. I never like sets for DDs that require a fully charged heavy attack because you basically have to pause your rotation to get the proc, by pausing you lose dps so its not a good option.

In my opinion a proc set for a DD is considered viable if you can proc it by doing your dps rotation. Sometimes there are requirements like dot, direct,crit or even specif elemental dmg which is fine because it doenst cause any interruptions.

There are exceptions ofc, as tank/healer you heavy attack on a regular basis so you do get more control over when you want to proc the effect. For example, a set that reducing incoming damage for 10s after a heavy attack with a 30s cooldown means you can heavy attack when you expect high incoming damage. In this case I would prefer the control of a heavy attack of the ease of proc with a light attack or skill.

This is strictly from a PVE perspective, in PVP things a different because you dont really have a rotation but more a burst combo in which heavy attacks can be strong.

francesinhalover

I prefer having to do light attack to proc a sets effect.

UntilValhalla13 wrote: »

Heavy attacks are the worst. They're so slow and clunky. I really wish they'd stop trying to force them on us. Nobody wants to use heavy attack sets.

If at least they did double the light attack damage.

but yeahhh i agree!!!!

Dagoth_Rac

It depends. I think lightning heavy attacks are one of the coolest things in the game. But fire heavy attacks? Absolutely awful. Probably the least fun thing in the game. Maybe more sets should be, "when you do a light or heavy attack," and leave it up to player to decide how they want to proc it.

Also that Thunder Caller set looks like, "Ilambris, but you need 5 pieces."

Dragonredux

Lightning Staves are what makes heavy attacks builds fun because of the channel from it. Only problem is there's only a few sets that actually buffs it's damage. Which in my opinion, deters me from using some of the newer heavy attacks sets. Especially now since we got this god awful proc set scaling.

Heavy attacks on every other weapon (except resto) feels awful to use and really bad damage wise.

Vevvev

Depends on the heavy attack, but for most weapons (Basically anything that isn't a Lightning or Restoration staff) they're pretty bad. Werewolves at least get faster heavy attacks, but for the most part I avoid heavy attacks like the plague unless I really need them. Only reason on my magDK I run Molten Armaments is to get a little bit more damage if I heavy attack with my resto staff or wanna punch a hole in that one mage that stands up on the tower with my flame staff. Otherwise, I'd probably go Igneous Weapons or Degeneration instead for my source of Major Sorcery.

starkerealm

Depends what the proc is doing. Some procs are really nice on a heavy, because you have a lot of control over when they'll land. Others, (thinking the vMA shield) would be really nice on activation, but I understand why it's a HA. Then you have procs that shouldn't be on a heavy ever. So... It depends.

Jaimeh

I prefer having to do light attack to proc a sets effect.

No, I dislike heavy attacking, or anything that delays fast-paced combat. For me, heavy attacking is actually worse on the fingers. That's why I avoid effects that have a heavy attack condition attached to them, at least for dps toons.

francesinhalover

I prefer having to do light attack to proc a sets effect.

Jaimeh wrote: »

No, I dislike heavy attacking, or anything that delays fast-paced combat. For me, heavy attacking is actually worse on the fingers. That's why I avoid effects that have a heavy attack condition attached to them, at least for dps toons.

i agree so much